Holly's Beat Parvo, Now we're Hypoglycemic with an enlarged esophagus... - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Lillys_Mommy · 01-09-2009, 12:40 PM

Ok, I've been through hell today, so try to hang in there with me. My puppy, Lilly, died a week to the day we got her in December. Then we got Holly (my birthday gift) at Christmas. She was fine and dandy until a week later on my actual birthday, she started getting ill. Turned out to be Parvo. They were SHOCKED she survived. Stunned actually.

Two nights ago, she was drinking her body-weight in water, her stools were getting solid, and she was eating a/d food off my finger. She'd been having issues with swallowing though. She'll plant her bottom, slide it back so she's hunched over, and try to hack, like she has something in her throat. The Doctor said she may have a sore throat, or it could be an enlarged esophagus, so she gave me Amoxicillin, and another med for her throat. I gave them to her as directed yesterday afternoon, then she became really limp, like a rag doll. She was still alert, so we thought the meds were taking a lot out of her. She didn't eat or drink yesterday.

This morning I got up at 7:45 and found her on her heating pad, out of it. She wouldn't respond at all, so I picked her up and her head flopped around, her eyes were back in her head, she was barley breathing, it was BAD. I called the vet and left a message, and they called right back when they opened at 8 and I brought her in. Her temp was 97.9 when it should've been 101, her blood sugar was 26 when it shouldve been around 140! The doctor was about ready to pronounce her, because she was comatose, and almost gone. We gave her fluids, kept her warm, put sugar water on her gums, and just ruffed her up all morning, and she began to wake up, little by little. They also shot food directly into her stomach with a tube, she most likely has an enlarged esophagus si the food's not getting to her tummy. They also tested her poo, and she had a great white blood cell count, no blood, negative for Parvo (yayyyy!!!).

After 7 hours, they tested her blood sugar again, and it was 400!! Her legs won't stop going like she was trying to run, and when we put her on the floor, she walked in big circles bumping her head. They then sent us home with food saying to feed her wattered down food every 4 hours while holding her up so the food can go down her throat, keep her warm, and try to keep her down, but if we can't watch her, but let her walk off some of the sugar. She's now walking in circles in the kitchen, hitting her head on everything, but when she does, she just stands there, like she wants to walk through the dishwasher....

How long will it be before her blood sugar is back to normal, and she's not acting so loopy anymore??? This is scary....it's like she's not here. She's in her own world.... I hold her to get her to rest, but she just fights me, kicking all feet and trying to get away...

JeanieK · 01-09-2009, 12:47 PM

I am so sorry for you agony. I am not being judgemental or putting you down in any way. I have no idea where you are getting your dogs from or how much you are paying, but I would look for better breeders.

Researching the breeder is much more important than finding the perfect dog. good breeders do not sell sick dogs. good breeders stnd behind their dogs

Lillys_Mommy · 01-09-2009, 12:49 PM

Of this I am aware. Our first pup came from a pet store locally, not our best move from the stories we've heard from that place, we didn't know.

Holly came to us from a highly-respected breeder in Missouri who's only bread Yorkies for 26 years. Holly was the first puppy out of her home to ever get Parvo.

annamalyssa · 01-09-2009, 12:54 PM

It can take days for a puppy to recover from a hypoglycemic attack like holly's. She was really bad so it won't be a quick all better recovery. To avoid attacks of hypoglycemia give her the nutri-cal every few hours if she isn't eating / or not eating enough, or if you don't think it is getting to her stomach because the nutrical is a paste and it should reach just like the water. That will prevent another attack.

Anytime you see a young pup who hasn't been eating much get listless hypoglycemia MUST be taken into account as they go downhill very fast, even 1 skipped meal can cause an attack to come on.

Don't give up on her, You have been a great mommy so far getting her all the help she needs and SHE BEAT PARVO!! so she is obviously a SUPER STRONG LITTLE GIRL!! Poor honey, we will pray for you as she has been through so so much already.

If you have questions please come here to ask, if she is not looking like herself or doing weird stuff don't feel bad asking.. maybe put it in the general forum if you are not sure... There are TONS of people with lots of experience in everything yorkie.. so chances are SOMEBODY ON HERE HAS BEEN THERE. Hypoglycemia is VERY common with these little guys.

