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Gingergirlsmom · 08-19-2006, 05:44 AM

When I first saw your post, I was so upset, that I didn't want to say too much for fear of being out of line.

But, in the light of day, with time to think on this, I still feel the same way. The breeder was responsible for the care of you pup and she was negligent. Period. The pup should have been in a carrier or on a leash. At a minimum, she is repsonsible for any cost you incur and for giving you a new pup (if and when you decide what you want).

None of this changes the fact that you are going through a terrible time right now. My heart breaks just thinking about what you're going through. Please use this forum as you must to help you grieve. We'll be here. If you need to post more pics, or rant, or tell stories, or do nothing, the great thing about YT, is we'll be here.

Again hugs and prayers coming your way...

Momofone · 08-19-2006, 05:53 AM

Thanks everyone. I didn't sleep much last night. It was a rough night.

snickers mom · 08-19-2006, 05:53 AM

and i'm so sorry for your loss i can't imagine
for one it was an accident i am sure but regardless the puppy was in her care she should assume responsiblity and the kind and human thing to do woudl be to wait a bit... or at least rephrase... and then possibly offer you the option of a future pup from another litter if and or when you are ready

the only thing i could possibly say in her defense... is that death is a funny thing and alot of times ppl are at a loss of the "right" thing to say
my co-workers husband passed away and it took me weeks to approach her and tell her i was sorry for her loss... and i cried
its a hard thing some pple can't deal or dont know what to say
BUt... if that wasnt the case here... then she was out of line and i would be upset too

i am so sorry for your loss i can't imagine... take time to heal and everyone is here for you

yorkieusa · 08-19-2006, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Momofone

Thanks everyone. I didn't sleep much last night. It was a rough night.

I knew you'd have a rough time sleeping. All I can say is that I know you are heartbroken and the only thing I ever found to half way help was to try to keep busy after the initial shock wore off. We're all different, though. Hugs to you.

dizpatch · 08-19-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Momofone

Thanks so much for understanding. I am crying so hard right now.

I am mad. I am pissed. Dixie never got out of my arms. Never. We never had a problem with her getting loose from us. I was upset, and tried to be understanding, but I will be honest, I am so so mad. But I also do understand accidents can happen, but I am still floored that she mentioned selling me another pup. (for half off)

She was my baby! And she is gone. And won't come back. I can't deal with that. Why did this happen?

I am so sorry for your loss.
I understand some of the feelings that you are going through. In July my Phoebe passed away. The vet that saw her was not my regular vet and I must admit to you that when I think of him the first thing that comes to my mind is Dr. Death. I have moved beyond some of the feelings, but the loss does not leave.

Allow yourself the time to grieve.
When YOU are ready then go back and talk to the breeder/puppysitter, explain to her that you left your baby in her care and she was totally responsible for her safety and well being while in her care and that she needs to provide you at no cost or expense to you, with a new puppy.
I would hope that she was just so devastated and just did not know what to do or say but the wrong thing came out.
If she chooses, to not replace your baby at her cost, then I would share your story in your town.
She is in the business of puppysitting and also selling puppies. Reputation is everything!

You mentioned you probably would not stay on YT because of the pain, for me YT helped me get through, when my friends and even some family(not household) could not understand why I was still struggling. People here understand and are very supportive.
Phoebe has been gone now for 5 weeks and I still cry, I still wonder if my vet had seen her would the out come have been different.
Everyone knows I have good days and bad days. It is no different than losing human. No matter what other people think.

My prayers are with you.

Highlans · 08-19-2006, 08:22 AM

How terrible so sorry for your loss.
I would say she is negligent even if she was carrying your furby why did she not use a lead?? She should offer you another when you are ready.

Highlans · 08-19-2006, 08:26 AM

P.S I agree with murial stay on yt I lost Rob in Jan this year and coming on to yorkie talk has been a great help in coming to terms with loosing a much loved furbie.

