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Old 07-08-2010, 03:13 PM   #31
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Here's another thing I'd also like to mention...seeing that this Momma is missing teeth (tongue hanging out) gives me a good indication that she may not have always received proper care & nutrition.

Do you know if your Vet is familiar with toy breeds? Believe it or not, not all Vets are and she could be at a disadvantage if she does encounter problems with her pregnancy or during whelping and you could end up losing Momma & the litter as well.

Also, if she weighs 4lbs now...she was even smaller before pregnancy.

Maybe Mardelin could weigh in here and give you her thoughts on this situation. I just want to make sure you fully realize the gravity of this situation.
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How do we reference this in the breeder section cause many more would reply there I think but I do not know how to link this to a post there or vice versa...
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Old 07-08-2010, 03:28 PM   #33
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How do we reference this in the breeder section cause many more would reply there I think but I do not know how to link this to a post there or vice versa...
It's already there and I've put a pm out to Mardelin & Woogieman for any help they may offer this op.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...er-assist.html
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Thank you....I am fairly new here but not to breeding. But I am quite concerned for this little girl and am hoping some veteran Yorkie Talkers who have that certain ummm postability can help here. And Mary would be a great start....
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Old 07-08-2010, 03:48 PM   #35
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It makes me sad to even have to write this,

So my mom called me yesterday afternoon, asking me to come home right away, She said you wont belive what I just did,

So our next door neighbor had been going through some pretty hard times, They just told them a couple days ago that they had to leave their property, they lost their homes due to forclosure, I was devastated to hear that hey were thinking of leaving their 3 year old teacup yorkie in a nearby shelter because they had no idea where they were going to go, what makes this story even more sad is the fact that this little 3 year old yorkie has no top teeth and is pregnant! She has no problems eating (she's very chubby) other than the teeth problems she's very healthy, this is her first litter, what scares me is how in the world will she be able to care for these puppies is it even possible? I really dont want to take her to the shelter she is a very sweet dog... what can i do... please advise!!! I'm freaking out~ I know i should have thought about this a little better but I could't let them take her to the pound... Please no mean responses!
Let me begin by commending you in taking in this little girl and wanting to help. But, your's is not an ideal situation. You are very inexperienced. So, many things to consider. I'm not going to attempt to talk you out of this endevor, I hope to prepare you.

I've skimmed through this thread, so if I speak out of turn, pleas correct/forgive me.

This is a 3 year old undersized yorkie female (3 pounds, I think you said). Is this her first pregnacy? Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. She was bred with an undersized male, still doesn't matter. This little girl has all the cards stacked against her.

You said your vet said she was healthy, yet her teeth are bad. These pups are going to drain a lot of calcium from her. Did your vet, run blood tests on her?

I've asked a couple of questions that I hope you'll answer, before I go on.
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Hello:

she is 4.2 lbs (something like that) the vet said she was healthy, her past owners had her teeth removed and so this solved the problem she had in the past.

I believe this is her first pregnancy, and yes he ran blood test on her we get results in 3 days some a little more.
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she is 4.2 lbs (something like that) the vet said she was healthy, her past owners had her teeth removed and so this solved the problem she had in the past.

I believe this is her first pregnancy, and yes he ran blood test on her we get results in 3 days some a little more.
Did he do a vaginal smear on her? Very important as any infection can affect the pups.

Do you know if any tests were performed on the male that was used?

Now correct me if I'm wrong. Do you know if the previous owners performed any pre-breeding tests; bile acids, x-rays on knees and hips, heart test, kidney test, etc. And do you know if any of these tests were performed on the male?
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Wow! You really got called in on a tough situation. I can't say that in your shoes I wouldn't have done the same thing. You would have always worried about her if you had let her go to some shelter. That being said, really, I mean *really* think about what you are getting ready for. I am glad to see that you have already taken her to the vet and got things like that lined up but emergency procedures can be costly. Then, there is the proper care of her and her puppies should everyone make it through okay. I just added a second to my family and it certainly makes an impact financially. That was just doubling my cost, not adding 3 or more.
I just hate to see well-meaning individuals get in over their head and have regrets about things they should've have done.
It is obvious you want what is best for her.

