Is this really necessary?

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by dwerten

so would that equate to the 1.2ml she got of the 25mg liquid form? Thanks for helping

sounds like 1/2 tab a day per the liquid doseage she got does that sound right?

Since there is 25mg/ml -- then it looks like she's getting more than the equiv. of "1 tab" at 1.2ml. So, she is getting just over 1 tab, from what I can tell here...

Here is more info. on Clind. (aka "antirobe"): Antirobe Capsules Veterinary Information from Drugs.com

Antirobe: Oral Antibiotic For Dogs & Cats - 1800PetMeds

Clindamycin: Oral Antibiotic For Dogs & Cats - 1800PetMeds

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Since there is 25mg/ml -- then it looks like she's getting more than the equiv. of "1 tab" at 1.2ml. So, she is getting just over 1 tab, from what I can tell here...

Here is more info. on Clind. (aka "antirobe"): Antirobe Capsules Veterinary Information from Drugs.com

Antirobe: Oral Antibiotic For Dogs & Cats - 1800PetMeds

Clindamycin: Oral Antibiotic For Dogs & Cats - 1800PetMeds

thanks yeah they wanted 1.2 so maybe being over one tablet and being small is prob not sure trying to give these 3 every benefit I can as not real happy but i would think one tablet a day would have worked and would have been much easier for me - not sure i could have got a capsule in her but definitely could have done pill as her other two are pill form

now i know liquid vitamins are better than pill form would that be the same as meds as liquid does not have to be broken down like pill form in vitamins so just curious as just thought of this as well?

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by dwerten

thanks yeah they wanted 1.2 so maybe being over one tablet and being small is prob not sure trying to give these 3 every benefit I can as not real happy but i would think one tablet a day would have worked and would have been much easier for me - not sure i could have got a capsule in her but definitely could have done pill as her other two are pill form

now i know liquid vitamins are better than pill form would that be the same as meds as liquid does not have to be broken down like pill form in vitamins so just curious as just thought of this as well?

That is a very good question and a tough one. Bioavailability is very strange. Take Atopica. Brand name Atopica (a "gel-cap") has a certain level of bio-A. However, studies show that if you switch your dog to generic cyclosporine (a powder) - it has less bio-A, and some dogs symptoms will markedly increase.

Generic cyclo., of course, is more affordable. Anecdotally - I can confirm this experience just as of this week...so it's funny you asked this right now. I've had Marcel on Atopica for about a year now? But Wylie's compounding Pharmacy happens to make Generic Cyclo. - so I thought we'd try it for Marcel - we tried it for about 3 weeks now - and sure enough....Marcel is chewing his paws again. So, it will be back to Atopica.

So, that's an example of how bio-A is so different from med to med . So...my long point is...lol...it's tough to say about each particular medication, in terms of "which form" bc it can be so different for each individual med. Cyclosporine, for example, can also be put in a suspension...but I would wonder if that's really the best form for its bio-A . It also depends on *where* in the system the drug is supposed to be absorbed/broken down (ie, tummy, small intestine etc...).

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

That is a very good question and a tough one. Bioavailability is very strange. Take Atopica. Brand name Atopica (a "gel-cap") has a certain level of bio-A. However, studies show that if you switch your dog to generic cyclosporine (a powder) - it has less bio-A, and some dogs symptoms will markedly increase.

Generic cyclo., of course, is more affordable. Anecdotally - I can confirm this experience just as of this week...so it's funny you asked this right now. I've had Marcel on Atopica for about a year now? But Wylie's compounding Pharmacy happens to make Generic Cyclo. - so I thought we'd try it for Marcel - we tried it for about 3 weeks now - and sure enough....Marcel is chewing his paws again. So, it will be back to Atopica.

So, that's an example of how bio-A is so different from med to med . So...my long point is...lol...it's tough to say about each particular medication, in terms of "which form" bc it can be so different for each individual med. Cyclosporine, for example, can also be put in a suspension...but I would wonder if that's really the best form for its bio-A . It also depends on *where* in the system the drug is supposed to be absorbed/broken down (ie, tummy, small intestine etc...).

ok thanks yeah dd was on atopica for a year but just kept vomitting it up after a year so wen to low dose of temarilp after that so was hoping the powder form was going to work for you until i just saw that it did not so bummer as always looking for a safer drug for dd than steroids but not alot of options with environmental allergies you are pretty much screwed

[katy-yorkie]

Thanks Linda, I did get the Clindamycin in pill form. Buster gets 1/8 of a tablet once a day. I'm not sure why the vet didn't give me the pills in the first place as he told me the liquid tasted bad (maybe he thought we would have issues cutting the pills so small ). I had to leave before they called back and DH picked up the pills and the tech quartered the pills but it was up to us to cut them smaller. But anything is better than the liquid.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by katy-yorkie

Thanks Linda, I did get the Clindamycin in pill form. Buster gets 1/8 of a tablet once a day. I'm not sure why the vet didn't give me the pills in the first place as he told me the liquid tasted bad (maybe he thought we would have issues cutting the pills so small ). I had to leave before they called back and DH picked up the pills and the tech quartered the pills but it was up to us to cut them smaller. But anything is better than the liquid.

how much does buster weigh?

