Annual Vaccinactions - why are some still doing them?

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Doodlebug

I would be interested in having it done once just to see if it is high. I'm not sure what you mean by cellular. Can you explain?

That just means that at the cellular level, the virus could be recognized (sorry, I'm not extremely science-y) and the pup is still protected. The higher the titer, the more antibodies the pup has. But low antibodies doesn't mean no cellular immunity. So titers are only showing half the picture basically.

[Doodlebug]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

That just means that at the cellular level, the virus could be recognized (sorry, I'm not extremely science-y) and the pup is still protected. The higher the titer, the more antibodies the pup has. But low antibodies doesn't mean no cellular immunity. So titers are only showing half the picture basically.

oh, ok thanks.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Check Health and Diet section for a post by LadyMom today. It is a growing concern in CA. I'd be considering meds!

girl don't scare me like that loll I will go read

i talk to vet each time i go in on this bc my concern is pools due to all the foreclosures and people not draining or taking care of pools. My next door neighbor went into foreclosure and the realtor was a friend and i called and said i am calling to report or you turn the electricity on and i will let my pool guy use our water to keep it up and clean it as i do not want to worry about mosquitos and hate to say it but my client is a scientist and told me to poor crisco oil in the pool if they do not drain it as it will kill mosquito larvae and trust me i do not care i would have done it lollll Luckily my bud took care of it as i was freaking.

Now do not tell dh as that is my one excuse not to move to ohio loll

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Yes, new vaccine protocol is now being taught by all 27 North American veterinary schools. I believe the new vaccine protocols have been in place for several years now.

Subject: New Vaccination Protocol adopted by Vet schools

I checked with jean dodds as i always run any links with her name by her as i know some info on internet was written and not from her sadly. She stated she never said this so i wanted to post this and thank Jen for posting it because i have wondered which article it was that was circling the internet that was not correct so others can be aware of this one as well.

The site she likes best is this one as this site is a friend of hers and she said she keeps it up to date regularly as i wanted to know where to refer people for info that is coming directly from her.

Dr-Dodds-ChangingVaccProtocol

[hugz4all4]

I havent read through the entire thread and will when I have the time because I find this a very interesting topic and cant wait to read all the info!!
Anyways, I do all puppy shots, then thier one year boosters, then not again untill every 3 years when their rabies is due.(needed here by law) I dont believe that all vets do it for the money.. majority yes.. but there are some out there now that are getting with the program and not recommending it. I absoutley love my vet and she has never given me any issues as far as vax's, food etc. I do wish more vets were like her..

[Repunzel]

Imagine if we annually vaccinate ourselves what types of diseases we would have to contend with. I'm more holistic so I approach my dogs' health cautiously. I vaccinate minimally and not until after 12 weeks after the maternal antibodies disappear. Vaccinating repeatedly prior to that is worrisome to me. I changed my entire perspective after my beloved dog of 7 years came down with cancer. After two attempts to remove the tumors his vet found my dog's surgical site would not heal. I had the vet euthanize him and vowed I would not get another dog until I got to the bottom of his health problems. I thought it had to be either the water or the commercial dog food because I don't remember having to battle this when I was younger and had dogs. However, I do remember having to vaccinate my dog (of 7 years) every time we changed military stations. He had to get the rabies vaccination three times before I settled in Seattle. Fast forward five years when family friends gave my kids a gladiator dobie/rott mix. Prior to Xena's arrival I had done quite a bit of research from raw meaty bones to vaccinations. I have to say today she looks wonderful as do Sophie (maltipoo) and Emily (yorkster). Sophie, incidentally, dislocated her left knee when she was less than a year, while romping roughly through the backyard. The vet insisted she needed an expensive surgery. I had him pop her knee back in and have to say she's mobile like it never happened. Her future remains to be seen I do realize that but for now she recovered beautifully. Also, Xena's brother, who was fed commercial dog food, broke his knee and had to be euthanized. I am a firm believer in feeding my canines raw meaty bones because their bones grow at a slower rate and they don't make trips to the vet which is a huge savings; and I vaccinate sparingly opting for titer blood tests instead.

[TLC]

Interesting...

Take a look at these 2 young pups in rescue with MAJOR issues, probably due to reactions to Vaccines

Adoptable Yorkshire Terrier Yorkie: Help BamBam: Petfinder

Adoptable Yorkshire Terrier Yorkie: HELP Pebbles: Petfinder

[ladyjane]

Wonder if the breeder gave the shots. I would love to know what the full story is. Had to be a bad batch of something if two from the same litter had a problem. Hopefully someone will come out and say something. Horrible story if they both had reactions.

We cannot just not vaccinate. Things like this scare people...I really hope they will disclose what happened.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Wonder if the breeder gave the shots. I would love to know what the full story is. Had to be a bad batch of something if two from the same litter had a problem. Hopefully someone will come out and say something. Horrible story if they both had reactions.

We cannot just not vaccinate. Things like this scare people...I really hope they will disclose what happened.

yeah LJ i thought the same thing if the breeder gave the shots anyway to find out TLC on that as sounds like that might have happened to these two as puppies need to get protected at minimum up to one year booster if healthy

why do breeders give shots? I do not know much about breeding stuff - is it to cut the costs for their litters?

[TLC]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yeah LJ i thought the same thing if the breeder gave the shots anyway to find out TLC on that as sounds like that might have happened to these two as puppies need to get protected at minimum up to one year booster if healthy

why do breeders give shots? I do not know much about breeding stuff - is it to cut the costs for their litters?

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Wonder if the breeder gave the shots. I would love to know what the full story is. Had to be a bad batch of something if two from the same litter had a problem. Hopefully someone will come out and say something. Horrible story if they both had reactions.

We cannot just not vaccinate. Things like this scare people...I really hope they will disclose what happened.

There is more to the story, but I doubt anyone will ever find out Original owners has sealed Vet records...unbelievable

At least now the pups are in good hands, and are seeing every specialist possible right now to get them any and all help needed for them...

...breaks my heart

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by TLC

There is more to the story, but I doubt anyone will ever find out Original owners has sealed Vet records...unbelievable

At least now the pups are in good hands, and are seeing every specialist possible right now to get them any and all help needed for them...

...breaks my heart

If they closed the records, they are probably hiding something. The thing that concerns me is that people see something like that and think they should not vaccinate their puppies.

I agree...it is tragic. They are darlings. Thank God they are in good hands.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

There is more to the story, but I doubt anyone will ever find out Original owners has sealed Vet records...unbelievable

At least now the pups are in good hands, and are seeing every specialist possible right now to get them any and all help needed for them...

...breaks my heart

whoa vet records sealed - that is an outrage why what do they have to hide - just sickens me to read that - poor babies glad they are with someone good now

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

If they closed the records, they are probably hiding something. The thing that concerns me is that people see something like that and think they should not vaccinate their puppies.

I agree...it is tragic. They are darlings. Thank God they are in good hands.

yeah LJ bet it is a backyard breeder is what i would bet my money on - a breeding attempt gone bad by a overdose of vaccinations

[TLC]

Oh, I agree, young pups do need to be properly vacinated by a qualified Vet. In this case, who knows who did what, when and with what...now sadly there are 2 sick pups

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

Oh, I agree, young pups do need to be properly vacinated by a qualified Vet. In this case, who knows who did what, when and with what...now sadly there are 2 sick pups

yeah just breaks my heart all these little ones with health issues when they do not need to have them. I hope this will bring awareness on how to try to do it the safest way possible for pet owners.

I never thought i would say this but maybe it is a good thing mine had health issues young so i could learn all this early on