|
Welcome to the YorkieTalk.com Forums Community - the community for Yorkshire Terriers. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be able to chat with over 35,000 YorkieTalk members, read over 2,000,000 posted discussions, and view more than 15,000 Yorkie photos in the YorkieTalk Photo Gallery after you register. We would love to have you as a member! Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please click here to contact us. |
|
| LinkBack | Thread Tools |
03-13-2016, 03:23 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Brandenburg, KY
Posts: 13
| Cesar dog food I sent this as a complaint on Cesar's corporate site, but just thought I would post here as well to bring awareness. I hope my story will help prevent this happening to another dog! "Around Christmas, we acquired a new yorkie. She had been in the family but then came to live with us. We had trouble getting her to eat dry dog food since she was so spoiled before with human food. So, we regularly mixed a tablespoon or 2 of Cesar food in with her dry food to get her to eat it. She has been fed like this for over 2 months. Recently, we ran out of Cesar food and it was about 2 weeks before we went and got more (she was eating the dry food better though so we weren't worried). Even though she really doesn't need the wet food mixed in anymore, we bought more anyway and continued mixing it in like we had before. She had been puking a lot when we first got her, but we just thought her stomach may have been adjusting to having real dog food as opposed to human food. 90% of the time the puke was a yellow acid type liquid. Only rarely were there chunks of food in it. Well we didn't quite notice at first, but now that she's had the Cesar food again for a couple days (and has started getting really sick again), we now notice that when we were out of your food for almost 2 weeks, she was not sick even once. Now she's been eating that food again for 2 days and has already puked 7 times today, as well as had 2 poops today that were half diarrhea and a little blood. Also, her last puke just had blood in it too which has never happened! The puking and diarrhea, along with finding blood in both, makes me extremely worried. If we hadn't been out of your food for that 2 weeks, we would have just thought she's sick for some unknown reason, which is kind of what we've thought since we got her around Christmas. Now, it is plain as day what is making her so sick. I am glad we made the connection before it did worse damage to her or killed her, but I seriously suggest looking into what you're putting in this dog food. I feel horrible that we've been feeding her this for over 2 months now and wonder about the damage it has done to her. This food is not healthy at all!" I also just want to add, I knew this was a low quality food, but since we were just using it for the "wetness" and not her main nutrition source, I wasn't worried. I never expected it to have such serious effects like this though. The dry food we were getting her to eat is a 5 star dog food (Blue Buffalo Wilderness) so I knew she was getting good nutrition. |
Welcome Guest! | |
03-13-2016, 03:59 PM | #2 |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
Posts: 27,451
| I have heard of many pups getting sick from Blue Buffalo. If you search on this site, you can find more information. I just did a quick search. Here is a thread that you might find enlightening: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...e-buffalo.html
__________________ |
03-13-2016, 04:35 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Brandenburg, KY
Posts: 13
| I have heard of that but the recall from Blue Buffalo (which was too high of levels of Vitamin D) was from 2010 and it was the Blue Buffalo Wilderness Chicken recipe. We feed our dogs the Grain-Free Wilderness Red Meat. Over the past few years, the main complaints from pet store clerks say that people who returned Blue Buffalo is mainly either because of the grains were making their dog sick, or their dog didn't like the taste. Buying grain-free, I'm not worried about that. Lastly, the Blue Buffalo food has been constant ever since the moment we got the Yorkie around Christmas. The 2 weeks she did not have the Cesar food was when she wasn't sick even once. Just the past few days, she has got really sick again, and she also just started eating the Cesar food again. Also, she is the only one sick. My other 2 dogs have not had the sickness that she has, but they also don't get the Cesar food. It just makes sense. I thank you for your input but I'm 100% positive that the problems we're experiencing with her are not caused by the Blue Buffalo grain-free food. |
03-13-2016, 06:11 PM | #4 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
| My cousin, who can not afford RC, has been feeding her 3 Chihuahuas and the retired little male yorkie I let her have, Cesars for going on 12 years now....they love the food, they are healthy as horses, their coats are shiny and they never have vomiting or diarrhea! Now, I do not feed mine Cesars, but if I was short on money, and I had seniors that were eating soft food, I think I would feel comfortable feeding this brand.....her dogs have certainly done fabulously on it, even years ago when she was breeding her Chihuahuas, she fed them Cesars.....I have never seen a recall on Cesars, I have seen recalls on the BB....judging from the completely different response in your dogs and other dogs to Cesars, I am thinking perhaps there is something your particular dogs do not tolerate in the dog food, that does not adversely affect others, rather than strictly an issue with the dog food. Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 03-13-2016 at 06:12 PM. |
03-15-2016, 02:11 PM | #5 | |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Brandenburg, KY
Posts: 13
| Quote:
Like I said, we were only using it for the wetness so I wasn't concerned about making sure that our dog got actual nutrition from it, since the nutrition aspect was filled from the BB food, but to see how sick it has made her is frightening. For 79 cents each for those little tiny packs, they really should not be so low of quality as they are. By low quality, I'm referring to not only my own opinion, but all the research that is out there proving it is a one star food. Your cousin's dogs may not be getting sick from it, but I can guarantee there is very little actual nutrition they are getting from Cesar. They may "love it," but kids like McDonalds too.. | |
