Annual Vaccinactions - why are some still doing them?

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Did you say you were uncomfortable with corona or?
If you told the vet not to give it, then that would be illegeal for him to do it.

Yes, we talked about it and the vet agreed that my dogs were low risk and needed only minimal vaccs, specifically no corona or lepto. We discussed each vaccine.

When I got home and went to file the receipt in Max's file, I read that he received the DA2P-CPV. I looked it up and was fuming about what that included.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Yes, we talked about it and the vet agreed that my dogs were low risk and needed only minimal vaccs, specifically no corona or lepto. We discussed each vaccine.

When I got home and went to file the receipt in Max's file, I read that he received the DA2P-CPV. I looked it up and was fuming about what that included.

That CPV looks like parvo, not corona...

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

I agree and corona is a vaccine that imo not necessary

Crystal do you have any research info showing any cases of corona in dogs as that one vet said on the videos there are no confirmed cases of it and if so why are vets vaccinating for it?

I think the disease does exist, but not sure that the vaccine has been research much or has been proven to be effective. Honestly, I haven't looked into it simply b/c I do not consider this vaccine necessary for any dog. I'd never tell soebody not to get it, but there is no question in my mind. It is unnecessary....esp. for adults!

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Yes, we talked about it and the vet agreed that my dogs were low risk and needed only minimal vaccs, specifically no corona or lepto. We discussed each vaccine.

When I got home and went to file the receipt in Max's file, I read that he received the DA2P-CPV. I looked it up and was fuming about what that included.

Distemper, Adenovirus type 2, parainfluenza - canine parvovirus

no corona, no worries

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

That CPV looks like parvo, not corona...

Originally Posted by kalina82

Distemper, Adenovirus type 2, parainfluenza - canine parvovirus

no corona, no worries

Thank you both! I feel much better.

When I googled it, the source I looked at included everything. I think it may have been that unreliable wiki.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Thank you both! I feel much better.

When I googled it, the source I looked at included everything. I think it may have been that unreliable wiki.

yeah petplace.com and peteducation.com sites are great for info as they are both written by vets so that is why i mostly use those sites for information on here.

I am glad the vet did not after all give your dog something that you did not approve of

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yeah petplace.com and peteducation.com sites are great for info as they are both written by vets so that is why i mostly use those sites for information on here.

I am glad the vet did not after all give your dog something that you did not approve of

Thank you for the links.

Yes, big relief -- no corona, and I don't have to be mad at the vet. I really like him and don't want to have to go looking again.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Thank you for the links.

Yes, big relief -- no corona, and I don't have to be mad at the vet. I really like him and don't want to have to go looking again.

yeah as it is tough to find a good vet for sure so glad you have a good one

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by jadabug

I have just started do research on vaccines, you all have much more knowledge in this area than I do. I your opinion what vaccines do you think are really necessary. My two rarely ever go outside, are not around other animals other than than my mom's biewer. I do my own grooming, so I just wondered what actuall risk is there for them, that I would need to vaccinate for.

Prince's lifestyle is a lot like your pups. Because of his lifestyle and because of his sensitivity to meds, he is exempt from vaccines. He only gets heart worm preventative meds (Revolution)...that's it. The vet gave me a letter stating this, which I carry with me when I have Prince. I don't know if an airline will accept the letter if we need to fly, but we didn't have any problems the times we stayed in a hotel.

[dwerten]

bumping as someone needs help with vaccinations

[Ellie May]

Just bumping this after looking at the poll again and realizing that it is staying at about 50% (vaccinating annually)!

[kay6688]

here is what I found......http://www.centralvets.com/blog/?p=1&cpage=1
Hi,

I was wondering if we could discuss dog vaccinations and protocols (in particular Dr. Jean Dodds’ vaccine protocols). This is an area that is of particular interest to me.

New York State accepts 3-year rabies vaccinations. Why do some vet offices in NYS still give 1-year rabies vaccinations and not 3-year vaccinations? And why do some vet offices require dogs to be revaccinated with a 1-year rabies vaccination if they are already current with a 3-year rabies vaccination? This doesn’t make any sense to me.

Aren’t 3-year rabies vaccinations better than 1-year vaccinations since the effects of overvaccination are much decreased? And since all veterinary schools accept Jean Dodds’ limited vaccination protocol shouldn’t all vet offices stop using 1-year rabies vaccinations in favor of the 3-year rabies vaccination?
Thank you for your thoughts on this important topic!

Lindsay Dowling

Comment by Lindsay Dowling — September 29, 2009 @ 9:36 am


Hi Lindsay,

Excellent Questions!

There are a lot of different opinions in the veterinary community abuot vaccine protocols. But one area that everyone is in agreement is that a practice’s vaccination protocol should be based on their specific locale, state requirements, and their patient’s lifestyle.

In New York State ensuring that your pet’s Rabies vaccination status is current is THE LAW. There are not any conclusive studies to suggest that giving a pet a 1 year Rabies vaccine as opposed to a 3 year Rabies vaccine has any negative effect on a pet. However, with a 3 year Rabies vaccine (specifically in cats), there is an increased chance of developing sarcomas, a malignant type of cancer.

