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Old 05-11-2010, 07:17 AM   #1
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Default Annual Vaccinactions - why are some still doing them?

A couple of us are just kinda wondering, for those who still vaccinate annually, is there a particular reason why?

Is it that you're comfortable with it?
Vet insists?
Don't want to question vet?
Aren't convinced that they cause harm?
Research too confusing (you're not alone!)?

The poll in the "polls" section seems to be saying that 50% of YT'ers are still doing these things annually. But then the AAHA says totally unnecessary, so is it the AAHA that people aren't trusting?
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I am glad you posted this as it is SCARY to me that this is polling out this way

I joined the gme group and reading about this more after rorie incident and seems alot of dogs are getting this after vaccinations It is not a direct cause but since gme can be disease or autoimmune related they are tying the two together. On the group today they stated that when the annual vaccine cards go out this time of year they have alot people join the group regarding gme shortly after

they also stated they are seeing it mostly in yorkies and maltese breed

Dr Sisson is the expert on GME so they are forwarding his paper for me to read as well and he said the protocol that he recommends is one year booster then only rabies every 3 years there after and he believes the dog has immunity for 10 years after that one year booster for dhpp also he said no real reason to titer as even a low titered dog can have immunity

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Crystal, thanks for the follow up to this poll.

I really want to understand why folks are still overvaccinating -- bc if we understand the reason, maybe there is way we can all help address it and keep our yorkies safe, using only the vaccines they need.
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Crystal, thanks for the follow up to this poll.

I really want to understand why folks are still overvaccinating -- bc if we understand the reason, maybe there is way we can all help address it and keep our yorkies safe, using only the vaccines they need.
me too ann as the only thing i can think of is they trust the vet, the vet sends the annual card and the vet is not up to date on current information so i will be real curious to see what the answers are here I just hate to see so many getting unnecessary diseases as well as some dying from reactions
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Jada goes to the vet tomorrow for her annual check up and Rabies. We are not doing booster for anything else. I may do every 3 yrs on the boosters, but right now I am not going to do anything but Rabies. My DIL is a vet tech for my vet and she says that in our area most people are only doing rabies on their small animals. I know in the past he only gives our house cat his boosters every 3 years, if it wasn't required by law I would not do rabies either. Too much risk involved. I was really surprised how the poll turned out.
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I am just dumb! I answered that thread forgetting that I changed vet's
because the old vet would not stop giving yearly vaccines. Can you believe
I forgot that? I ment to go back to that thread and post an update but
got busy at work, then saw this.
Our vet works by the AAHA protocol. I just made Bud's yearly and all he
needs this year is a boster for lymnes, which is a must because our walking
area is shared with hundreds of deer.
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I am just dumb! I answered that thread forgetting that I changed vet's
because the old vet would not stop giving yearly vaccines. Can you believe
I forgot that? I ment to go back to that thread and post an update but
got busy at work, then saw this.
Our vet works by the AAHA protocol. I just made Bud's yearly and all he
needs this year is a boster for lymnes, which is a must because our walking
area is shared with hundreds of deer.
I feel like such a dunce forgetting about the switch.
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lol you are not dumb you are smart you posted what happened before YOU were smart enough to switch vets not everyone does sadly so i think you are SMART GF
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Crystal, thanks for the follow up to this poll.

I really want to understand why folks are still overvaccinating -- bc if we understand the reason, maybe there is way we can all help address it and keep our yorkies safe, using only the vaccines they need.

I have just started do research on vaccines, you all have much more knowledge in this area than I do. I your opinion what vaccines do you think are really necessary. My two rarely ever go outside, are not around other animals other than than my mom's biewer. I do my own grooming, so I just wondered what actuall risk is there for them, that I would need to vaccinate for.
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Well I dont vaccinate annually.

But most people I discuss it with have the attitude that the vets went to school for this and know better then them so if they tell them to do it they are going to do it.

I actually had one person tell me that maybe the reason my dog was sick (with MVD) was BECAUSE I dont vaccinate like the vets tell you to Seriously, people are just that uneducated sometimes.
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A couple of us are just kinda wondering, for those who still vaccinate annually, is there a particular reason why?

Is it that you're comfortable with it?
Vet insists?
Don't want to question vet?
Aren't convinced that they cause harm?
Research too confusing (you're not alone!)?

The poll in the "polls" section seems to be saying that 50% of YT'ers are still doing these things annually. But then the AAHA says totally unnecessary, so is it the AAHA that people aren't trusting?
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maybe admin can change the title to ANNUAL VACCINATIONS WHY? just a thought as i hope to draw more people here so we can get some answers on this
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Well I dont vaccinate annually.

But most people I discuss it with have the attitude that the vets went to school for this and know better then them so if they tell them to do it they are going to do it.

I actually had one person tell me that maybe the reason my dog was sick (with MVD) was BECAUSE I dont vaccinate like the vets tell you to Seriously, people are just that uneducated sometimes.
yep 100% agree with this PEOPLE TRUST THEIR VETS and need to do some homework. We all get lazy in our professions sadly it happens to all of us professionals. We stop educating ourselves on the current research and go with the flow but in the medical profession sadly this can be deadly.
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My Vet recommends boosters every 2 years. I did titers 2 years ago for Parvo and Distemper and they were both good. My Vet says I don't have to do the booster, but he did make a comment that "they may not let them in the hospital" without the boosters. I haven't come to that yet, so I don't know what will happen.

Rabies is 3 yrs by law, and I can't not do it
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IDK why Crystal other than they just take the vets word for it and don't research further.

I was just at our vet this morning, the vet was one the phone telling a client...."Daisy is due for her boosters on May 15th". I wanted to ask him why he still insists on yearly boosters, but knew the answer already....Money!

Until the ALL vets get on board with newer vaccine protocols, I don't see the situation changing. All we can do is try to educate through talking to our friends, familes, etc. and of course educating here.
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My Vet recommends boosters every 2 years. I did titers 2 years ago for Parvo and Distemper and they were both good. My Vet says I don't have to do the booster, but he did make a comment that "they may not let them in the hospital" without the boosters. I haven't come to that yet, so I don't know what will happen.

Rabies is 3 yrs by law, and I can't not do it
I hate when vets threaten that

At our vets only Rabies is required and they have even let us stop vaccinating our cat for that and still let her in... she has a medical exemption for Rabies (injection site sarcoma survivor) and they are fine with that.
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My Vet recommends boosters every 2 years. I did titers 2 years ago for Parvo and Distemper and they were both good. My Vet says I don't have to do the booster, but he did make a comment that "they may not let them in the hospital" without the boosters. I haven't come to that yet, so I don't know what will happen.

Rabies is 3 yrs by law, and I can't not do it
did they say why 2 years when protocol is 3 now?

Wow i cannot imagine them requiring it to be hospitalized as when dex was so sick with pancreatitis the one vet gave him bordatella vaccine as yep had no clue that was a bad thing to do to a dog that was so sick the er and specialty hospital were furious a vet would do this to a sick dog and asked why this was done and i said I DUNNO the vet told me it was ok

I guess it would be good to call around before an emergency situation to find out what hospitals require dhpp and which do not so if that comes up you know where to go as i know our specialty hospital does not require it thank goodness
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