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DvlshAngel985 · 07-12-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AddieandMiaMom

I have to agree with Tnyorkiemom. I've read through the entire thread and just feel horrible for OP. The most advice she's getting is that she must give this pregnant dog up and/or spay her now, killing the unborn puppies.

Sorry if I'm stepping on any toes here, but I think it's pretty clear she wants to keep the momma dog, and wants to do what she can to help her through this pregnancy. Yes, it can end horribly, but it can also end with a healthy mom and three puppies, too. The best thing might be to just give what advice can be given to her so she can get the momma through this and help the babies thrive once they are here, IMHO.

She did take in the dog, and it does seem like it wasn't taken care of properly before (ie, teeth missing, not spayed in the first place). I think she wants to do the right thing, but without aborting the pups.

I was the first person to suggest rescue. That's all I did, SUGGEST IT! This pregnancy is a high risk case and in every conversation I had with her, I told her there is no pressure. I told her to take her time and ask as many questions here and to the rescue people privately as they shared their information with her. I gave her options. Bottom line, no one wants to see anyone hurt, neither physically or emotionally.

Edited to add: There are also breeders who responded to this thread, and gave her information just as you suggested. From the advice given by experienced breeders it sounds bad and the odds are against the momma dog. Yes, it can end beautifully, but really would you gamble just because you want to keep a dog?

Rhetts_mama · 07-12-2010, 12:53 PM

Maybe I'm reading things differently than the last 2 posters, but when someone comes on saying they are overwhelmed and people offer resources I don't consider that mean.

She was offered some very good advice by people who are extremely experienced in both breeding and rescues. I fully understand not wanting to abort the pups- I wouldn't want to do that either. But alerting the OP to the high likelihood of this particular pup requiring a C/S is neither rude, mean or inappropriate. It is giving information that could very well save the life of both the mother and the pups. This isn't the time for hurt feelings when there are 4 lives at stake.

Woogie Man · 07-12-2010, 03:39 PM

I don't see anywhere that the OP was 'jumped' on. Maybe you could point it out. Actually, I saw many people thanking the OP for rescuing this little one from going to the pound.

That being said, this is a very high risk pregnancy that would be a challenge for experienced breeders, let alone a novice like the OP. Even if this baby can somehow deliver the pups, there is still much to be done in caring for them. It is a big commitment of time, money and dedication for at least 3 months.....which the OP hasn't indicated she has to give. Also, I think her vet is not recognizing the inherent risks with such a pregnancy, and that worries me, too.

I have never before recommended rescue to anyone, but I think in this case it is the best advice to give the OP. I think anyone offering advice would be negligent in not suggesting rescue, given all the specifics of this case. IMO, it's the only responsible advice to give. Remember, this is not her dog, but one that she has just taken in. It is a huge responsibility to just step in to. If she were the owner of this dog and had a skilled small breed vet working with her, I might offer different advice but you have to look at the total picture here.

Are some of you advising a non-breeder to take on the risks and responsibility of seeing a 3 pound Yorkie through a pregnancy and caring for these very tiny pups with little preparation? I certainly hope not.

miabellaamoure · 07-12-2010, 04:10 PM

There has been no harsh anything occurring in this thread but, offerings of help & assistance...all without even the courtesy of reply by the OP.

In fact, the generous assistance offered to OP has been BOTH from Breeders & Rescue ...

...so, she had a choice...she chose neither.

ladyjane · 07-12-2010, 04:14 PM

All I can say is: same stuff, different thread

Give someone good advice and someone comes along and says people are mean. I thought the PP had retired.

I will pray for this momma dog...sounds like she is going to need all of our prayers.

miabellaamoure · 07-12-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

All I can say is: same stuff, different thread

Give someone good advice and someone comes along and says people are mean. I thought the PP had retired.

I will pray for this momma dog...sounds like she is going to need all of our prayers.

You got that right...

DvlshAngel985 · 07-12-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

All I can say is: same stuff, different thread

Give someone good advice and someone comes along and says people are mean. I thought the PP had retired.

I will pray for this momma dog...sounds like she is going to need all of our prayers.

Tell me about it.

miabellaamoure · 07-12-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AddieandMiaMom

I have to agree with Tnyorkiemom. I've read through the entire thread and just feel horrible for OP. The most advice she's getting is that she must give this pregnant dog up and/or spay her now, killing the unborn puppies.

Sorry if I'm stepping on any toes here, but I think it's pretty clear she wants to keep the momma dog, and wants to do what she can to help her through this pregnancy. Yes, it can end horribly, but it can also end with a healthy mom and three puppies, too. The best thing might be to just give what advice can be given to her so she can get the momma through this and help the babies thrive once they are here, IMHO.

She did take in the dog, and it does seem like it wasn't taken care of properly before (ie, teeth missing, not spayed in the first place). I think she wants to do the right thing, but without aborting the pups.