[katy-yorkie]

[QUOTE=dwerten;3011089]how much does buster weigh?[/QUOTE

On a good day Buster weighs 4 lbs. Most of the time he is 3.6 or 3.8 lbs. He was probably under 4 lbs the day of the extractions as he could not have food after 9:00PM the night before and the surgery wasn't until 11:30 the next day.

[dwerten]

[QUOTE=katy-yorkie;3011145]

Originally Posted by dwerten

how much does buster weigh?[/QUOTE

On a good day Buster weighs 4 lbs. Most of the time he is 3.6 or 3.8 lbs. He was probably under 4 lbs the day of the extractions as he could not have food after 9:00PM the night before and the surgery wasn't until 11:30 the next day.

ok thanks

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by katy-yorkie

Thanks Linda, I did get the Clindamycin in pill form. Buster gets 1/8 of a tablet once a day. I'm not sure why the vet didn't give me the pills in the first place as he told me the liquid tasted bad (maybe he thought we would have issues cutting the pills so small ). I had to leave before they called back and DH picked up the pills and the tech quartered the pills but it was up to us to cut them smaller. But anything is better than the liquid.

Glad to hear it! Makes it more pleasant for him and easier on you!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Glad to hear it! Makes it more pleasant for him and easier on you!

Linda, do you have any guesses as to why it seems the liquid is being given out more often? Is the powder (pre-mix) just more common right now? Longer shelf life? Now I'm curious...but I honestly don't know...

(ugh....if I find out it's a higher mark-up, revenue-generator...ugh...)

As usual, looks like your vet is doing the right thing . Are you sure the practice doesn't want to move here? The weather really IS nice. Plus? DRY HEAT.

[TwoforFun]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yep this worked for us too - i used a syringe though not what came in box so ask vet about that as easy to do a little bit at a time for us

This is my trick too, works like a charm. Glad everything worked out for you.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Linda, do you have any guesses as to why it seems the liquid is being given out more often? Is the powder (pre-mix) just more common right now? Longer shelf life? Now I'm curious...but I honestly don't know...

(ugh....if I find out it's a higher mark-up, revenue-generator...ugh...)

As usual, looks like your vet is doing the right thing . Are you sure the practice doesn't want to move here? The weather really IS nice. Plus? DRY HEAT.

I really think they opt for liquid because so many people cannot get pills into their pups. I have a couple that will NOT take treats from me, so I have to put their Sentinel down their throats each month. It took me a while to get used to doing that....I think people just don't like it.

I don't think it has anything at all to do with money.

Of course, sometimes it just is not possible to give pills especially to the smaller pups because of the small dosages. It just depends upon the medication. My vet knows that I prefer pills.

I hate that liquid metronidazole...it has to be refrigerated and is just sticky and nasty imo. I much prefer the pills.

Oh, I totally LOVE my vet. I have used her for about nine years now. I used to travel between NJ and TX and I really lucked up when I found her. She is an excellent diagnostician ... in all of those years, she has never missed the boat with any of my pups. And, she has seen many since I have fosters.

Sorry, but you will have to come here and get used to WET HEAT!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I really think they opt for liquid because so many people cannot get pills into their pups. I have a couple that will NOT take treats from me, so I have to put their Sentinel down their throats each month. It took me a while to get used to doing that....I think people just don't like it.

I don't think it has anything at all to do with money.

Of course, sometimes it just is not possible to give pills especially to the smaller pups because of the small dosages. It just depends upon the medication. My vet knows that I prefer pills.

I hate that liquid metronidazole...it has to be refrigerated and is just sticky and nasty imo. I much prefer the pills.

Oh, I totally LOVE my vet. I have used her for about nine years now. I used to travel between NJ and TX and I really lucked up when I found her. She is an excellent diagnostician ... in all of those years, she has never missed the boat with any of my pups. And, she has seen many since I have fosters.

Sorry, but you will have to come here and get used to WET HEAT!

WET HEAT, come on!

Dang, I love your vet TOO . Very good point, so true - many pets cannot do pills, hence the liquid. I'm lucky w/ my boys bc they love peanut butter - so I can take any pill, smear it w/ PB, and done (or if can be given w/ food, mush it in there).

But yes, some people have an awful time getting any pill into a dog - so true.

Again - DRY HEAT .

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

WET HEAT, come on!

Dang, I love your vet TOO . Very good point, so true - many pets cannot do pills, hence the liquid. I'm lucky w/ my boys bc they love peanut butter - so I can take any pill, smear it w/ PB, and done (or if can be given w/ food, mush it in there).

But yes, some people have an awful time getting any pill into a dog - so true.

Again - DRY HEAT .

Now seriously....what kind of heat is suggested for back pain? Moist or dry? Be HONEST.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Now seriously....what kind of heat is suggested for back pain? Moist or dry? Be HONEST.

Well...um...you see...what I hear is...what the sub-experts say is....well...

WAS THAT MY PHONE......????