I am sending hugs your way to help get you through this tough time, I know it has been crazy for you! but you have been doing a great job .. any puppy would be lucky to have you for a mommy.

annamalyssa · 01-09-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

I am so sorry for you agony. I am not being judgemental or putting you down in any way. I have no idea where you are getting your dogs from or how much you are paying, but I would look for better breeders.

Researching the breeder is much more important than finding the perfect dog. good breeders do not sell sick dogs. good breeders stnd behind their dogs

Hi jeanie,

just to note that I don't think Holly came with Parvo from the breeder, she must have contracted it while with the parents of lillys mommy's hubby. She was with them for 1 week prior hanging with their dog before coming to lillys mommy and then got Parvo a week later. So it must have started sometime between the transition of home as the virus takes can sit dormant for up to 10 days.

I am not sure about the breeder but according to lillys mommy she was a good person with good intentions. Lilly was a product of a pet store as her mommy stated above, it was just a sad situation and the pet store did nothing to compensate for it that I know of.

mscat · 01-09-2009, 01:03 PM

I am very sorry for your loss of your first puppy. Now holly is so sick too. That is heart breaking. Have you got in contact with the breeder? Did you have any kind of health contract?
I got my Suzi and the breeder had already given her two rounds of vaccines. The breeder was even asking me about being around any other dogs because i had just cam back from a super pet adoption. I am in agreement that it does matter where you buy a puppy and who from.
Is your Holly a very tiny baby? A lot of little itty yorkie's can have a harder time with health problems. What did your first puppy die from? Was it from the same breeder?

I see that you live in CA. too. Can I ask what pet store you got your first puppy from? oops your in NC .

JeanieK · 01-09-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by annamalyssa

Hi jeanie,

just to note that I don't think Holly came with Parvo from the breeder, she must have contracted it while with the parents of lillys mommy's hubby. She was with them for 1 week prior hanging with their dog before coming to lillys mommy and then got Parvo a week later. So it must have started sometime between the transition of home as the virus takes can sit dormant for up to 10 days.

I am not sure about the breeder but according to lillys mommy she was a good person with good intentions. Lilly was a product of a pet store as her mommy stated above, it was just a sad situation and the pet store did nothing to compensate for it that I know of.

Thank you, that does create a different picture. That is sad.

Lillys_Mommy · 01-09-2009, 01:20 PM

I just called her doctor, she's thrown up twice now, but it's been yellowy-water looking. Doctor said she's coming back from a low blood sugar that we just have to hope for no severe brain damage at this point, because she was practically gone this morning. I'm supposed to let her walk so her brain can learn to walk and avoid running into things, then hold her upright for about 3 minutes to help her throat, then let her walk and learn coordination again. I'm holding her now, and it's like she's having little spasms. She'll relax for a second, then her feet and head will all move at once as she tries to get away. She's just kind of a space case at this point....it is so scary, like she's possessed.... She was 3 and a half pounds, but the parvo caused her to drop a little, so she's now 3 pounds as of today. She's also almost 6 months old.

We haven't spoken to the breeder in a few days, we were getting through the Parvo first. We are calling her tonight to let her know of this. She is really nice and has said she'll do anything she can to help us.

wemple2 · 01-09-2009, 11:10 PM

I am so very sorry you are going through such a rough time. How is Holly doing today? Bless her little heart, I do hope there is no permanent brain damage...but they can relearn things.
Winston experienced his first bout of low blood sugar(his reading was 25 when I rushed him to the vet) a couple of years ago, he is now almost 5 years old and 8 pounds...he still to this day has seizures, the vet says his sugar goes too low and he has a seizure, even though he eats well, small frequent meals. Nutrical does seem to bring him out of them. But I just wonder if he has some brain damage and that's why he still has seizures??? Of course every time it happens I think "there goes another brain cell or two"...he's such a good boy...I worry about his well being.
Please do keep us updated on your Holly, I care very much how she is getting a long...what the vets think and how to treat her. Wish you both well, please take care.