Just for the record this was never advised by any reputable Breeder or Rescue in this thread.

ladyjane · 07-12-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TALINA86

I just got off the phone with her past owner, they say she was never around any other dogs the only other dog she has ever been around is another teacup yorkie, this dog belongs to their daughter but he is too young, only 7 months old. Could he have fathered her puppies, I know they used to take really good care of her, she was never on the street or anything they spent a lot of money one her before the economy got the way it did. they say they are 100% that the puppies were fathered by the teacup yorkie which is only 2.5 lbs my guess is that they probably bred them on purpose and never expected to be homeless. my boyfriend took her to the vet they say she's perfectly healthy and only shows 3 very small puppies, he said she might need a little assistance during birth but only if she has trouble cutting the cord and such. I'm soo relieved but please if you or anyone you know have any recomendations please let me know. I dont know how I always get into these things people always call me asking me to help rescue dogs, the only thing is I dont have that much money, I mean vet care is no problem my dads best friend is a vet and sometimes doesnt even charge me. But I need to buy other stuff also if anyone has blankets or anything their babies dont use anymore please let me know... BTW Compton is a city in Los angeles, I no longer live their i live closer to the LAX in Gardena!
thanks everyone.

Please read that and tell me it makes sense for the OP to keep this pup and let her have these puppies.

Rescue....is NOT taking in pups you cannot afford. I am sorry, but if this makes me mean, I will proudly wear the mean tag yet again.

I am speaking the truth ... sometimes people don't like the truth.

If this pup needs a c-section is the vet guaranteeing free vet care? and also for the pups if they are in need? I surely hope so! Clearly the OP cannot afford the care if she is asking for used blankets.

miabellaamoure · 07-12-2010, 04:26 PM

For those pointing that finger around here...try doing a little research on this OP first.

If you did, you'd see that she has a history of soliciting YT members for assistance and not just for advise & moral support either.

Cares4Dogs · 07-12-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

For those pointing that finger around here...try doing a little research on this OP first.

If you did, you'd see that she has a history of soliciting YT members for assistance and not just for advise & moral support either.

Thanks Ladyjane and Miabella. What really concerns me is even if this momma didnt have to have a c-section, how is she going to afford supplemental feedings if she cant afford any puppy supplies?

There are very many kind hearted people out there who want to help, but if your not really bettering the situation, then why take on this responsibility?? You have to ask yourself who are you really helping?? yourself?? or the momma and puppies??

If the OP wants to try to raise these babies then she needs whelping supplies and all of the other things to raise puppies but she doesnt have the money to..a blanket shouldnt be her concern here cuz any old clean blankets would do. Her concern shouldnt be puppy supplies at all...it should be about whelping supplies, healthy meals for mooma and things necessary to sustain life for the pups!!!

TALINA86 · 07-13-2010, 07:36 AM

Hello Again everyone,

Let me begin by thanking the ones that really offered their help rather than attack me, My decision have been made and momma dog is doing perfectly fine, I just wanted it to make it clear to everyone that by no means I am trying to take advatage of anyone here on yorkietalk by asking for supplies, oh and for the record CARES4DOGS I didnt just recently had a litter the 1 puppy my dogs had is almost 6 months old. Oh and about me getting my dogs for free yes it did happen I was lucky enough to come across someone that could no longer keep him Me making the decision to breed hims is my business their is no need to judge. Dont worry everyone My little pixie is very well taken care of she going to the vet once a weeks for follow up. The vet will be taking her in the last week of her pregnancy, after that he will have her fixed, he really did offer me help he will care for her during whelping and return her after the puppies are 2 weeks old.

I have been greatly disapointed with the yorkietalk members I'm sorry for taking anyones time but this will be my last post here on yorkietalk, If someone really cares to know send me a PM and i will send u my email address

TALINA86 · 07-13-2010, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TALINA86

Hello Again everyone,

Let me begin by thanking the ones that really offered their help rather than attack me, My decision have been made and momma dog is doing perfectly fine, I just wanted it to make it clear to everyone that by no means I am trying to take advatage of anyone here on yorkietalk by asking for supplies, oh and for the record CARES4DOGS I didnt just recently had a litter the 1 puppy my dogs had is almost 6 months old. Oh and about me getting my dogs for free yes it did happen I was lucky enough to come across someone that could no longer keep him Me making the decision to breed hims is my business their is no need to judge. Dont worry everyone My little pixie is very well taken care of she going to the vet once a weeks for follow up. The vet will be taking her in the last week of her pregnancy, after that he will have her fixed, he really did offer me help he will care for her during whelping and return her after the puppies are 2 weeks old.

I have been greatly disapointed with the yorkietalk members I'm sorry for taking anyones time but this will be my last post here on yorkietalk, If someone really cares to know send me a PM and i will send u my email address

Sorry I meant to say "about me getting my dog" not dogs the only free one has been my male!!!

