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tarpy · 01-31-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexi Rae

crating 8 hrs a day is very much cruel..... my opinion....
cant you get an xpen or at least leave the puppy in a hall way or kitchen
or bedroom with door open..... that is too much time in a crate..... not fair

We're trying the kitchen (baby gated). One question, what is too small of a room? In the new house, we've got a 1/2 bath that is small, but enclosed, and has a blower right from the furnace so it will keep him nice and warm, and we can put in toys and a dog bed (fleece one).

I guess fundamentally the question is, will he ever be able to hold it 8 hours at a time? Other dogs I've had/grown up with, have been able to, but Hulk is the smallest dog we've had so far (he's 12lbs, so a big yorkie, and yes, we do have AKC papers

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Lexi Rae · 01-31-2007, 01:12 PM

the kitchen sounds pretty good.. good luck... he will be more a happy boy...

HarrisFamily · 01-31-2007, 04:58 PM

Tarpy-

My twelve pounder can hold it all day while I'm at work, it's about 9 hours. But boy does he run to go out when I get home. He's not crated, he holds it on his own. I come home for lunch almost all of the time, but I miss it every now and then. He's two, and it took him until he was about a year and a half. My 4.5 pounder can hold it, he just doesn't.

There's hope for him!

Whitney

tarpy · 01-31-2007, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarrisFamily

Tarpy-

My twelve pounder can hold it all day while I'm at work, it's about 9 hours. But boy does he run to go out when I get home. He's not crated, he holds it on his own. I come home for lunch almost all of the time, but I miss it every now and then. He's two, and it took him until he was about a year and a half. My 4.5 pounder can hold it, he just doesn't.

There's hope for him!

Whitney

OK, so, quick question, how did you get him to be able to hold it all day...we've tried everything (or rather, everything but the right thing), and we're not sure what to do.

All help is greatly appreciated!

YorkieRose · 01-31-2007, 06:28 PM

For the health of a toy dogs bladder and kidney's, they should not be made to
go longer then 4 hrs without peeing during the day. They need to drink and when they drink they need to pee...I sure would hate for someone to tell me I could pee every 8 hrs.. Get a pen big enough for a pee area...

HarrisFamily · 01-31-2007, 06:48 PM

Hi,

He just started holding it on his own. I used to lock him in the bathroom with potty pads at our old house, we had hardwood floors and didn't want him to ruin them. But now we just leave him loose and he just holds it on his own. I come home almost every day for lunch, so he's usually just holding it for four hours. But every now and then I have to work through lunch or run errands and he holds it just fine.

Try penning him up with potty pads and a bed. Use an X-Pen, or a bathroom, or laundry room. Maybe put his crate with a bed in an x-pen and line the rest with potty pads.

Whitney

Bnot · 01-31-2007, 08:15 PM

Mine is 8 months old. I have a baby gate in my kitchen doorway, and a pee pad in the kitchen. She goes on the pads.

The Target in my city had the gates on clearance last week. Mine looks like jail bars, cause Venus will climb (climbed an x-pen in 2 days flat). She walked right through it. I got some plexyglas at Lowes today, they cut it to the width I wanted. I drilled holes in it, and fastened it to the gate tonight. Works great, and she can't walk through.

I'm not wild about potty pads, but at least she has a "designated area" for times I'm not home. And the kitchen is the largest room, that doesn't have carpet. I feel the bathroom is way too small for her, but that's just my opinion.

When I'm home, she'll go outside and potty with my 6 year old yorkie. I let them out together.

I am retired, so its different for most of you than it is for me.

I just won't crate over 4 hours, unless she's beside the bed I'm sleeping in. Least that way she can wake me to go.

I think many cases are differnt though, and many require differnt things. I know if they kept peeing in the crate, I'd quit crating, and find another method.

sweetr72 · 01-31-2007, 08:49 PM

Is there any way you or a family member could let him have a pee break during the day...8 hours may ALWAYS be too long for him..he may never be able to hold it that long..so there might not be an answer to that. Like someone said here earlier..I cant hold it for 8 hours so I cant expect my 4 pound yorkie to do something I cant. I hope the x-pen or spare room works for you..all that time in a crate during the day and night is just sooooo long for him..can you imagine how it must feel to be in one tiny room for 8 hours and then again for 6 hours...I think you will BOTH be happier when you get him into the bathroom..its a tough situation...good luck!!

Welcome to YT!!

Dawn

puppylove17 · 01-31-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by izzy816

Its a wire gate, made of the same material as the crates. It usually is in the shape of an octagon. Its large enough so they can move around, eat and pee. I put his bed in there too...like a play pen for dogs.

Here is a link where I bought mine from so you can see the picture:

http://www.digitpet.com/product_grou...FQ8TSQodYk6OQg

They are pretty pricey in the pet stores but I managed to get one for a decent price...31.99 for the 24" size.