Lillys_Mommy · 01-10-2009, 06:11 AM

Last night was rough... She was pacing the perimeter of the kitchen all night (where we had her penned) and she kept running into everything, then would just stand there, like she expected the fridge to move so she could keep walking. Hour after hour, she started to avoid things.

We fed her, and she kept the food down, then we took her to bed with us to keep her warm, but she kept wanting to move, once, I woke up with her on my back and was terrified to have her fall off the bed, so we penned her up in our master bath. where we could be close to her. She stayed on her heating pad all night, to the point where she didn't move to go potty, she just did it in her towel.

Shayne woke up several times to check on her and give her water. When I awoke this morning, her gums were extremely white, and her head was flopping around like a rag doll again. If I sat her up on her own, she'd hold the pose for a second, then fall. I went and got some syrup from the fridge and we started giving her shots of it, along with water and some food.

After a half hour holding her upright so the food and water could get to her tummy, Shayne was taking her to the doctor (I need to go to work today) to get checked out, and she was walking. He was in the livingroom so I told him to make noise, and she started to follow it, then once she got out there, she just started walking like last night, with her head pointed at the floor. She hit the couch, but avoided the coffee table.... He just text me from the doctorsaying her blood sugar was 160. Yepee....it's not 400 or 26!

That's all I know for now..... there's the update!!! Thank you everyone SO MUCH for being there through all of this...it means the world to me!!!!!!!!!

LIL MIS' MAGIC · 01-10-2009, 06:21 AM

I am so sorry that little Holly has had such a rough time. You mentioned her walking the perimeter of the kitchen - this could be a sign of liver issues. Just my opinion, but I would ask the vet to check her to possible liver/livery shunt issues.
Please keep us updated and I will keep your family and Holly in my thoughts!

JeanieK · 01-10-2009, 10:43 AM

It brings tears to my eyes just reading this. This is so sad. the poor little thing. I hope they can help her.

mk97 · 01-10-2009, 11:37 AM

I have a puppy that was diagnosed with mega-esophagus at 4-5 weeks old, it was recommended that she be put to sleep bc of her size/breed-he felt her prognosis would be very poor. Fast forward a few months-she is currently eating whatever she wants with no vomiting or problems. We redid the x-ray and she is growing out of it and should have a normal life with no future problems.

I hope and pray that your little one will be as lucky as mine was.

mscat · 01-10-2009, 02:00 PM

I feel bad for this little puppy being so sick . I have heard that bumping into things, and walking in circles like this is a symtom of A liver problem. Their might be more issues going on with her besides trying to keep her blood sugar stable. Is food being offered to her at all times? Seems like she is having a hard time during the night hrs. I am very concerned about her behavior , because this is not typical actions.

Lillys_Mommy · 01-10-2009, 07:15 PM

You people seriously have NO IDEA how much your responses mean to me!!!!

The vet mentioned a possible liver problem to Shayne when he took her to the doctor today. She's not bumping into things anymore, pottying on her puppy pad, still walking a little drunk, but not terribly. She still walks the perimeter with her head down, but will look up if there's a new noise, or sometimes if we call her name. Doctor has us on a schedule working with Nutir-cal, as needed, food the vet gave us every 4 hours - feeding her with a syringe, and giving her water the same way.

When we fed her at 8, I held her and Shayne held the syringe with food on the end of it up to her just to see what she'd do, and she sniffed it, then licked it! We both about cried, taking this intrest in eating when we offer as a sign of improvement.

Then, when she walks, it's like she's trying to gagg herself occasionally, she puts her ears back, closes her eyes, and hunches over. After she eats, drinks, Nutri-cal...anything, I hold her upright for at least 10-15 minutes, patting her side, to help the food down. She did the gagging thing about an hour after we fed her, but this time she threw up. It was a little white foam, really clear with the littlest hint of yellow, with just a little food - barley any. She's definately keeping the food down, and is staying hydrated by the ammount she potties when she goes.... It's kjust the fact of getting her over this hump....

