Nexgard

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by 107barney

There's no way I'd use advantix ever. I have an epileptic dog in the house and I am quite sure his neurologist would know what is safest for him. i posted it for others who don't want to spend $25 a pill for a 10-Lb dog for Nexguard. I wouldn't find that to be worth the money at all when there are products that kill 90% of ticks that are safer for $14 for three months.

Advantix was the only thing working for ticks even then we were getting a few. I'm not saying you or your vet are wrong at all. I just have that old mind set from the bad collars that everyone drilled into everyone that were bad and I just don't know that it would work well in my situation. I feel nexguard it's the best and safest option for us and worth the money. I'm not downing what your using or what your vet is saying I'm just sharing my opinion and situation. Everyone's situation is different.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Advantix was the only thing working for ticks even then we were getting a few. I'm not saying you or your vet are wrong at all. I just have that old mind set from the bad collars that everyone drilled into everyone that were bad and I just don't know that it would work well in my situation. I feel nexguard it's the best and safest option for us and worth the money. I'm not downing what your using or what your vet is saying I'm just sharing my opinion and situation. Everyone's situation is different.

Yes, but, the old school opinion of collars being unsafe derives from chemicals in them, not the concept of a collar itself. In fact, permethrin is far more toxic than amitraz to mammals if you do your research. Most toxicity due to amitraz is due to misuse for example when a dog chews a collar which my dogs won't do.

I live in the northeast where the possibility of a tick borne illness is very high. It is for this reason that I want a very effective product that is the safest for my dogs specifically. I wouldn't consider Nexguard because it does not seem to repel ticks and they will usually attach before they are killed. I would rather not have ticks on the dogs at all but everyone has told me nothing is 100% effective. So I'll go with 90% and repelling ticks safely at a very affordable price. I just can't risk encephalitis from a tick borne infection in a dog already compromised as an epileptic or dogs that are elderly. If that means using a collar, then so be it. I'm also not a huge fan of new stuff -- people had high hopes for trifexxis and there were lots of issues supposedly. If it works for you, great, but I think people don't consider less expensive more effective options so that's why I posted on this thread.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Yes, but, the old school opinion of collars being unsafe derives from chemicals in them, not the concept of a collar itself. In fact, permethrin is far more toxic than amitraz to mammals if you do your research. Most toxicity due to amitraz is due to misuse for example when a dog chews a collar which my dogs won't do.

I live in the northeast where the possibility of a tick borne illness is very high. It is for this reason that I want a very effective product that is the safest for my dogs specifically. I wouldn't consider Nexguard because it does not seem to repel ticks and they will usually attach before they are killed. I would rather not have ticks on the dogs at all but everyone has told me nothing is 100% effective. So I'll go with 90% and repelling ticks safely at a very affordable price. I just can't risk encephalitis from a tick borne infection in a dog already compromised as an epileptic or dogs that are elderly. If that means using a collar, then so be it. I'm also not a huge fan of new stuff -- people had high hopes for trifexxis and there were lots of issues supposedly. If it works for you, great, but I think people don't consider less expensive more effective options so that's why I posted on this thread.

I totally understand. I personally found that things that say they repell ticks haven't. I got lucky because we moved, same area but different kind of land so it's not huge difference but less ticks. I am in Md which my vets swears is the tick capital of the world lol so we worry about ticks a lot too. In the end all of these chemicals end up in the blood stream wether pill, chew, topical or collar. I really talked at length with my vet about it before deciding. Im not generally a fan of new things either because it takes awhile for things to show up and get reported. My vet had been using it on her dogs since it came out and everyone who works at the office tried it because the first dose is free and then decided they liked it so they continued it. There was only one case of issues with one of her patients and that was a larger breed puppy that was tired and sleepy the day the dose was given to him. My vet also said out of all the dogs in the testing only a few had seizures and it was only dogs who had a history of them them but not all dogs that had a history of them. Obviously I would not use it if Callie had a seizure history not sure what I would use because I haven't been in that situation. I think we both do what is best for our dogs and love them very much

[Britster]

I looked into the collars but I thought they were uneffective unless worn ALL the time and I don't want to have a tick collar on him 24/7. Maybe it's different now. But for one I find them ugly (they'll clash with his stylish collars, COMEONGUYS ) and I'm not fully comfortable with them either. Now if it was the kind of thing that I could just put on him if I knew we were going to be in a heavily wooded area for a hike, for example, I would do it. But I read it doesn't work that way. The Seresto collars are made by Advantix, btw. And Nexgard is made by Frontline.

The price does suck on Nexgard... pretty bad. I was going to see if my vet would sell me ONE pill but they probably don't do that, I don't know, just to try it and see if it even works for us. We are going to FL next week where it's obviously warmer and I'd like to avoid fleas/ticks. So I was debating swinging by the vets on Monday and seeing what it costs or if I should just order Advantix from Chewy.com. Frontline doesn't do jack squat for us most of the time.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Britster

I looked into the collars but I thought they were uneffective unless worn ALL the time and I don't want to have a tick collar on him 24/7. Maybe it's different now. But for one I find them ugly (they'll clash with his stylish collars, COMEONGUYS ) and I'm not fully comfortable with them either. Now if it was the kind of thing that I could just put on him if I knew we were going to be in a heavily wooded area for a hike, for example, I would do it. But I read it doesn't work that way. The Seresto collars are made by Advantix, btw. And Nexgard is made by Frontline.