This is just so scary to me, and I live on a farm. I have witnessed many births of livestock but these little creatures are like babies to me. I have read so many whelping stories gone bad that I could never go into it as uneducated as I am. I am not meaning this negative toward you, just sounds so scary to me.

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Praying that everything turns out ok for you and the mama yorkie and the babies.
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she is 4.2 lbs (something like that) the vet said she was healthy, her past owners had her teeth removed and so this solved the problem she had in the past.

I believe this is her first pregnancy, and yes he ran blood test on her we get results in 3 days some a little more.
I just checked your profile page and when you joined you were 21. I assume you're single, and by the way beautiful.

Something you may want to consider, aside from the expense of whelping supplies. You will have to give up a minimum of 12 weeks of your life...from about a week before her first due date (and based on her size, there's a good possibility she'll have a premature litter) until those pups are eating well on their own....
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I first of all want to wish you luck whatever you decide to do and I think everyone will help you with the best of their ability whatever you decide. Everyone is passionate about Yorkies here so if anyone does come across real strong please try to remember that and not hold it against them. You are in a tough situation here. While it can be exciting to think about having puppies - and it really can be - the reality is that it is also A LOT of work and can also be VERY expensive. I just would encourage you to really think things thru thoroughly and make sure that you are not only prepared for the expense but also the amount of work a litter of puppies can entail. One breeder recently lost her mom and had to hand raise her entire litter. That means feeding them every 2 hours for the first 3 weeks at least. Are you at home and able to do that if this were to happen to you?
I personally feel uncomfortable aborting a litter myself. It just goes against what I believe personally so I can understand how you feel but just want to make sure you have thought everything thru in fairness to the mom and puppies. I wish you the best of luck whatever you decide and truly hope that everything goes well.
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Alot of good advice here. I wish I lived closer I would come help or take her in my home.
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Alot of good advice here. I wish I lived closer I would come help or take her in my home.
I do live close to this by, but I think with the uncertainty of this wee one, a rescue would better serve should an emergency arise.
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This is really a bad situation. I just read through the thread and I feel so badly for this little girl. She shouldn't be having pups at all.

I don't know what 'advice' to give, but maybe I can give you a little perspective in what you're facing.

From reading the posts, it seems like she is in her last couple of weeks of pregnancy, going by the fact that the vet could see 3 pups. With her weight at 4.1 pounds at this stage, this girl is actually a 3 pounder...an extremely small dog to be having babies. No matter what your vet says, this baby will likely not be able to deliver these pups on her own. A c-section is VERY likely.

Along with that, the pups will be tiny at birth....probably around 2 ounces...maybe smaller. Babies this size have a very difficult time nursing on their own and you should be prepared for around the clock supplementing (which isn't easy). At that tiny size, they have difficulty maintaining body heat and will be very vulnerable for some time. It will take a lot of time and dedication for these babies to make it.

In her last couple of weeks before delivery, the pups will do most of their growing and this drains the dam's nutrients in a big way. She should be closely watched from here on out with an eye out especially for pre-eclampsia.

This girl really needs to be in the hands of an experienced breeder and a good small breed vet. This is a scary situation for even an experienced breeder and I know for certain I wouldn't want to have to deal with something like this. So much can go wrong, not only with the delivery. As I mentioned, the time before and after each have their own risks and it takes an experienced person to be able to recognize the signs of distress in either the dam or the pups.

Apart from the likely costs and the time and dedication involved, this is truly a pregnancy that shouldn't be handled by a novice. Perhaps you should reach out to the rescue people and see what resources they can provide. I know you have an attachment to this girl, but, for her safety and the pups, she needs to be in very capable hands. This is a dangerous situation.
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From reading the posts, it seems like she is in her last couple of weeks of pregnancy, going by the fact that the vet could see 3 pups. With her weight at 4.1 pounds at this stage, this girl is actually a 3 pounder...an extremely small dog to be having babies. No matter what your vet says, this baby will likely not be able to deliver these pups on her own. A c-section is VERY likely.
This is something I have been wondering about. I didn't want to comment because I don't know enough about breeding/whelping. This makes the situation a lot more serious. Thank you for posting.
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