Connie · 08-19-2006, 08:43 AM

I am so very sorry to hear this tragic news. My heart just aches for you. After being away from her for a while, you must have been so anxious and excited to see her, hug her and love her and then you get a phone call saying she's gone! You poor thing. I wish there was something I could do or say to make it easier, but all I can do is tell you I care and I'll be thinking of you and praying for you.

As for that breeder, she was negligent by letting this happen. I know accidents happen in the blink of an eye, but you had provided a carrier and she should have used it. I'm sure she's just sick over this, but she should not have offered another pup for half price. She should, when the time is right for you, offer you another pup free of charge.

I'm so sorry for your loss of Dixie. What a little doll she was and I only wish we could turn back time and she was okay and home with you. Big hugs to you.

Momofone · 08-19-2006, 11:23 AM

Thanks everyone. I agree, just coming here has been a huge help for me, so I will continue to do so. I just can't look at the pictures! I may take my avatar down. I just don't know. My sweet baby is gone!

I posted this on another board:

We talked to her today (the breeder) and she said she will provide us a new dog in the next two years? I don't know. She said she is writing something up and will send it to us. I won't sign anything though. I will probably take it to my attorney as soon as I get it. I am NOT a sue happy person, please know that. We own rental houses, so we have an attorney we use a lot for those (not for suing, just for general stuff) and I know he would be glad to look at the agreement for me.

She did say she will give us a "credit" of $1500 for the dog, which I am not too keen on. What if she ups her price of yorkies to $2500? Well, then I would still owe her $1000. I don't want to do that.

Bottom line, Dixie isn't coming back. She is gone forever. She can't make it up to me with another dog, or a credit, or whatever...

She also mentioned to Ryan that "even though she wasn't legally responsible, she would still do this for us." Um, ok lady. Talk to my lawyer about that one. I was PAYING her to take care of my dog. I trusted her more than my friends and neighbors. And she failed me. She failed Dixie. She failed my daughter. We aren't arguing with her at this point because I don't want to start an all out war. I just want Dixie back. And no one can do that for me.

4Dogs · 08-19-2006, 11:42 AM

I am so very, very sorry for your loss. May your beautiful baby be at peace and I know you will always keep her safe with in your heart - God Bless!

The Breeder/Pet Sitter should be liable for all costs for burial/cemation and when the time is right be ready to allow you to choice a new furbaby from a future litter at no cost to you. Yes, accidents happen but even in no-fault claims - someone has to pay. Aren't reputable pet sitters bonded for such situations? (Sorry don't mean to be insensative but her day just goes on while you are left so shattered.)

JMO.

IluvLucy · 08-19-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Momofone

These are a few pics of her. I just had to share. Hope that is ok.

Oh my God, what a beautiful baby! I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how you feel, just please accept my sincere sympathy.

Kim & Lucy

Keebler · 08-19-2006, 11:50 AM

Im soo sorry for your loss. I cant imagine how hard this is for you. IMO I think that it was a terrible accident, but I dont think you should pay 1/2 price for a pup. I think she should just let you have one... when the time is right for you. Hugs to you.

YorkieRose · 08-19-2006, 11:53 AM

I am so sorry...please take time to mourn and then I know you will want another Yorkie, most do.
Sorry folks, I fault the breeder for using poor judgement. I had a few clients who did not drive and I picked up their Yorks for grooming/boarding..ALL with no exceptions were placed in a crate at my door and taken out once inside the owners home...I have had a number of pet owners tell me their pet was not crate trained..no problem..a barking dog never bothered me in the car..LOL

True, she may not be legally responsible..but I feel she is ethically responsible. She offers a professional service without using professional guidelines...

yorkieusa · 08-19-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I am so sorry...please take time to mourn and then I know you will want another Yorkie, most do.
Sorry folks, I fault the breeder for using poor judgement. I had a few clients who did not drive and I picked up their Yorks for grooming/boarding..ALL with no exceptions were placed in a crate at my door and taken out once inside the owners home...I have had a number of pet owners tell me their pet was not crate trained..no problem..a barking dog never bothered me in the car..LOL

True, she may not be legally responsible..but I feel she is ethically responsible. She offers a professional service without using professional guidelines...

