Royal Canin is "changing" their formula....

[kb4475]

The main reason I switched is because she turned a year old. I thought I should switch her to adult food. Was I wrong for doing that?

[maxmom]

There we go again! I started buying RC when I first bought Max, and after all the negative reviews I decided to switch to a better quality dry food, Wellness did not work,Chicken Soup,the one from Trilogy(forgot the name), NB, NV did a number on Sophie's stomach, TOW either, so we went back to RC, I guess is back to square one and start looking for something else.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by peggynitro

NOTE: I appologize to everyone that I couldn't get the very top line copied then pasted here from that email. The only thing missing that I'm aware of is the header and I assume maybe it's copywritten or something so it can't be copied off. Truth is that I'm not very computer smart either and that can be the problem. But I did manage to get the "meat" of the post. Peggy


Royal Canin USA Upgrades
PRO Canine Small Breed Formulas

Royal Canin has made a few changes to three of the canine small breed formulas. You have not seen any of these changes on your current food, but you will soon be seeing these changes as noted on stickers placed on bags delivered to your door in the near future. Recent scientific advances have allowed us to enhance these formulas to the better benefit of the breed and we want to take this opportunity to share these advancements with our partners.

Royal Canin has removed chicken from the ingredients of Chihuahua 28™ and Yorkshire Terrier 28™, and replaced it with chicken meal.

What is chicken meal?
Chicken meal is simply chicken without the fat and water content.
Chicken meal does not include chicken by-product sources.

As you can see by the example below, chicken meal is just a more concentrated source of chicken protein.

Ingredient
% protein this ingredient
contains:
If this amount of the ingredient were added to formula…
...then this would be the amount of protein provided to the formula

Chicken
(contains approx.
65% moisture)
15%
100g
15g

Chicken Meal
(contains 10% moisture)
65%
100g
65g


Following are additional changes made to each individual product:

Chihuahua 28™


Chicken Meal
We have replaced chicken with chicken meal as a highly digestible protein source.

Borage Oil
We have removed borage oil from Chihuahua 28. We have optimized the fatty acid spectrum with the use of other essential oils.

Vitamin A
Vitamin A is important to protect the skin barrier. We have increased the level of Vitamin A for healthy skin.




Dachshund 28™


Glucosamine and Chondroitin
We have increased glucosamine and chondroitin to 700 mg/kg combined to support the Dachshund's skeleton and joints.

Borage Oil
We have removed borage oil from Dachshund 28™. We have optimized the fatty acid spectrum with the use of other essential oils.

Vitamin A
Vitamin A is important to protect the skin barrier. We have increased the level of Vitamin A for healthy skin.




Yorkshire Terrier 28™


Chicken Meal
We have replaced chicken with chicken meal as a highly digestible protein source.

Salmon Meal
We have removed salmon meal from Yorkshire Terrier 28™ and optimized the amino acid spectrum with other ingredients.

Wheat Gluten
Meal
We have added wheat gluten meal, which is 99% digestible, as a protein source.

Vitamin A
Vitamin A is important to protect the skin barrier. We have increased the level of Vitamin A for healthy skin.


Please feel free to contact our Consumer Assistance professionals at 1.800.592.6687 with any additional questions or concerns.

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seeen by veterinarians.


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Thanks for listing their phone number, I was able to call them, and I think I understand more now. Chicken meal has been the first ingredient for a long time, but chicken was listed further down the list. They will be replacing all the chicken with chicken meal; I do not see this as a bad thing. They will be adding wheat gluten because it contains an amino acid not found in chicken, and they believe that it is important to intestinal health. She said the reason that people are so concerned over the wheat issue is because of the China problem, (it was rancid) and that they do not import any wheat.

I've got to say, this is the first time I've ever called a company and spoke with someone who really seemed to understand what they were talking about. (I wish computer companies where this good.) I'm not an easy person to snow, and if she was able to put one over on me, she's good. She seemed more than happy to answer any of my questions, and I recommend that you call the 1.800.592.6687 number, and talk with them and voice your concerns, or questions.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Dogs don't do well with changes in diet, most people think changing very slowly is the answer, and usually 3/4 to 1/4 the first day will work, but if there is any diarrhea or vomiting cut back. You might just try giving a few pieces as you would a treat, but don't increase until there is no signs of intestinal distress. By the way, why did you decide to switch?

I usually start with 3 new kibbles added and 3 of the old taken out and just increase the amount by a few kibbles a day.

[Mardelin]

Here is the response I received from Royal Canin

Dear Mary

Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We appreciate all questions and comments from our customers. The percentage of protein on the new Yorkshire Terrier 28 has not changed it is still 28%. As for wheat gluten the reason that we have added that to the diet is because it is a 99% digestible protein source. Wheat gluten also offers your Yorkie a very important amino acid called glutamine. Glutamine helps preserve GI (gastrointestinal) health as it is the preferred fuel of small intestine mucosa. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

Warm regards,
Rachel
Technical Services
800-592-6687

[kb4475]

Thank you, I appreciate the response. I just took Coco to the vet 2 days ago and they recommended Royal Canine. I thought I was doing it right, but she still has diarrhea. I was only giving her a little bit with her old food. So my only alternative is to keep her on the puppy food. It's just crazy because the vet told me to do this, but I am failing. I don't want her to feel sick. She's even resorted to going potty where she is not supposed to go.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kb4475

Thank you, I appreciate the response. I just took Coco to the vet 2 days ago and they recommended Royal Canine. I thought I was doing it right, but she still has diarrhea. I was only giving her a little bit with her old food. So my only alternative is to keep her on the puppy food. It's just crazy because the vet told me to do this, but I am failing. I don't want her to feel sick. She's even resorted to going potty where she is not supposed to go.