The price does suck on Nexgard... pretty bad. I was going to see if my vet would sell me ONE pill but they probably don't do that, I don't know, just to try it and see if it even works for us. We are going to FL next week where it's obviously warmer and I'd like to avoid fleas/ticks. So I was debating swinging by the vets on Monday and seeing what it costs or if I should just order Advantix from Chewy.com. Frontline doesn't do jack squat for us most of the time.

I'm using the collars this way (on and off) but we don't go into the woods and have specific advice from our vet for our situation. Nexguard and all the rest are 24/7 too floating in the bloodstream or in the sebaceous glands. So either way, it's all poison. Btw, I was talking about the Preventic collar made by virbac not the collar you mentioned. And yeah, they're not the most stylish but I'm ok with that. Have a great trip to FL.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I'm using the collars this way (on and off) but we don't go into the woods and have specific advice from our vet for our situation. Nexguard and all the rest are 24/7 too floating in the bloodstream or in the sebaceous glands. So either way, it's all poison. Btw, I was talking about the Preventic collar made by virbac not the collar you mentioned. And yeah, they're not the most stylish but I'm ok with that. Have a great trip to FL.

Oh yeah I know the other meds are in the bloodstream 24/7 too, more worried about me touching the collar, etc, I dunno, I just don't like the idea plus like I said I don't like the way it looks, and yeah that's superficial but whatever... haha! I've def thought about using the collars. My main gripe with using the topicals is the nasty greasyness it makes on his hair and it usually stays that way for a few days, or until I can bathe him or wash the area after the 48 hours. Plus in the summer, it's nearly impossible to keep him out of the pool for that long to wait for the stuff to kick in. So nexgard appeals to me for that reason as well.

oh yes I saw someone else mentioned the Seresto collar, sorry!

[ColbyJack]

I got Colby nexgaurd. Its in the mail. My question is Colby is 5lbs and the nexgaurd is 5-10lbs. Should I give him an entire dose or maybe 1/2? Or something else?

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by ColbyJack

I got Colby nexgaurd. Its in the mail. My question is Colby is 5lbs and the nexgaurd is 5-10lbs. Should I give him an entire dose or maybe 1/2? Or something else?

I would give her the entire dose, but split it in half and give her half one day, watch her for side effects, and if she's okay, give her the second half the next day.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ColbyJack

I got Colby nexgaurd. Its in the mail. My question is Colby is 5lbs and the nexgaurd is 5-10lbs. Should I give him an entire dose or maybe 1/2? Or something else?

That is probably something you need to talk to your vet about.

[Schooby]

I started Chase and Calvin on NexGard last month. I bought them each one dose from the vet while we were there for their heartworm tests, then ordered them each a 6 pack after making sure they didn't have any reactions to the meds. I wish it wasn't so expensive, but I'm glad there's finally something for ticks that is a chew!

[sandy simpson]

I would not take a chance with any med that people say made their dog sick. I have used revolution and had no problems. No greasy mess on the fur. Please research before you give a med and make your dog sick,

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by sandy simpson

I would not take a chance with any med that people say made their dog sick. I have used revolution and had no problems. No greasy mess on the fur. Please research before you give a med and make your dog sick,

Who said it made there dog sick? You do realize all of the topicals also go into the blood stream to right?

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Who said it made there dog sick? You do realize all of the topicals also go into the blood stream to right?

All heartworm medications--chewables or topicals--go into the bloodstream. It's a matter of personal choice, and what gives the dog fewest side effects. Some dogs tolerate some heartworm medications better than others. Bella does great on Revolution (a topical). The reason she started on Revolution is because they make a dose for dogs under five pounds. Since she does well on it, we never had a reason to change. (BTW, Revolution does leave a small amount of residue on the skin and fur, kind of like dried glue, but it's not a big deal.)

[ColbyJack]

We decided because I just don't like the idea of pesticides on the neck area. Colby and my aunts cocker spaniel play all the time and I don't want it getting on her or in her mouth. Figured we'd try nexgaurd and if it works and he tolerates it I'll keep him on it.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by pstinard

All heartworm medications--chewables or topicals--go into the bloodstream. It's a matter of personal choice, and what gives the dog fewest side effects. Some dogs tolerate some heartworm medications better than others. Bella does great on Revolution (a topical). The reason she started on Revolution is because they make a dose for dogs under five pounds. Since she does well on it, we never had a reason to change. (BTW, Revolution does leave a small amount of residue on the skin and fur, kind of like dried glue, but it's not a big deal.)

This is true. I have just lived through a toxicity with a product. But, I still think it's a safe product and my dog was just not a good match. I decided after this that I will not be using any tick product on my pets. I almost lost him, and I was scared, and I'm still recovering from the experience.