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♥YORKIERESCUE.com♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Menifee, CA
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| ![]() Here's another thing I'd also like to mention...seeing that this Momma is missing teeth (tongue hanging out) gives me a good indication that she may not have always received proper care & nutrition. Do you know if your Vet is familiar with toy breeds? Believe it or not, not all Vets are and she could be at a disadvantage if she does encounter problems with her pregnancy or during whelping and you could end up losing Momma & the litter as well. Also, if she weighs 4lbs now...she was even smaller before pregnancy. ![]() Maybe Mardelin could weigh in here and give you her thoughts on this situation. I just want to make sure you fully realize the gravity of this situation.
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| ![]() How do we reference this in the breeder section cause many more would reply there I think but I do not know how to link this to a post there or vice versa... |
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YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Up North
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| ![]() Thank you....I am fairly new here but not to breeding. But I am quite concerned for this little girl and am hoping some veteran Yorkie Talkers who have that certain ummm postability can help here. And Mary would be a great start.... ![]() |
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Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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I've skimmed through this thread, so if I speak out of turn, pleas correct/forgive me. This is a 3 year old undersized yorkie female (3 pounds, I think you said). Is this her first pregnacy? Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. She was bred with an undersized male, still doesn't matter. This little girl has all the cards stacked against her. You said your vet said she was healthy, yet her teeth are bad. These pups are going to drain a lot of calcium from her. Did your vet, run blood tests on her? I've asked a couple of questions that I hope you'll answer, before I go on.
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Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Compton
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| ![]() Hello: she is 4.2 lbs (something like that) the vet said she was healthy, her past owners had her teeth removed and so this solved the problem she had in the past. I believe this is her first pregnancy, and yes he ran blood test on her we get results in 3 days some a little more. |
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Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Do you know if any tests were performed on the male that was used? Now correct me if I'm wrong. Do you know if the previous owners performed any pre-breeding tests; bile acids, x-rays on knees and hips, heart test, kidney test, etc. And do you know if any of these tests were performed on the male?
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LoveMy2 Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Tennessee
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| ![]() Wow! You really got called in on a tough situation. I can't say that in your shoes I wouldn't have done the same thing. You would have always worried about her if you had let her go to some shelter. That being said, really, I mean *really* think about what you are getting ready for. I am glad to see that you have already taken her to the vet and got things like that lined up but emergency procedures can be costly. Then, there is the proper care of her and her puppies should everyone make it through okay. I just added a second to my family and it certainly makes an impact financially. That was just doubling my cost, not adding 3 or more. I just hate to see well-meaning individuals get in over their head and have regrets about things they should've have done. It is obvious you want what is best for her. This is just so scary to me, and I live on a farm. ![]() Last edited by MaddiesMommie; 07-08-2010 at 04:07 PM. |
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| ![]() Praying that everything turns out ok for you and the mama yorkie and the babies.
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Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Something you may want to consider, aside from the expense of whelping supplies. You will have to give up a minimum of 12 weeks of your life...from about a week before her first due date (and based on her size, there's a good possibility she'll have a premature litter) until those pups are eating well on their own....
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Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: upstate ny
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| ![]() I first of all want to wish you luck whatever you decide to do and I think everyone will help you with the best of their ability whatever you decide. Everyone is passionate about Yorkies here so if anyone does come across real strong please try to remember that and not hold it against them. You are in a tough situation here. While it can be exciting to think about having puppies - and it really can be - the reality is that it is also A LOT of work and can also be VERY expensive. I just would encourage you to really think things thru thoroughly and make sure that you are not only prepared for the expense but also the amount of work a litter of puppies can entail. One breeder recently lost her mom and had to hand raise her entire litter. That means feeding them every 2 hours for the first 3 weeks at least. Are you at home and able to do that if this were to happen to you? I personally feel uncomfortable aborting a litter myself. It just goes against what I believe personally so I can understand how you feel but just want to make sure you have thought everything thru in fairness to the mom and puppies. I wish you the best of luck whatever you decide and truly hope that everything goes well. |
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Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| ![]() I do live close to this by, but I think with the uncertainty of this wee one, a rescue would better serve should an emergency arise.
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| ![]() This is really a bad situation. I just read through the thread and I feel so badly for this little girl. She shouldn't be having pups at all. I don't know what 'advice' to give, but maybe I can give you a little perspective in what you're facing. From reading the posts, it seems like she is in her last couple of weeks of pregnancy, going by the fact that the vet could see 3 pups. With her weight at 4.1 pounds at this stage, this girl is actually a 3 pounder...an extremely small dog to be having babies. No matter what your vet says, this baby will likely not be able to deliver these pups on her own. A c-section is VERY likely. Along with that, the pups will be tiny at birth....probably around 2 ounces...maybe smaller. Babies this size have a very difficult time nursing on their own and you should be prepared for around the clock supplementing (which isn't easy). At that tiny size, they have difficulty maintaining body heat and will be very vulnerable for some time. It will take a lot of time and dedication for these babies to make it. In her last couple of weeks before delivery, the pups will do most of their growing and this drains the dam's nutrients in a big way. She should be closely watched from here on out with an eye out especially for pre-eclampsia. This girl really needs to be in the hands of an experienced breeder and a good small breed vet. This is a scary situation for even an experienced breeder and I know for certain I wouldn't want to have to deal with something like this. So much can go wrong, not only with the delivery. As I mentioned, the time before and after each have their own risks and it takes an experienced person to be able to recognize the signs of distress in either the dam or the pups. Apart from the likely costs and the time and dedication involved, this is truly a pregnancy that shouldn't be handled by a novice. Perhaps you should reach out to the rescue people and see what resources they can provide. I know you have an attachment to this girl, but, for her safety and the pups, she needs to be in very capable hands. This is a dangerous situation.
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