Ditto...

MaxiesMom · 08-19-2006, 01:24 PM

Basically I agree with what everyone has said, including do stay on YT.

I think (at least I hope) that in the end, the breeder will come forward and do the right thing

As for you, I am very very sorry for your loss. Its truly like losing a child. I will tell you that you have taught me a valuable lesson to always make sure my Max is leashed or in a carrier whenever I am near the street.

I am praying for you and hope that the memory of your sweet baby stays with you and helps you smile.

I personally think you did the right thing keeping her memory alive instead of going to see her after the accident. You will always remember her jumping and playing.

God bless you

Sharon

08-19-2006, 05:44 AM	#46
Gingergirlsmom and Bernie's mom too!" Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 8,283	When I first saw your post, I was so upset, that I didn't want to say too much for fear of being out of line. But, in the light of day, with time to think on this, I still feel the same way. The breeder was responsible for the care of you pup and she was negligent. Period. The pup should have been in a carrier or on a leash. At a minimum, she is repsonsible for any cost you incur and for giving you a new pup (if and when you decide what you want). None of this changes the fact that you are going through a terrible time right now. My heart breaks just thinking about what you're going through. Please use this forum as you must to help you grieve. We'll be here. If you need to post more pics, or rant, or tell stories, or do nothing, the great thing about YT, is we'll be here. Again hugs and prayers coming your way... __________________ Ginger Bernie Fun Kitty

08-19-2006, 05:53 AM	#48
snickers mom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 687	i just saw this thread.. and i'm so sorry for your loss i can't imagine for one it was an accident i am sure but regardless the puppy was in her care she should assume responsiblity and the kind and human thing to do woudl be to wait a bit... or at least rephrase... and then possibly offer you the option of a future pup from another litter if and or when you are ready the only thing i could possibly say in her defense... is that death is a funny thing and alot of times ppl are at a loss of the "right" thing to say my co-workers husband passed away and it took me weeks to approach her and tell her i was sorry for her loss... and i cried its a hard thing some pple can't deal or dont know what to say BUt... if that wasnt the case here... then she was out of line and i would be upset too i am so sorry for your loss i can't imagine... take time to heal and everyone is here for you

08-19-2006, 08:22 AM	#51
Highlans Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berkshire England Posts: 191	How terrible so sorry for your loss. I would say she is negligent even if she was carrying your furby why did she not use a lead?? She should offer you another when you are ready. __________________ Click for Robbie! Robbie exhausted on holiday

08-19-2006, 08:26 AM	#52
Highlans Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berkshire England Posts: 191	P.S I agree with murial stay on yt I lost Rob in Jan this year and coming on to yorkie talk has been a great help in coming to terms with loosing a much loved furbie. __________________ Click for Robbie! Robbie exhausted on holiday

08-19-2006, 08:43 AM	#53
Connie Loved by Maddie & Libby Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 10,732	I am so very sorry to hear this tragic news. My heart just aches for you. After being away from her for a while, you must have been so anxious and excited to see her, hug her and love her and then you get a phone call saying she's gone! You poor thing. I wish there was something I could do or say to make it easier, but all I can do is tell you I care and I'll be thinking of you and praying for you. As for that breeder, she was negligent by letting this happen. I know accidents happen in the blink of an eye, but you had provided a carrier and she should have used it. I'm sure she's just sick over this, but she should not have offered another pup for half price. She should, when the time is right for you, offer you another pup free of charge. I'm so sorry for your loss of Dixie. What a little doll she was and I only wish we could turn back time and she was okay and home with you. Big hugs to you. __________________ Custom doggie dresses and vests Memory is a country where I can go to see your face - but where do I go when I miss your embrace?