On a personal note: This is KILLING ME. After she threw up, Shayne and I were talking about how worried we are, and he said to prepair for the worst, which I refuse to do. To me, that's like if she makes it, great, if not, oh well. Like giving up on her, I REFUSE to do that. He's talking about if she's not better in a few days, put her down, no questions asked. I can't do that.... I'm not thinking like that. Not that I want her to suffer, but I want to give her body the time it needs to get back on track.... Sorry, had to vent a little, as our views are a little different, we aren't speeking at the moment..... I just don't know how this can happen to us..... We got our Lilly a month ago tomorrow.... This is just unreal.......

01-09-2009, 12:40 PM	#1
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	Holly's Beat Parvo, Now we're Hypoglycemic with an enlarged esophagus... Ok, I've been through hell today, so try to hang in there with me. My puppy, Lilly, died a week to the day we got her in December. Then we got Holly (my birthday gift) at Christmas. She was fine and dandy until a week later on my actual birthday, she started getting ill. Turned out to be Parvo. They were SHOCKED she survived. Stunned actually. Two nights ago, she was drinking her body-weight in water, her stools were getting solid, and she was eating a/d food off my finger. She'd been having issues with swallowing though. She'll plant her bottom, slide it back so she's hunched over, and try to hack, like she has something in her throat. The Doctor said she may have a sore throat, or it could be an enlarged esophagus, so she gave me Amoxicillin, and another med for her throat. I gave them to her as directed yesterday afternoon, then she became really limp, like a rag doll. She was still alert, so we thought the meds were taking a lot out of her. She didn't eat or drink yesterday. This morning I got up at 7:45 and found her on her heating pad, out of it. She wouldn't respond at all, so I picked her up and her head flopped around, her eyes were back in her head, she was barley breathing, it was BAD. I called the vet and left a message, and they called right back when they opened at 8 and I brought her in. Her temp was 97.9 when it should've been 101, her blood sugar was 26 when it shouldve been around 140! The doctor was about ready to pronounce her, because she was comatose, and almost gone. We gave her fluids, kept her warm, put sugar water on her gums, and just ruffed her up all morning, and she began to wake up, little by little. They also shot food directly into her stomach with a tube, she most likely has an enlarged esophagus si the food's not getting to her tummy. They also tested her poo, and she had a great white blood cell count, no blood, negative for Parvo (yayyyy!!!). After 7 hours, they tested her blood sugar again, and it was 400!! Her legs won't stop going like she was trying to run, and when we put her on the floor, she walked in big circles bumping her head. They then sent us home with food saying to feed her wattered down food every 4 hours while holding her up so the food can go down her throat, keep her warm, and try to keep her down, but if we can't watch her, but let her walk off some of the sugar. She's now walking in circles in the kitchen, hitting her head on everything, but when she does, she just stands there, like she wants to walk through the dishwasher.... How long will it be before her blood sugar is back to normal, and she's not acting so loopy anymore??? This is scary....it's like she's not here. She's in her own world.... I hold her to get her to rest, but she just fights me, kicking all feet and trying to get away...

01-09-2009, 01:03 PM	#6
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	I am very sorry for your loss of your first puppy. Now holly is so sick too. That is heart breaking. Have you got in contact with the breeder? Did you have any kind of health contract? I got my Suzi and the breeder had already given her two rounds of vaccines. The breeder was even asking me about being around any other dogs because i had just cam back from a super pet adoption. I am in agreement that it does matter where you buy a puppy and who from. Is your Holly a very tiny baby? A lot of little itty yorkie's can have a harder time with health problems. What did your first puppy die from? Was it from the same breeder? I see that you live in CA. too. Can I ask what pet store you got your first puppy from? oops your in NC . __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich." Last edited by mscat; 01-09-2009 at 01:06 PM.

