Annual Vaccinactions - why are some still doing them?

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yes i think you are right on the rodent urine as that sounds like what i have heard too

yeah i agree with C on this as some areas have bad lepto issues but it does not cover all strains so i personally would not do it in my dogs but you have to discuss it with your vet and maybe a few vets in area as some say we need it here and some say we do not need it here. I choose not to do it

Is there a website showing areas at high risk for lepto like there is for heartworm?

Not really a map, but there are a couple states listed here in there (MI and NJ being well known).

this is actually the vaccine that Miss Ellie collapsed and went into shock over. Scary stuff. Certainly understand the breeders who say don't give it, but understand the vets that say do. So I think it's an individual decision.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Doodlebug

no they didn't get the giardia vaccine but they get their stools checked with their shots yearly. Once one of them had some parasites (I think that is what they said) and they both got treated with meds.

whew ok that is good

yes you should get bloodwork, fecal and urine annually and i think when seniors they need semi annual exams. I am not sure of what age they are considered seniors but I think LJ knows that answer

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Not really a map, but there are a couple states listed here in there (MI and NJ being well known).

this is actually the vaccine that Miss Ellie collapsed and went into shock over. Scary stuff. Certainly understand the breeders who say don't give it, but understand the vets that say do. So I think it's an individual decision.

whoa that is Scary C

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

whoa that is Scary C

Yes, very.
She was unresponsive (wild eyed, wouldn't move) and her gums were grey. Terrible feeling. I think the people who do give the lepto vaccine would really be rethinking it if this happened. Not going to be the first in line to get it if I ever have another Yorkie. That's for sure!

[Doodlebug]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Yes, the US is having a lepto problem right now. If it is needed in your case (one of those things I won't have an opinion on), then it can be given as a single instead of part of a combo. Lepto has to be given at least once yearly for protection and it does not protect against all strains.

I believe (besides standing water) that it is transferred by rodent urine

So if my vet strongly recommends the lepto vac I should consider it but not at the same time as the rabies shot, right? My kids are 15 lbs and I always thought being bigger they could handle the shots. I am questioning this now.

[dwerten]

here is a link from my vet group i am on as someone posted this

It is alot of questions and answers

Vaccinations & Vaccines - QA Viewer

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Doodlebug

So if my vet strongly recommends the lepto vac I should consider it but not at the same time as the rabies shot, right? My kids are 15 lbs and I always thought being bigger they could handle the shots. I am questioning this now.

That is right.
You should gather information from breeders, vets in your area, and veterinary immunologists/specialists dealing with canine vaccines and make your decision from there.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Yes, very.
She was unresponsive (wild eyed, wouldn't move) and her gums were grey. Terrible feeling. I think the people who do give the lepto vaccine would really be rethinking it if this happened. Not going to be the first in line to get it if I ever have another Yorkie. That's for sure!

That would scare the beegeebees out of me. I would never do another one and just make sure there was no exposure. I would not even be last in line!

[ladyjane]

Not sure if there is an exact age that a pup is considered a senior. I am guessing about 10 for a yorkie. But...it probably also depends upon the health of the pup.

At the age of 8 they are considered adults....and some are healthier than others. I have lost pups at the age of 12 and they were definitely showing their age when they passed. Right now I have a 15 year old foster that is healthy as a horse and actually prances when she is outside. She cracks me up!

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Doodlebug

So if my vet strongly recommends the lepto vac I should consider it but not at the same time as the rabies shot, right? My kids are 15 lbs and I always thought being bigger they could handle the shots. I am questioning this now.

do some more homework do not take just one opinion as this is the vaccine that has the most reactions and remember it does not cover all strains

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Not sure if there is an exact age that a pup is considered a senior. I am guessing about 10

ok thanks as i thought 6 was it but then all of mine would be seniors and i want to think of them as puppies still lollllll and someone said 6 for big dogs not small dogs -whew

[Doodlebug]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Yes, very.
She was unresponsive (wild eyed, wouldn't move) and her gums were grey. Terrible feeling. I think the people who do give the lepto vaccine would really be rethinking it if this happened. Not going to be the first in line to get it if I ever have another Yorkie. That's for sure!

OMG, this is so scary.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

That would scare the beegeebees out of me. I would never do another one and just make sure there was no exposure. I would not even be last in line!

lol, I'm sure it would.
Thankful for emergency medicine!
Now when Ellie does get vaccines (obv. never lepto) (just rabies now), we premed with Benadryl and wait at vet's for 1/2 hour. She just keeps checking her gums for us. Needless to say, I hate vaccine days!

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

That would scare the beegeebees out of me. I would never do another one and just make sure there was no exposure. I would not even be last in line!

i agree

very scary c - hey did you ever find out if it is tied to mvd issues as i know you were trying to find info on that?

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dwerten

ok thanks as i thought 6 was it but then all of mine would be seniors and i want to think of them as puppies still lollllll and someone said 6 for big dogs not small dogs -whew

Yeah...I am sure it is not 6 for yorkies. The large breed pups don't have the life span of the toy breeds so 6 is probably right for say a Great Dane.