08-19-2006, 05:53 AM	#47
Momofone Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 33	Thanks everyone. I didn't sleep much last night. It was a rough night.

08-19-2006, 11:23 AM	#54
Momofone Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 33	Thanks everyone. I agree, just coming here has been a huge help for me, so I will continue to do so. I just can't look at the pictures! I may take my avatar down. I just don't know. My sweet baby is gone! I posted this on another board: We talked to her today (the breeder) and she said she will provide us a new dog in the next two years? I don't know. She said she is writing something up and will send it to us. I won't sign anything though. I will probably take it to my attorney as soon as I get it. I am NOT a sue happy person, please know that. We own rental houses, so we have an attorney we use a lot for those (not for suing, just for general stuff) and I know he would be glad to look at the agreement for me. She did say she will give us a "credit" of $1500 for the dog, which I am not too keen on. What if she ups her price of yorkies to $2500? Well, then I would still owe her $1000. I don't want to do that. Bottom line, Dixie isn't coming back. She is gone forever. She can't make it up to me with another dog, or a credit, or whatever... She also mentioned to Ryan that "even though she wasn't legally responsible, she would still do this for us." Um, ok lady. Talk to my lawyer about that one. I was PAYING her to take care of my dog. I trusted her more than my friends and neighbors. And she failed me. She failed Dixie. She failed my daughter. We aren't arguing with her at this point because I don't want to start an all out war. I just want Dixie back. And no one can do that for me.

08-19-2006, 11:42 AM	#55
4Dogs YT Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 351	I am so very, very sorry for your loss. May your beautiful baby be at peace and I know you will always keep her safe with in your heart - God Bless! The Breeder/Pet Sitter should be liable for all costs for burial/cemation and when the time is right be ready to allow you to choice a new furbaby from a future litter at no cost to you. Yes, accidents happen but even in no-fault claims - someone has to pay. Aren't reputable pet sitters bonded for such situations? (Sorry don't mean to be insensative but her day just goes on while you are left so shattered.) JMO. __________________ Loved by Roxy, Ruby & Bonnie Prince Charlie Robbie Piper Socrates,Sarah & Sam

08-19-2006, 11:50 AM	#57
Keebler Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 151	Im soo sorry for your loss. I cant imagine how hard this is for you. IMO I think that it was a terrible accident, but I dont think you should pay 1/2 price for a pup. I think she should just let you have one... when the time is right for you. Hugs to you. __________________ Fun Pics Of Meg http://www.flipdrive.com/photoalbum....2fd56ac35797b9

08-19-2006, 11:53 AM	#58
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	pup I am so sorry...please take time to mourn and then I know you will want another Yorkie, most do. Sorry folks, I fault the breeder for using poor judgement. I had a few clients who did not drive and I picked up their Yorks for grooming/boarding..ALL with no exceptions were placed in a crate at my door and taken out once inside the owners home...I have had a number of pet owners tell me their pet was not crate trained..no problem..a barking dog never bothered me in the car..LOL True, she may not be legally responsible..but I feel she is ethically responsible. She offers a professional service without using professional guidelines... Last edited by YorkieRose; 08-19-2006 at 11:57 AM.

08-19-2006, 01:24 PM	#60
MaxiesMom Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 94	Basically I agree with what everyone has said, including do stay on YT. I think (at least I hope) that in the end, the breeder will come forward and do the right thing As for you, I am very very sorry for your loss. Its truly like losing a child. I will tell you that you have taught me a valuable lesson to always make sure my Max is leashed or in a carrier whenever I am near the street. I am praying for you and hope that the memory of your sweet baby stays with you and helps you smile. I personally think you did the right thing keeping her memory alive instead of going to see her after the accident. You will always remember her jumping and playing. God bless you Sharon