The 3 year Rabies vaccination is only current for 3 years IF your pet has been vaccinated with it TWO times at 1 year intervals. Because of this, many veterinarians when seeing a new client whom does not present paperwork from a licensed veterinarian indicating that the 3 year Rabies vaccine was given twice, will accept the vaccine as only a 1 year vaccine. In particular, at Central Veterinary Associates, P.C. that would be our protocol. Our priority and our company policy is to ensure that all pets are protected against Rabies for our patient’s protection, our client’s protection, as well as our staff’s who are handling the pets.

As mentioned earlier, there is not any conclusive evidence indicating that a 3 year Rabies vaccination is better than a 1 year Rabies vaccination. In addition, there is not any conclusive evidence that Dr. Jean Dodd’s vaccine protocol is better than anyone elses. (FYI: Veterinary schools have not adopted Dodd’s protocols.) When a practice or area that has tried to spread vaccinations out over a longer period of time experiences an outbreak of a particular disease, the recommendation is to revaccinate any pet that hasn’t been vaccinated in over a year. So which is better? Spread them out longer and see if an outbreak occurs (risking both animals and humans as some of these vaccines protect public health) or vaccinate yearly which has proven over the years to provide pets and the public with protection that has minimal risks to the patient.

I hope this helps. Thanks for your interest and participation! If you have further questions don’t hesitate to ask and expect a new blog entry centered on Dr. Jean Dodd’s protocols in the near future.

Aaron Vine, DVM

Comment by admin — October 7, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Just bumping this after looking at the poll again and realizing that it is staying at about 50% (vaccinating annually)!

i know it is scary thanks crystal as no wonder so many dogs with health issues I think it is definitely tied together sadly

[Ellie May]

How sad.

Not quite sure how a 3-year could cause sarcoma easier than a 1 year since in the case of at least one company, it is the same exact vaccine...

They aren't taking side effects into consideration that show up later.
I hope people don't find that online and trust it over the AAHA! Wow.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by kay6688

here is what I found......Welcome to the Centralvets.com Blog! Central Vets Blog
Hi,

I was wondering if we could discuss dog vaccinations and protocols (in particular Dr. Jean Dodds’ vaccine protocols). This is an area that is of particular interest to me.

New York State accepts 3-year rabies vaccinations. Why do some vet offices in NYS still give 1-year rabies vaccinations and not 3-year vaccinations? And why do some vet offices require dogs to be revaccinated with a 1-year rabies vaccination if they are already current with a 3-year rabies vaccination? This doesn’t make any sense to me.

Aren’t 3-year rabies vaccinations better than 1-year vaccinations since the effects of overvaccination are much decreased? And since all veterinary schools accept Jean Dodds’ limited vaccination protocol shouldn’t all vet offices stop using 1-year rabies vaccinations in favor of the 3-year rabies vaccination?
Thank you for your thoughts on this important topic!

Lindsay Dowling

Comment by Lindsay Dowling — September 29, 2009 @ 9:36 am


Hi Lindsay,

Excellent Questions!

There are a lot of different opinions in the veterinary community abuot vaccine protocols. But one area that everyone is in agreement is that a practice’s vaccination protocol should be based on their specific locale, state requirements, and their patient’s lifestyle.

In New York State ensuring that your pet’s Rabies vaccination status is current is THE LAW. There are not any conclusive studies to suggest that giving a pet a 1 year Rabies vaccine as opposed to a 3 year Rabies vaccine has any negative effect on a pet. However, with a 3 year Rabies vaccine (specifically in cats), there is an increased chance of developing sarcomas, a malignant type of cancer.

The 3 year Rabies vaccination is only current for 3 years IF your pet has been vaccinated with it TWO times at 1 year intervals. Because of this, many veterinarians when seeing a new client whom does not present paperwork from a licensed veterinarian indicating that the 3 year Rabies vaccine was given twice, will accept the vaccine as only a 1 year vaccine. In particular, at Central Veterinary Associates, P.C. that would be our protocol. Our priority and our company policy is to ensure that all pets are protected against Rabies for our patient’s protection, our client’s protection, as well as our staff’s who are handling the pets.

As mentioned earlier, there is not any conclusive evidence indicating that a 3 year Rabies vaccination is better than a 1 year Rabies vaccination. In addition, there is not any conclusive evidence that Dr. Jean Dodd’s vaccine protocol is better than anyone elses. (FYI: Veterinary schools have not adopted Dodd’s protocols.) When a practice or area that has tried to spread vaccinations out over a longer period of time experiences an outbreak of a particular disease, the recommendation is to revaccinate any pet that hasn’t been vaccinated in over a year. So which is better? Spread them out longer and see if an outbreak occurs (risking both animals and humans as some of these vaccines protect public health) or vaccinate yearly which has proven over the years to provide pets and the public with protection that has minimal risks to the patient.

I hope this helps. Thanks for your interest and participation! If you have further questions don’t hesitate to ask and expect a new blog entry centered on Dr. Jean Dodd’s protocols in the near future.

Aaron Vine, DVM

Comment by admin — October 7, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

LOL the three year vaccine is the same as the one year they just call it the one year for the one year booster then 3 year thereafter but it is the same vaccine ultimately so maybe you should ask if the 3 year is the same as the one year vaccine from manufacturer

also it depends on county you live in not state for rabies.

also ask if they vaccinate in areas so if the dog gets cancer in that spot they can amputate?