01-09-2009, 11:10 PM	#9
wemple2 Wee Winston Wiggles Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kewanee, Illinois Posts: 9,666	I am so very sorry you are going through such a rough time. How is Holly doing today? Bless her little heart, I do hope there is no permanent brain damage...but they can relearn things. Winston experienced his first bout of low blood sugar(his reading was 25 when I rushed him to the vet) a couple of years ago, he is now almost 5 years old and 8 pounds...he still to this day has seizures, the vet says his sugar goes too low and he has a seizure, even though he eats well, small frequent meals. Nutrical does seem to bring him out of them. But I just wonder if he has some brain damage and that's why he still has seizures??? Of course every time it happens I think "there goes another brain cell or two"...he's such a good boy...I worry about his well being. Please do keep us updated on your Holly, I care very much how she is getting a long...what the vets think and how to treat her. Wish you both well, please take care. __________________ As Ever, Kathy Intruducing Bentley Winston and Spencer: RIP My Sweet Angels

01-10-2009, 06:21 AM	#11
LIL MIS' MAGIC Yorkie Lover Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlothian, Texas Posts: 4,377 Blog Entries: 3	I am so sorry that little Holly has had such a rough time. You mentioned her walking the perimeter of the kitchen - this could be a sign of liver issues. Just my opinion, but I would ask the vet to check her to possible liver/livery shunt issues. Please keep us updated and I will keep your family and Holly in my thoughts! __________________ Kristin, Mom to: Lil Mis Magic, Sailor and Captain

01-10-2009, 02:00 PM	#14
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	I feel bad for this little puppy being so sick . I have heard that bumping into things, and walking in circles like this is a symtom of A liver problem. Their might be more issues going on with her besides trying to keep her blood sugar stable. Is food being offered to her at all times? Seems like she is having a hard time during the night hrs. I am very concerned about her behavior , because this is not typical actions. __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

01-09-2009, 12:47 PM	#2
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	I am so sorry for you agony. I am not being judgemental or putting you down in any way. I have no idea where you are getting your dogs from or how much you are paying, but I would look for better breeders. Researching the breeder is much more important than finding the perfect dog. good breeders do not sell sick dogs. good breeders stnd behind their dogs

01-09-2009, 12:49 PM	#3
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	Of this I am aware. Our first pup came from a pet store locally, not our best move from the stories we've heard from that place, we didn't know. Holly came to us from a highly-respected breeder in Missouri who's only bread Yorkies for 26 years. Holly was the first puppy out of her home to ever get Parvo.

01-09-2009, 12:54 PM	#4
annamalyssa BANNED! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 1,318	It can take days for a puppy to recover from a hypoglycemic attack like holly's. She was really bad so it won't be a quick all better recovery. To avoid attacks of hypoglycemia give her the nutri-cal every few hours if she isn't eating / or not eating enough, or if you don't think it is getting to her stomach because the nutrical is a paste and it should reach just like the water. That will prevent another attack. Anytime you see a young pup who hasn't been eating much get listless hypoglycemia MUST be taken into account as they go downhill very fast, even 1 skipped meal can cause an attack to come on. Don't give up on her, You have been a great mommy so far getting her all the help she needs and SHE BEAT PARVO!! so she is obviously a SUPER STRONG LITTLE GIRL!! Poor honey, we will pray for you as she has been through so so much already. If you have questions please come here to ask, if she is not looking like herself or doing weird stuff don't feel bad asking.. maybe put it in the general forum if you are not sure... There are TONS of people with lots of experience in everything yorkie.. so chances are SOMEBODY ON HERE HAS BEEN THERE. Hypoglycemia is VERY common with these little guys. I am sending hugs your way to help get you through this tough time, I know it has been crazy for you! but you have been doing a great job .. any puppy would be lucky to have you for a mommy.

01-09-2009, 01:20 PM	#8
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	I just called her doctor, she's thrown up twice now, but it's been yellowy-water looking. Doctor said she's coming back from a low blood sugar that we just have to hope for no severe brain damage at this point, because she was practically gone this morning. I'm supposed to let her walk so her brain can learn to walk and avoid running into things, then hold her upright for about 3 minutes to help her throat, then let her walk and learn coordination again. I'm holding her now, and it's like she's having little spasms. She'll relax for a second, then her feet and head will all move at once as she tries to get away. She's just kind of a space case at this point....it is so scary, like she's possessed.... She was 3 and a half pounds, but the parvo caused her to drop a little, so she's now 3 pounds as of today. She's also almost 6 months old. We haven't spoken to the breeder in a few days, we were getting through the Parvo first. We are calling her tonight to let her know of this. She is really nice and has said she'll do anything she can to help us.

