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Old 04-04-2012, 07:12 AM   #1
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Default Weird issue with Brandi

This has happened several times and I even rushed her to the emergency vet twice because of it.

Basically what happens is Brandi gets extremely uncomfortable. You can tell she is in some sort of discomfort. She can't lay still for 5 minutes. This can last hours at a time and it comes and goes. It usually happens every few months. Last night it happen and it took her about 4 hours to finally relax. When this happened in the past I would rush her to the vet but they can't find anything that is wrong with her.

Now here's is the weird part. Whatever is going on, it does not interfer with her appetite (whatever she is going through does not bother her enough to stop eating), she is not lethargic, her gums and tongue are okay and she is not dehydrated. No diarhea and urine looks okay. I have had tests run on her and she has been to the vet several times because of this but they can't find anything. She is not in any physical pain to the touch. She is not exhibiting any other signs other than the inability to rest.

It's like when you are nauseated and you constantly tossing and turning trying to find a position that will alleviate your nausea. That's what Brandi is goes through. If anybody has any clue as to what is going please let me know. If there are any suggestions that I can talked to my vet about it would help greatly. The next time this happens I am going to get a video of it. By the way she is 12 yrs old.
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Is she spayed? Did the vet run any bloodwork on her?
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Yes she is spayed and they have run bloodwork on her several times with the last one done in November for her dental surgery. And each time nothing comes up. I also should mention that she has recurring urinary tract infections. The last one was in January for which she was on antibiotics for a month. The vet said it was cleared up after doing a urine analyst.

I got Brandi at 7 yrs old, she was basically used for breeding and horribly neglected. When I got her I got her spayed and the vet said something curiuous after her spay....it was something about having to wrap something around in her stomach. Apparently Brandi had had several C sections. This was several years ago so I don't remember the exact terminolgy. Beyond her recurring urinary tract infections and these "episodes" Brandi shows no other symptoms of anything being wrong. She is just as active with a healthy appetite.

I hate it when she goes through this because I feel so helpless. I just want her to open her mouth and tell me what is wrong. I've research bloat and every sypmton but I can't find anything on the internet. Everything I've research suggest she has an upset tummy which may be true because this is the only time she will eat grass. If is an upset tummy what can i do to alleviate her suffering?
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Does she get any chews of any kind? (Bully sticks, rawhide, etc.) Any table food?

Has she had a Bile Acid Test? (test for Liver function) Recurring UTIs and inability to settle are two symptoms of a Liver disorder. Not commonly seen in older dogs but it does happen.

If she looks bloated after a meal, you can try holding her upright, (sitting up on your lap). If she's having a gas problem, this position helps to expel the gas from the gut. Left to their own devices, this problem may result in vomiting the meal, bc the gas can't get around the food to come out. Being upright allows the gas to bypass the food and the dog will burp.
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Does she get any chews of any kind? (Bully sticks, rawhide, etc.) Any table food?

Has she had a Bile Acid Test? (test for Liver function) Recurring UTIs and inability to settle are two symptoms of a Liver disorder. Not commonly seen in older dogs but it does happen.

If she looks bloated after a meal, you can try holding her upright, (sitting up on your lap). If she's having a gas problem, this position helps to expel the gas from the gut. Left to their own devices, this problem may result in vomiting the meal, bc the gas can't get around the food to come out. Being upright allows the gas to bypass the food and the dog will burp.

No she hasn't had a bile acid test. I will ask the vet about it at our next appointment. Also she has never vomited during this spells. So far it's just the inability to settle down. I will definitely be asking my vet to do a Bile acid test on her. Thanks
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I am wondering if she may have some gas pockets in her tummy and her moving around is helping the gas pass?
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I am wondering if she may have some gas pockets in her tummy and her moving around is helping the gas pass?