Rachael x · 07-13-2010, 07:48 AM

Thats horrible to hear

I hope you can find her a loving home to go to and have her pups x

Cares4Dogs · 07-13-2010, 07:59 AM

I wasnt trying to be rude or ugly. I was concerned about how you were going to pay for the necessities to raise the puppies because you said couldnt afford anything.

I think its great (or rather awesome) your vet is taking her in for 3 weeks. When is she due? Do you know how many she is having?

07-12-2010, 12:53 PM	#62
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	Maybe I'm reading things differently than the last 2 posters, but when someone comes on saying they are overwhelmed and people offer resources I don't consider that mean. She was offered some very good advice by people who are extremely experienced in both breeding and rescues. I fully understand not wanting to abort the pups- I wouldn't want to do that either. But alerting the OP to the high likelihood of this particular pup requiring a C/S is neither rude, mean or inappropriate. It is giving information that could very well save the life of both the mother and the pups. This isn't the time for hurt feelings when there are 4 lives at stake. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

07-12-2010, 03:39 PM	#63
Woogie Man Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,564	I don't see anywhere that the OP was 'jumped' on. Maybe you could point it out. Actually, I saw many people thanking the OP for rescuing this little one from going to the pound. That being said, this is a very high risk pregnancy that would be a challenge for experienced breeders, let alone a novice like the OP. Even if this baby can somehow deliver the pups, there is still much to be done in caring for them. It is a big commitment of time, money and dedication for at least 3 months.....which the OP hasn't indicated she has to give. Also, I think her vet is not recognizing the inherent risks with such a pregnancy, and that worries me, too. I have never before recommended rescue to anyone, but I think in this case it is the best advice to give the OP. I think anyone offering advice would be negligent in not suggesting rescue, given all the specifics of this case. IMO, it's the only responsible advice to give. Remember, this is not her dog, but one that she has just taken in. It is a huge responsibility to just step in to. If she were the owner of this dog and had a skilled small breed vet working with her, I might offer different advice but you have to look at the total picture here. Are some of you advising a non-breeder to take on the risks and responsibility of seeing a 3 pound Yorkie through a pregnancy and caring for these very tiny pups with little preparation? I certainly hope not. __________________ ORANGUTANS ARE DYING FOR THE SAKE OF CHEAP PALM OIL....AND YOU USE IT!!! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ani...m-oil-you.html

07-12-2010, 04:10 PM	#64
miabellaamoure ♥YORKIERESCUE.com♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 8,708	There has been no harsh anything occurring in this thread but, offerings of help & assistance...all without even the courtesy of reply by the OP. In fact, the generous assistance offered to OP has been BOTH from Breeders & Rescue ......so, she had a choice...she chose neither. __________________ Jo Ann Abby, Bella , Phoebe & Violette....

07-12-2010, 04:14 PM	#65
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,451	All I can say is: same stuff, different thread Give someone good advice and someone comes along and says people are mean. I thought the PP had retired. I will pray for this momma dog...sounds like she is going to need all of our prayers. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

07-12-2010, 04:26 PM	#70
miabellaamoure ♥YORKIERESCUE.com♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 8,708	For those pointing that finger around here...try doing a little research on this OP first. If you did, you'd see that she has a history of soliciting YT members for assistance and not just for advise & moral support either. __________________ Jo Ann Abby, Bella , Phoebe & Violette....

07-13-2010, 07:36 AM	#72
TALINA86 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Compton Posts: 82	Hello Again everyone, Let me begin by thanking the ones that really offered their help rather than attack me, My decision have been made and momma dog is doing perfectly fine, I just wanted it to make it clear to everyone that by no means I am trying to take advatage of anyone here on yorkietalk by asking for supplies, oh and for the record CARES4DOGS I didnt just recently had a litter the 1 puppy my dogs had is almost 6 months old. Oh and about me getting my dogs for free yes it did happen I was lucky enough to come across someone that could no longer keep him Me making the decision to breed hims is my business their is no need to judge. Dont worry everyone My little pixie is very well taken care of she going to the vet once a weeks for follow up. The vet will be taking her in the last week of her pregnancy, after that he will have her fixed, he really did offer me help he will care for her during whelping and return her after the puppies are 2 weeks old. I have been greatly disapointed with the yorkietalk members I'm sorry for taking anyones time but this will be my last post here on yorkietalk, If someone really cares to know send me a PM and i will send u my email address

07-13-2010, 07:48 AM	#74
Rachael x Poppy's Mamma ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: England Posts: 3,751 Blog Entries: 3	Thats horrible to hear I hope you can find her a loving home to go to and have her pups x __________________ Rachael & Poppy

07-13-2010, 07:59 AM	#75
Cares4Dogs Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 975	I wasnt trying to be rude or ugly. I was concerned about how you were going to pay for the necessities to raise the puppies because you said couldnt afford anything. I think its great (or rather awesome) your vet is taking her in for 3 weeks. When is she due? Do you know how many she is having?