01-10-2009, 06:11 AM	#10
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	Last night was rough... She was pacing the perimeter of the kitchen all night (where we had her penned) and she kept running into everything, then would just stand there, like she expected the fridge to move so she could keep walking. Hour after hour, she started to avoid things. We fed her, and she kept the food down, then we took her to bed with us to keep her warm, but she kept wanting to move, once, I woke up with her on my back and was terrified to have her fall off the bed, so we penned her up in our master bath. where we could be close to her. She stayed on her heating pad all night, to the point where she didn't move to go potty, she just did it in her towel. Shayne woke up several times to check on her and give her water. When I awoke this morning, her gums were extremely white, and her head was flopping around like a rag doll again. If I sat her up on her own, she'd hold the pose for a second, then fall. I went and got some syrup from the fridge and we started giving her shots of it, along with water and some food. After a half hour holding her upright so the food and water could get to her tummy, Shayne was taking her to the doctor (I need to go to work today) to get checked out, and she was walking. He was in the livingroom so I told him to make noise, and she started to follow it, then once she got out there, she just started walking like last night, with her head pointed at the floor. She hit the couch, but avoided the coffee table.... He just text me from the doctorsaying her blood sugar was 160. Yepee....it's not 400 or 26! That's all I know for now..... there's the update!!! Thank you everyone SO MUCH for being there through all of this...it means the world to me!!!!!!!!!

01-10-2009, 10:43 AM	#12
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	It brings tears to my eyes just reading this. This is so sad. the poor little thing. I hope they can help her.

01-10-2009, 11:37 AM	#13
mk97 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Herndon, PA originally--Jacksonville, FL currently Posts: 169	I have a puppy that was diagnosed with mega-esophagus at 4-5 weeks old, it was recommended that she be put to sleep bc of her size/breed-he felt her prognosis would be very poor. Fast forward a few months-she is currently eating whatever she wants with no vomiting or problems. We redid the x-ray and she is growing out of it and should have a normal life with no future problems. I hope and pray that your little one will be as lucky as mine was.

01-10-2009, 07:15 PM	#15
Lillys_Mommy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 32	You people seriously have NO IDEA how much your responses mean to me!!!! The vet mentioned a possible liver problem to Shayne when he took her to the doctor today. She's not bumping into things anymore, pottying on her puppy pad, still walking a little drunk, but not terribly. She still walks the perimeter with her head down, but will look up if there's a new noise, or sometimes if we call her name. Doctor has us on a schedule working with Nutir-cal, as needed, food the vet gave us every 4 hours - feeding her with a syringe, and giving her water the same way. When we fed her at 8, I held her and Shayne held the syringe with food on the end of it up to her just to see what she'd do, and she sniffed it, then licked it! We both about cried, taking this intrest in eating when we offer as a sign of improvement. Then, when she walks, it's like she's trying to gagg herself occasionally, she puts her ears back, closes her eyes, and hunches over. After she eats, drinks, Nutri-cal...anything, I hold her upright for at least 10-15 minutes, patting her side, to help the food down. She did the gagging thing about an hour after we fed her, but this time she threw up. It was a little white foam, really clear with the littlest hint of yellow, with just a little food - barley any. She's definately keeping the food down, and is staying hydrated by the ammount she potties when she goes.... It's kjust the fact of getting her over this hump.... On a personal note: This is KILLING ME. After she threw up, Shayne and I were talking about how worried we are, and he said to prepair for the worst, which I refuse to do. To me, that's like if she makes it, great, if not, oh well. Like giving up on her, I REFUSE to do that. He's talking about if she's not better in a few days, put her down, no questions asked. I can't do that.... I'm not thinking like that. Not that I want her to suffer, but I want to give her body the time it needs to get back on track.... Sorry, had to vent a little, as our views are a little different, we aren't speeking at the moment..... I just don't know how this can happen to us..... We got our Lilly a month ago tomorrow.... This is just unreal.......