I would think they could just jump over a 24" one. My furbutts seem to be spring-loaded!

yorkiegirl83 · 01-31-2007, 10:33 PM

8 hours is a long time for a dog with a little bladder to hold it. I have three puppies ages 9 months, 7 months and 3 months. The 9 and 7 month old can hold it a lot longer than they used to.. but I still take them out about every 2 hours.. I think that's only fair. My littlest goes out every 1/2 hour if she's running around and playing. At night I usually have to take her out once around 3 or 4 am or she'll jump out of bed and pee.

I use an XPEN for all 3 when I'm not home which is a rarity. I can fit TWO dog beds, food, water, and toys and they still have plenty of space to lounge and to play. Emma and Lula can jump out if they really want to, but usually don't if they're home alone.

Just a note.. I used to leave them in the kitchen w/a baby gate and stopped because they were eating all the woodwork... if your pup has any chewing tendancies I wouldn't leave them w/access to the molding... just my opinion.

Good luck!

izzy816 · 02-01-2007, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puppylove17

I would think they could just jump over a 24" one. My furbutts seem to be spring-loaded!

Oh don't I know!

He is too, that is why I decided to only use the ex pen when Im there. If I do leave him in it while Im out of the house its for a very short period of time.

Other than that, he is in the bedroom.

01-31-2007, 01:12 PM	#17
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	the kitchen sounds pretty good.. good luck... he will be more a happy boy... __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

01-31-2007, 06:28 PM	#20
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	training For the health of a toy dogs bladder and kidney's, they should not be made to go longer then 4 hrs without peeing during the day. They need to drink and when they drink they need to pee...I sure would hate for someone to tell me I could pee every 8 hrs.. Get a pen big enough for a pee area...

01-31-2007, 04:58 PM	#18
HarrisFamily Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 227	Tarpy- My twelve pounder can hold it all day while I'm at work, it's about 9 hours. But boy does he run to go out when I get home. He's not crated, he holds it on his own. I come home for lunch almost all of the time, but I miss it every now and then. He's two, and it took him until he was about a year and a half. My 4.5 pounder can hold it, he just doesn't. There's hope for him! Whitney

01-31-2007, 06:48 PM	#21
HarrisFamily Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 227	Hi, He just started holding it on his own. I used to lock him in the bathroom with potty pads at our old house, we had hardwood floors and didn't want him to ruin them. But now we just leave him loose and he just holds it on his own. I come home almost every day for lunch, so he's usually just holding it for four hours. But every now and then I have to work through lunch or run errands and he holds it just fine. Try penning him up with potty pads and a bed. Use an X-Pen, or a bathroom, or laundry room. Maybe put his crate with a bed in an x-pen and line the rest with potty pads. Whitney

01-31-2007, 08:15 PM	#22
Bnot YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mobile AL Posts: 1,399	Mine is 8 months old. I have a baby gate in my kitchen doorway, and a pee pad in the kitchen. She goes on the pads. The Target in my city had the gates on clearance last week. Mine looks like jail bars, cause Venus will climb (climbed an x-pen in 2 days flat). She walked right through it. I got some plexyglas at Lowes today, they cut it to the width I wanted. I drilled holes in it, and fastened it to the gate tonight. Works great, and she can't walk through. I'm not wild about potty pads, but at least she has a "designated area" for times I'm not home. And the kitchen is the largest room, that doesn't have carpet. I feel the bathroom is way too small for her, but that's just my opinion. When I'm home, she'll go outside and potty with my 6 year old yorkie. I let them out together. I am retired, so its different for most of you than it is for me. I just won't crate over 4 hours, unless she's beside the bed I'm sleeping in. Least that way she can wake me to go. I think many cases are differnt though, and many require differnt things. I know if they kept peeing in the crate, I'd quit crating, and find another method.

01-31-2007, 08:49 PM	#23
sweetr72 No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,111	Is there any way you or a family member could let him have a pee break during the day...8 hours may ALWAYS be too long for him..he may never be able to hold it that long..so there might not be an answer to that. Like someone said here earlier..I cant hold it for 8 hours so I cant expect my 4 pound yorkie to do something I cant. I hope the x-pen or spare room works for you..all that time in a crate during the day and night is just sooooo long for him..can you imagine how it must feel to be in one tiny room for 8 hours and then again for 6 hours...I think you will BOTH be happier when you get him into the bathroom..its a tough situation...good luck!! Welcome to YT!! Dawn

01-31-2007, 10:33 PM	#25
yorkiegirl83 Love My Furbabies! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 4,427	8 hours is a long time for a dog with a little bladder to hold it. I have three puppies ages 9 months, 7 months and 3 months. The 9 and 7 month old can hold it a lot longer than they used to.. but I still take them out about every 2 hours.. I think that's only fair. My littlest goes out every 1/2 hour if she's running around and playing. At night I usually have to take her out once around 3 or 4 am or she'll jump out of bed and pee. I use an XPEN for all 3 when I'm not home which is a rarity. I can fit TWO dog beds, food, water, and toys and they still have plenty of space to lounge and to play. Emma and Lula can jump out if they really want to, but usually don't if they're home alone. Just a note.. I used to leave them in the kitchen w/a baby gate and stopped because they were eating all the woodwork... if your pup has any chewing tendancies I wouldn't leave them w/access to the molding... just my opinion. Good luck!