Help!Oscar can't pee after bladder stone surgery

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by kalina82

it is fine if you prefer to give it that way to your dog with those problems on those medications.

you need to remember that there are thousands of dogs that are given this medication with no problem what so ever. just because a few dogs have a problem with it doesn't mean the administration for all needs to be changed.

i consulted with 3 human pharmacists after my dog went through this and all said what i stated below and this is a tiny dog. The more food with it the better as it can damage the lining of the intestines. I am also on a yahoo group for nsaids. I read what it does to dogs ALOT. I know alot about this after what happened to my dog. We will have to agree to disagree on this one gf it is best and safest if given mid meal not with a snack. I agree with the rest you stated but not the snack part sorry

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by chaygirl

It was clearer when I first brought him home, but it is yellow now- not dark, but yellow. Should I not give him the Metacam? I don't know if it is a fluke, but it seems like he urinates better after he takes it. He gets it once a day. Yesterday when he had his good pees, it was after taking it. Today, when he finally peed, it was about hour and 1/2 after. I feel so confused.

Please listen to kalina82, she has more experience than any of us. I just dont want you to feel so confused by all the advise that has been given.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

Please listen to kalina82, she has more experience than any of us. I just dont want you to feel so confused by all the advise that has been given.

so has she had a dog with a reaction to this drug?

op good luck and i hope your dog gets better off to my job that i make money at as no time for another debate like what went on with cysto pm me if you have questions

I have tried to help alot with this dog and i will let the pros help now

[chaygirl]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yep 10000000% AGREE with this as that is the downside to pain meds they think they are ok when they really are not and will not rest unless you make them

do you have a pack n play for babies on rollers or a stroller for dogs as you can keep him in there and roll him from room to room with you so he is with you but resting and confined

I have a pack and play but he thinks he can jump up and down in there. Before the surgery, that's where I put him when my youngest plays with him. (just as a precaution because he ended being so small) So he associates it with running & jumping. Today I put him in a doggie purse that I have and that worked well. He was close enough to me yet confined. Wish I had a stroller though.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by chaygirl

I have a pack and play but he thinks he can jump up and down in there. Before the surgery, that's where I put him when my youngest plays with him. (just as a precaution because he ended being so small) So he associates it with running & jumping. Today I put him in a doggie purse that I have and that worked well. He was close enough to me yet confined. Wish I had a stroller though.

do you have a home goods near you as they have a stroller for 39.99 there or petsmart has them as well. It might help as the recovery is going to take some time.

Have to go to work - I will let the others help out as I do not know much as you can tell

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by chaygirl

I have a pack and play but he thinks he can jump up and down in there. Before the surgery, that's where I put him when my youngest plays with him. (just as a precaution because he ended being so small) So he associates it with running & jumping. Today I put him in a doggie purse that I have and that worked well. He was close enough to me yet confined. Wish I had a stroller though.

the carrier is a great idea to keep him confined and close to you! i bet he loved that. do you have a crate? or can you make the pen smaller so he doesn't have as much room to bounce around in?

[chaygirl]

Originally Posted by kalina82

the carrier is a great idea to keep him confined and close to you! i bet he loved that. do you have a crate? or can you make the pen smaller so he doesn't have as much room to bounce around in?

Yes, we have a crate. He just won't rest & relax in it for some reason. He does better if we leave the house or at night (bedtime) with the lights out. Other than that he is crying and yelping. (not from pain, because he stops as soon as you get him) I'll just have to do frequent short errands out, so that he will nap during the day.

[kalina82]

Originally Posted by chaygirl

Yes, we have a crate. He just won't rest & relax in it for some reason. He does better if we leave the house or at night (bedtime) with the lights out. Other than that he is crying and yelping. (not from pain, because he stops as soon as you get him) I'll just have to do frequent short errands out, so that he will nap during the day.

what if you put the crate in a back room and pretend you left the house? LOL maybe he'll fall asleep

[capt_noonie]

Hey guys, sorry so late to this, just got online now and haven't read all replies yet, but I agree, ER vet now! It is not good to have him hold it for so long. I don't agree with the vet discharging him so soon after surgery. Katie was at the hospital for 3 days just to flush out her system first before sx and another 2 days after for observation. She had the catheder(sp?) so I didn't see how she peed in the 2 days after sx, but once we got home she was fine. The first day or so the urine was a little off colored (darker than usual) but the 2nd day was back to regular yellow.

Also male and female dogs usually get different kind of stones, so I don't know how much knowledge I have that may help. but, the doctor didn't xray after surgery? katie's did to show all stones were removed. What medications were given?

[capt_noonie]

Ok just read that he finally peed. Make sure he gets plenty of water. If he doesn't seem back on schedule for the next pee, I would call the hospital again. Hope he feels better!

[Rhetts_mama]

Some of the listed side effects of tramadol (in people) can be difficulty in passing urine, painful urination. Does anyone know if it has the same effects on dogs?

[miabellaamoure]

Having had two rescues that I fostered go thru Bladder Stone Surgery (Cystotomy), I can tell you this is often seen post op and it is not normal!

Most likely, your lil' one is straining because a piece of "gravel" is blocking or irritating him.

After Cystotomy sugery, they often will need to go back in to have their urethra's flushed via a catheter to clear any debris/gravel.

Whatever you do...do NOT wait to get this checked out! Please call your Vet's emergency phone number and follow their advise ASAP!

This is painful, too! Just ask a man who's tried to pass a kidney stone!

[chaygirl]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Hey guys, sorry so late to this, just got online now and haven't read all replies yet, but I agree, ER vet now! It is not good to have him hold it for so long. I don't agree with the vet discharging him so soon after surgery. Katie was at the hospital for 3 days just to flush out her system first before sx and another 2 days after for observation. She had the catheder(sp?) so I didn't see how she peed in the 2 days after sx, but once we got home she was fine. The first day or so the urine was a little off colored (darker than usual) but the 2nd day was back to regular yellow.

Also male and female dogs usually get different kind of stones, so I don't know how much knowledge I have that may help. but, the doctor didn't xray after surgery? katie's did to show all stones were removed. What medications were given?

I believe they think it is the kind that does not show on xrays-I'm not sure though. he sent it out to a lab. He has a liver shunt so probably urate. they gave me metacam and Travadol. they also told me to continue giving him antibiotics that he was already on Cephadroxil and Baytril. They did put a catheter in before he came home & flushed it. the surgeon told me on saturday that straining will be normal for the next few days because the bladder would be swollen. Maybe yours had more time for the swelling to go down since they were hospitalized & monitored longer. I had no idea that he could stay longer. i just assumed when they discharge, it's a good time for them to go home. I didn't even question it. I hope he will be ok.

[chaygirl]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Having had two rescues that I fostered go thru Bladder Stone Surgery (Cystotomy), I can tell you this is often seen post op and it is not normal!

Most likely, your lil' one is straining because a piece of "gravel" is blocking or irritating him.

After Cystotomy sugery, they often will need to go back in to have their urethra's flushed via a catheter to clear any debris/gravel.

Whatever you do...do NOT wait to get this checked out! Please call your Vet's emergency phone number and follow their advise ASAP!

This is painful, too! Just ask a man who's tried to pass a kidney stone!

I called them last night and today twice. They told me that it is just that his bladder and urethra are swollen- that it will gradually get better. I'm keeping close watch though. Ideally, I would like to talk to the surgeon.

[chaygirl]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Some of the listed side effects of tramadol (in people) can be difficulty in passing urine, painful urination. Does anyone know if it has the same effects on dogs?

I hope not.