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Old 07-17-2014, 02:07 AM   #16
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Actually my Dill grows like a weed. The thing is it likes mild weather. Not too hot and not too cold. You can grow it in a pot, grows great in. And bring it in when it is too hot.
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Here is a company that has environmentally sound products for your garden. Love this company

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A little bit about our gardens.

We have a vegetable garden, herb garden, and a few 18th century flower and herb beds, and rose bed. We grow some heirloom variety vegetables. . . 6 types of tomatoes, peas, Kale, lettuces, eggplant, zucchini, 6 types of peppers to name a few. I am a big herb grower. I grow culinary and medicinal.

The biggest thing we did was rip out all the plants in the garden and decide to put in a 18th century period garden. Looking back at it. . . It was insane lol. Most flowers We had to grow from seed. Getting them from England, Canada and some historical sites. I mixed in some herbs in between like marshmallow. . . It is finally coming along

We lost some trees after Sandy and them a few more a few weeks ago. Some that effect my flower garden. I have some partly shade plants. . . So I will have to see how it goes. I might end up losing those. We have southern exposure . . . So now they are going to get beat down.

My DBF keeps bees. . . So there is a lot of pollination going on. Which is great.it is the weather right now that is not great. . . . It is going to get cooler the next few weeks . . Not good for the tomatoes.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:33 AM   #19
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I've started my dill indoors, and it's not really growing that well. One batch I moved outside and potted. They are so tiny still.

I'd love to see pics of your garden sounds so lovely! I started most my edibles from seed, but seeds I bought. I would have had some tomatoes by now but that fricken caterpillars!

Then yesterday I saw a pigeon eating my bird food. Those dirty sky rats! I wonder which birds are eating the caterpillar carcasses. I leave them up on top of the walls and they are always gone within a few hours. I have seen some lovely little song birds and hummingbirds too.
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Hi fellow gardeners! I am a master gardener and a certified as a desert landscaper. I garden in both AZ and Maine and design…love both places and ironically have several of the same plants in each of my gardens from zone 5b to 9-10 pretty crazy. I love to dig in the dirt!

Matese, I love the Herb tree that's awesome. I've lived in LV and it is a tough place to garden. The sun is harsh and the wind sometimes harsher with very low humidity. And the soil nearly impossible

I've been using grow boxes for some time in both locations…easy to deal with and fertilize and irrigate. I use The Garden Patch brand Grow box but Earth Box is another.

"The first season I had it I saw flowers disappearing INTO the ground, like the devil reached up and pulled them down. I researched thinking it was moles, came to find out it is VOLES. Just a heads up for anyone thinking about raised garden beds." -Matese

My experience w/ Voles is that you have to get someone to come out and capture and 'relocate' …It takes awhile but truly that is the only effective way to get rid of them, all the other gimmicky things are just that. You may want to call your county extension office and see if they have a list of people that do pest control and specifically set traps.

Capt. Noonie are your Desert Museum trees Palo Verdes?

Verbena I'd love to see some pictures of your period gardens. Sounds really wonderful. I am going to be doing a design this fall for beds for a very old property in Maine. I am very excited!
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Wow, so glad you chimed in! I need some advice from an expert! Yes my Desert museum is the palo verde. We are thinking about taking both of them out. I really like our Mesquite a lot better. It just looks so much more lush and grows way faster. Just hoping the caterpillars don't like the Mesquite or ever find it. It's weird, one of the Museums got eaten up but the other one that's like 5 feet away didn't.

We do have a lot of plants that are doing well. In fact only the eaten up museum is the only one.

So far we have:
Mesquite
2 Passi floras (not blooming though, can you offer insight?)
4 Cat's claw vines (2 under the patio cover, two on the roof deck)
6 Boston ivys (two are doing REALLY well!)
4 purple wisterias (doing so so)
2 Queen's wreath (also so so. Moved them into more shade, they seem happier)
1 Maverick tree (doing very well)
2 Humming bird bush/Firecracker growing like weeds
and then a ton of succulents on the roof deck that I don't know most of the names.

We had a bunch of stuff die too though. Ruelia (sp?), Parrots beak, countless veggies and herbs.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:43 PM   #22
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"Wow, so glad you chimed in! I need some advice from an expert! Yes my Desert museum is the palo verde. We are thinking about taking both of them out. I really like our Mesquite a lot better. It just looks so much more lush and grows way faster. Just hoping the caterpillars don't like the Mesquite or ever find it. It's weird, one of the Museums got eaten up but the other one that's like 5 feet away didn't." --capt noonie

(sorry but I can't figure out how to copy the quote…and I feel like I have seen that option. I just can't find it!)

