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09-28-2015, 09:27 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New York
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| Have you ever had a bad experience w/ raw food? Anyone you know? I am super pro raw food in theory (specifically primal), but I feed canned because that's what my dog seems to like best and I am afraid of food poisoning/ illness with raw. But when I look at the ingredients of the primal raw food, it just seems so, so far superior to the canned stuff I feed (different brands, ranging from Nulo to Weruva to Party Animal to Fromm. No brand has the same kind of ingredients I have found in primal raw). I have still have two bags of raw food in my freezer, and am tempted to try again to see if Moxie likes them more this time, but what's stopping me is the fear that she might get sick (she never did before). I was just wonder, in an informal poll, have you ever had a bad experience with raw? I can google articles myself and don't need any links, studies, articles, debates, thanks, just wondering what your personal experiences have been? Thank you |
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09-29-2015, 03:18 AM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I've been feeding raw (Primal or NV) for 7 straight years now to all of my dogs (4 now) and have never, ever had a single one get sick from it and I do nothing special to sanitize or anything like that. I LOVE it! I love how fresh it is and that it's as natural as possible. I think dogs can do well on many different types of diets though...kibble, canned, home cooked, refrigerated pet food (like Fresh Pet or whatevs) etc...
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09-29-2015, 02:35 PM | #3 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| I almost killed an entire litter, feeding raw ground meat to puppies that were just weaning to food. They LOVED it, and I thought I was really doing a great job! NOPE! Puppies that young do not have the intestinal fortitude to ward off the natural bacteria in raw meat, and my ignorance almost cost those babies their little lives. Very expensive lesson learned....Raw meat in older dogs is OK, but apparently NOT in puppies. |
10-01-2015, 01:53 PM | #4 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: North Carolina
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| I know many breeders that feed their dogs/litters from birth up and have never had a problem. It HAS to be a balanced diet though with the proper percentages of bone, organs, meat, etc... I feed RAW but I feed a premade RAW and even with that you need to make sure the RAW is a balance diet that does not need any supplementing. |
10-01-2015, 04:16 PM | #5 | |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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10-01-2015, 06:35 PM | #6 |
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| Nope, never a problem. I feed my ferrets a fully raw diet. They have a lovely (read: nasty) tendency to stash meats until they turn into "jerky" and then eat them anyway. Carnivores have incredible guts meant to eat some seriously raunchy stuff and a normal raw diet should cause no issues. Yorkiemom- I think something else may have gone on. I've never heard of that before, ever. |
10-01-2015, 06:59 PM | #7 |
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| My three eat mostly Primal with a raw chicken wing every other day or so for their teeth. Never had a problem. They are healthy, have great coats, and their teeth are pearly white. My littlest one hasn't had a dental in a few years and her teeth do not have a spec of tartar. Diana |
10-01-2015, 08:25 PM | #8 | |
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All of you with pups and ferrets that are doing fine on raw diets, how OLD are these dogs/animals? Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 10-01-2015 at 08:27 PM. | |
10-02-2015, 04:19 AM | #9 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | The youngest one I started on raw was Pfeiffer, who started when she was 14 weeks old. She came to me on kibble, and after 2 weeks being home with us I started to switch her over to raw. So, she was my youngest...
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10-02-2015, 04:33 PM | #10 |
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| My pets are rescues, so I've never had the chance to start a tiny pup, but many ferrets start right off the teat. Perhaps it was because it is chicken, instead of a different meat. The younger of the two was 6 months when he started eating raw. Most of my raw experience is ferrets, for sure- it's impractical to feed my dogs raw (I have a service dog) but I feed supplemental stella and chewies patties as treats. |
10-02-2015, 04:43 PM | #11 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| All over 12 weeks old, which is fine, from what experienced long time breeders told me! But at 4 weeks old, their tiny little "new born guts" have not built up the flora to digest raw chicken. With age, it is not a problem. Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 10-02-2015 at 04:45 PM. |
10-03-2015, 02:12 PM | #12 |
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| I had a neighbour's Shih Tzu who fell seriously ill at 2 years old when the owner tried her on raw. I can't remember the brand she told me but it was those raw patties that you buy at the pet store. The dog ended up at the ER for about a week fighting some sort of infection. I couldn't really make out what she was telling me as she was crying at the same time as they did not know if the dog will make it at the time but the dog did survive. After that, she never attempted feeding her dog raw again. I have a friend who worked as a vet tech as well and I hear horror stories from her about dogs coming in sick from eating a raw diet. I think it really depends on the dog. If the dog is 100% healthy I think it'd be fine. I had mine on raw as well a few years back but he did not do well on it. His poop was never normal and it always had a mucusy coating to it just like when they had worms etc kind of look so I stopped. I don't think I'd try feeding raw again. Mine is on prescription diet now after a bad bout of pancreatitis because of high fat food and I supplement with some steamed skinless boneless chicken breast and raw veg & fruit juice with pulp strained off. He has been doing well on it so I think it really depends on the individual dog.
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10-05-2015, 05:38 PM | #13 |
Don't Litter Spay&Neuter Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal
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| Mine are on 100% premade raw diet, mostly Primal. Occasionally Stella & Chewy's freeze dried. They never got sick from eating raw food...I've even given them pieces of raw chicken breast & ground turkey & they did well. I saw a documentary about chicken & salmonella & they said supermarket chicken & turkey have the most bacteria, esp when cut up ...but they never got sick. I've read that a dog's digestive tract is short (shorter than us humans) & also acidic, so there's little to no chance of them getting sick since the raw meat will pass quickly. I've been very lucky to find a new vet here that supports raw feeding. He described that a dog sick w/salmonella will get very sick, lethargic & will lose their appetite. He doesn't see dogs sickened by salmonella often.
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