You might want to back off the RC for a couple of days and let her system get back to normal....then start slowly a couple of kibbles at a time.....Now if she continues with the diarreah, the RC may just not agree with her.....and you'll have to find something else.

[kb4475]

Thank you for your response. I am so new at all of this! The only thing I can think of is I gave her the Heartguard chew yesterday, first time taking it. Maybe it was to much. She went to the vet for smelly ears. Turned out she has a bacteria in her ears. Giving her meds for that. Don't know if that would stress her out to the point where she would have diarrhea. Any suggestions on other foods?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kb4475

Thank you for your response. I am so new at all of this! The only thing I can think of is I gave her the Heartguard chew yesterday, first time taking it. Maybe it was to much. She went to the vet for smelly ears. Turned out she has a bacteria in her ears. Giving her meds for that. Don't know if that would stress her out to the point where she would have diarrhea. Any suggestions on other foods?

Oh dear....to many things for this wee one. How old is she? Might want to as your vet to change her heartguard to Intercepter....

Did your vet remove the hair from her ear canal? Remember to use a good ear cleaner with a drying agent after you bathe her.....And yes, stress can cause dirreah.....go back to square one and go slowly.

[kb4475]

Coco had her birthday yesterday. She is one years old. Just gave her a bath, the diarrhea got everywhere. I do have a good ear cleaner along with the medication. Maybe I am just stressing her out. She didn't want to play as much as she usually does. I took the Royal Canine out of her bowl, feeding her the puppy food. Could this be from her heart medication? I am thinking it's the new food, but like I said I am new at this. Just want her to feel okay.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by kb4475

Thank you for your response. I am so new at all of this! The only thing I can think of is I gave her the Heartguard chew yesterday, first time taking it. Maybe it was to much. She went to the vet for smelly ears. Turned out she has a bacteria in her ears. Giving her meds for that. Don't know if that would stress her out to the point where she would have diarrhea. Any suggestions on other foods?

Actually, I'm more suspicious of the meds she's taking for the ear problem, are they an antibiotic? Sometimes antibiotics can kill good bacteria as well as bad bacteria and this can lead to intestinal distress.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Actually, I'm more suspicious of the meds she's taking for the ear problem, are they an antibiotic? Sometimes antibiotics can kill good bacteria as well as bad bacteria and this can lead to intestinal distress.

Me too. But, are you giving her antibiotics orally or just using an antibiotic that is to be administered to the ear. However, I'd take her off all food and put her on a bland diet of steamed rice and boneless, skinless steamed chicken.....and get her back to the vet's in the morning. Make sure that she is getting plenty of fluids....if you can Pedialyte would be good.....mixed in with her water.

Listen to her tummy for gurgling....also, if you can take her temp....normal is 101.2...if tummy is gurgling and temp is below 100 it's an indication that you are dealing with enteritis.....again, I strongly suggest that you get her into the vet.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Me too. But, are you giving her antibiotics orally or just using an antibiotic that is to be administered to the ear. However, I'd take her off all food and put her on a bland diet of steamed rice and boneless, skinless steamed chicken.....and get her back to the vet's in the morning. Make sure that she is getting plenty of fluids....if you can Pedialyte would be good.....mixed in with her water.

Listen to her tummy for gurgling....also, if you can take her temp....normal is 101.2...if tummy is gurgling and temp is below 100 it's an indication that you are dealing with enteritis.....again, I strongly suggest that you get her into the vet.

Great advice!

[kb4475]

The ear medication are drops, not oral. She did not eat her food tonight, she is sleeping alot. No gurgling of the stomache. I will take her to the vet in the morning. So it is suggested that I cook her food, rice and chicken. She does have somewhat of an appetite, she didn't refuse a treat after her bath. What does it sound like this is? The heartguard or swicthing food? Like I said before, Coco has never had diarrhea before.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kb4475

The ear medication are drops, not oral. She did not eat her food tonight, she is sleeping alot. No gurgling of the stomache. I will take her to the vet in the morning. So it is suggested that I cook her food, rice and chicken. She does have somewhat of an appetite, she didn't refuse a treat after her bath. What does it sound like this is? The heartguard or swicthing food? Like I said before, Coco has never had diarrhea before.

It could be food changing, or the heartguard.....but, then it could be a multitude of other things....diarreah is something I don't think you should mess with. Do you have any NutriCal on hand, I'd give her a bit, just to make sure her sugar levels are kept up. Your vet is going to have you put her on a bland diet for a few days and most likely do a fecal on her....and give her meds to control the diarreah and get her back to normal.....