03-15-2016, 03:48 PM | #6 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
| Water works very well for wetness....a little warm water is great! Of course, those poor people that have been drinking toxic water for the last two years, (in ?? Michigan, I think ??) may want to re think that for wetting, unless they have started buying bottled!! My cousins dogs have done just fine on Cesars for many years, so I am sure she will continue to feed it. I do not judge a food by number of stars some company has stuck on it, all I can do is point out a cause/effect ratio to her....and I cant argue with success for her!!!. I am sure if any of her dogs start staggering and falling over with a glassy eyed stare, or if they die young from organ failure.....ooops! they are already past THAT category, all of them being over 14 years old......she will probably continue to feed it, and I have no argument for her! Her dogs love it, they are healthy, they have lived a long time with no issues....and I MUST say, for WHATEVER reason, her dogs do not have lousy teeth....hard to argue with those results! If they were not tolerating the food, like yours apparently do not, I am sure there would be a change made, but I can not argue with her success, so I dont. You are right....her dogs are very healthy and have no issues with their stomachs! As far as "nutritional benefits", usually, it has been MY experience, poor nutritional intake is manifested in many ways, and severe nutritional depletion does not manifest itself in healthy appearing dogs! They will go off food, they will get skin conditions, itching, hair falling, then it goes into organ failures, etc...... poor nutrition/food intolerance causes the very first signs of trouble you will observe in dogs, as it has done with yours. You certainly can not continue to feed your dogs food they are not able to tolerate....thank goodness, they displayed signs and symptoms of their problem and you were able to narrow it down to cause/action. That food may not be a "5 star" rating on "somebodys" list, but her dogs tolerate it, as do many, many others, and are healthy eating it! Cant argue with results/success! If anyone is feeding ANY dog food, that causes their dogs to puke bloody vomit or have bloody stools, probably a great idea to stop feeding it, regardless of where it is positioned on some dog food list! Look at your dog...poor nutrition is quickly manifested in the way the dog looks, as well as behavior...vomiting, apathy, poor coat growth, etc.... You did well to go back off the food as there was something in it your dogs were not tolerating! |
03-15-2016, 04:41 PM | #7 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
| I did go back to recalls, and found there have been NO recalls for Cesars, between 2009-2016.....I did not see, but did not dig with determined vigor, looking for recalls before 2009, but I just did not find any.... ........there have been several for your brand...those pesky little "booster balls" that were infused into the food causing toxic levels of bad stuff in dogs, making some dogs terminally ill........ Please tell me where you found "many" recalls for Cesars so I can tell my cousin....so far, I have NOTHING to offer her as proof that the food is unhealthy....now that dentist did come up with his own little rating, but there have been no recalls I could find that indicate a nutritional issue with that food..... It is like ALL dog food....some dogs do not tolerate some dog food....so dont feed it to the dog that can not tolerate it! I can not tolerate eating apples.....HUGE gastric pains, etc....but that does not make all apples bad for everyone....just an issue with me! I know alot of seniors that feed their dogs this food, because they can afford to feed it.....I do not want these seniors to think they are killing their pets by feeding this food....I can find NO recalls, seniors can afford to feed it, and until I see that there is a regular, documented pattern of illness following ingestion by a substantial number of pets, attributed to this food, I have to defend it for the people that are only able to afford this food, especially seniors that feed this. If there is no documented evidence that this is a poor quality food, backed by research and supported by recalls, while I may not feed it to my dogs for whatever reasons, it cant be condemned for use by others whose pets DO tolerate it and love it. |
03-15-2016, 04:50 PM | #8 |
YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Idaho
Posts: 275
| I'd never feed it, it's poor quality, but I also would never feed blue buffalo- it's got a nasty history. I personally am a dog food snob. I feed Acana. For wet, when I desire to add it, I use earthborn holistics or plain pumpkin. All I can say is do your research on any food you feed. Make sure you know what you put into your little one and that you are comfortable with it.
__________________ Kaira, Alli, and Douglas |
03-15-2016, 04:55 PM | #9 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
| All I was able to find: Company Recalls Cesar Dog Food Review December 12, 2014.....There are no listings of FDA recalls or any voluntary recalls for Cesar products that we could find at the time of this review. (This period of time went from 2009-2014) ********************************************* October 8, 2010. The Blue Buffalo Company of Wilton, Connecticut has announced a dog food recall of certain batches of some of its popular products due to potentially toxic levels of vitamin D. Good luck with whatever you select for your baby and any food issues she is experiencing....we are their first line of defense, and if we dont do the best we can for them, who will? Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 03-15-2016 at 04:57 PM. |
03-15-2016, 06:14 PM | #10 | |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
Posts: 27,451
| Quote:
I don't trust his reviews at all! IMO it is more important WHO puts the food in the bags and cans that what they put in. Not to say there is no validity to looking at ingredients, but quality control is MOST important. When I want to know about dog food, I reach out to vet nutritionists who are more qualifed...much more so that than anyone imo. www.petdiets.com is one of them.
__________________ | |
03-15-2016, 07:25 PM | #11 | |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
| Quote:
| |
Bookmarks |
|
|
| |
|
|
SHOP NOW: Amazon :: eBay :: Buy.com :: Newegg :: PetStore :: Petco :: PetSmart