I don't think she is passing gas or at least I never smell anything. She will however have the occassional poop but it's not diarhhea, it's firm. If it is gas, is there something I can give her to alleviate or help her pass the gas? I hate seeing her in so much discomfort.
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I don't think she is passing gas or at least I never smell anything. She will however have the occassional poop but it's not diarhhea, it's firm. If it is gas, is there something I can give her to alleviate or help her pass the gas? I hate seeing her in so much discomfort.
LOL Gas doesn't always have a smell. It's like air or gas bubbles built up in the tummy. I did have one that had that problem, Per my Vet's advice and the correct dosage that the Vet told me to use. We used the Infant Gas Drops that had the Simethicone in it. The way we found out was we did an abdominal x-ray that showed the gas/air in her system.
Do not just go out and buy the drops with out asking your Vet and seeing what they have to say. Has she had a tummy x-ray done at those times you took her in?
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No she hasn't just blood work. I will also ask about x-rays in addition to the bile acid test. Thanks for the info.

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Brandi's farts can stink up the whole house when she does fart that's why I was like I don't smell anything.
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Rylee has had similar episodes, in fact very recently. It's exactly like you said.......like she is nauseated or something. They have never lasted long and she also usually eats anyway although usually less. I traced her problem to the food she was eating and also certain chew sticks. I recently started her on a grain free diet and stopped the chew sticks. So far it is one of the best decisions I have ever made! I know how hard it is to see your baby in discomfort...........good luck and please keep us posted! By the way, my Chihuahua does the same thing!
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She could be having a spinal or neck issue. I have had many with spinal issues & when examined by the vet, nothing was found.
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I didn't see your post until now...after you posted in the General forum. I am sorry your Brandi is going through this...and especially since the vet has not been able to find anything.

I have read through your thread now, but I do not see any mention of the vet checking for stones...bloodwork doesn't always show them unless urine test positive for blood, etc. DH's kidney stones were discovered by other means in the ER...not from bloodwork...but, from the description of her discomfort it sounds like how DH was acting when he was having kidney stones. He was in no discomfort UNTIL the stones moved and blocked fluid flow...then he was very uncomfortable, wriggling and just couldn't keep still. Depending on how thoroughly blocked the passages were, he would be up and about...just uncomfortable, or if really plugged up by a larger stone, he'd be in bed with pain killers.

I see that she has recurrent UTI's. I am not certain about kidney stones in dogs, I know they get them but not sure of what symptoms they have, but I know of other dogs that have recently had bladder stones removed...all of whom had recurrent UTI's but some of them had no symptoms and the stones were discovered by other means.

Has the vet check her for stones? If you have not heard of the benefits of coconut oil, you might want to check it out if she has stones. Coconut oil is very nutritious and dogs love it. You'd want the organic virgin (not from COPRA) coconut oil, though.

I hope they are able to determine the cause of her discomfort. {{Hugs}}
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I would ask about the infant gas drops too. My Riggie had similar episodes. We think she had a chronic pancreatitis, and she was tested for a miriad of things, but nothing deffinative. The Simethecone drops helped, and switching to a low fat food also helped. We also discovered a chicken allergy, and switching off of chicken solved everything.
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I didn't see your post until now...after you posted in the General forum. I am sorry your Brandi is going through this...and especially since the vet has not been able to find anything.

I have read through your thread now, but I do not see any mention of the vet checking for stones...bloodwork doesn't always show them unless urine test positive for blood, etc. DH's kidney stones were discovered by other means in the ER...not from bloodwork...but, from the description of her discomfort it sounds like how DH was acting when he was having kidney stones. He was in no discomfort UNTIL the stones moved and blocked fluid flow...then he was very uncomfortable, wriggling and just couldn't keep still. Depending on how thoroughly blocked the passages were, he would be up and about...just uncomfortable, or if really plugged up by a larger stone, he'd be in bed with pain killers.

I see that she has recurrent UTI's. I am not certain about kidney stones in dogs, I know they get them but not sure of what symptoms they have, but I know of other dogs that have recently had bladder stones removed...all of whom had recurrent UTI's but some of them had no symptoms and the stones were discovered by other means.

Has the vet check her for stones? If you have not heard of the benefits of coconut oil, you might want to check it out if she has stones. Coconut oil is very nutritious and dogs love it. You'd want the organic virgin (not from COPRA) coconut oil, though.

I hope they are able to determine the cause of her discomfort. {{Hugs}}
That is exactly what I was thinking but I can't imagine a vet not being able to think of it so I just don't know. Hopefully this next visit will turn up something that can be dealt with. Good luck!
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