Is your PassiFlora in a pot…they seem to be able to be easier to control fertilize etc. in a pot.
Re: you Desert Museum that's a shame they are so beautiful. I'd contact a MG at your county extension office…easier to email I think otherwise you could be in for a couple of weeks of telephone tag.
https://www.unce.unr.edu/programs/si...ener/southern/
There is a link on the left that says "ask a master gardener" if you can take a picture of the tree and the 'pest' that will help them chances are it's a problem in your neighborhood or the region. They can tell you what is the best way to treat them in your area. I love the Palo Verdes because there is less debris with them. I have a better Sonoran Emerald that is just gorgeous I'd be heartbroken if anything happened.

Smart to move your Queen's Wreath…sometimes it is all about location which can make you crazy especially if you want a plant for a specific location/effect. Sometimes they have a mind of their own. Make sure they have enough Potassium (the K number in the N-P-K)

Is everything irrigated in your yard? Ruelia is usually pretty hardy I find it does better w/ morning sun and afternoon shade? Do you grow your herbs and veggies in raised beds or in the ground?
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On the bottom right hand corner of each post you will see some buttons. The "Quote" one will quote that post. The next one with the "+ is the multi quote option. I think this forum allows you to multi quote up to three posts, so click that icon one each of the quotes you want to quote and that button will turn red. Then click the "quote" and it will take you to the next screen where you can reply to each.

The last button with the paper and quill is a "quick reply" option. You don't really need that one. It's the same as going down to the reply box at the bottom of the page.

Passifloras, yes they are potted. I read they are considered invasive in some climates, and even though they like semi moist, they are doing well. But NO blooms, which is what I love about them! But other wise they are growing pretty darn fast. Also there are a few passion fruit on the vines now. Am I supposed to pick them off while green or let them ripen on the vine? It's been months and they are still green and feel hollow.

As for the Desert Museum, I think we have made up our minds about taking them out. We just need to dig them out. They grow so slow and I love pruning LOL. I've pruned the Mesquite three times already since it's been put in (beginning of June). I love to prune it into crazy shapes.

Yes front and back is irrigated. Best invention ever. I still go out several times a day to inspect and look for those dreaded caterpillars.

Ruelia said on the tag full sun was ok. We put them on the roof deck and they totally died. Now we train new plants in shade until they seem ok and then move them into sun.

Herbs mostly are on the herb tree, which gets morning sun and afternoon shade. Veggies I started indoors, and then I move out to raised bed. Dill I started from seed and they are still tiny and wimpy looking. I prune them to grow more width, but still they grow so slow. Basil (Thai and Cinnamon) is doing very well. Both in raised bed and herb tree. Peppers were growing well, and producing well, then just stopped.
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[QUOTE=AZME;4466717]Hi fellow gardeners! I am a master gardener and a certified as a desert landscaper. I garden in both AZ and Maine and design…love both places and ironically have several of the same plants in each of my gardens from zone 5b to 9-10 pretty crazy. I love to dig in the dirt!I've been using grow boxes for some time in both locations…easy to deal with and fertilize and irrigate. I use The Garden Patch brand Grow box but Earth Box is another.
The first season I had it I saw flowers disappearing INTO the ground, like the devil reached up and pulled them down. I researched thinking it was moles, came to find out it is VOLES. Just a heads up for anyone thinking about raised garden beds." -Matese
My experience w/ Voles is that you have to get someone to come out and capture and 'relocate' …It takes awhile but truly that is the only effective way to get rid of them, all the other gimmicky things are just that. You may want to call your county extension office and see if they have a list of people that do pest control and specifically set traps.

My problem with Voles is...I am in a heavily wooded area, I traced one tunnel into the woods. There are several tunnels that go deeper into the woods, makes it difficult to trace them all. I will have to live with them and see what they don't like. Thank you for your help, nice to know we have an expert gardener on site.
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As for the Desert Museum, I think we have made up our minds about taking them out. We just need to dig them out. They grow so slow and I love pruning LOL. I've pruned the Mesquite three times already since it's been put in (beginning of June). I love to prune it into crazy shapes.
I am giving you a link to my favorite arborist in Phx. Guy rocks it…honest, intelligent and knows his stuff…he has a bunch of tree articles and blogs on his web site. Here is a good one on the do's and don't for healthy Trees

http://www.itreeservice.com/pdfs/article1.pdf

The crazy thing in the desert re: plants is many are grown in California. So the tags that reflect their "full sun" are not our Mojave or Sonoran Desert full sum. I lived in Vegas for 10 years before moving to AZ.
My favorite wholesaler also is a wholesaler in LV. Mountain States Nursery.
Links | Useful Resources | Mountain States Wholesale Nursery
I am linking what they have on their site for local nurseries which means they supply them plants (maybe not all but some) The great thing about Mountain State web site is that they have a plant database with information and pictures like nobody's business….It is the best! I use it all the time. Also if you see something on their site that they don't have I'd go to an independent like Plant World on W. Charleston and ask if they can you one. I work with a small nursery here and if I don't see what I want they find it and they use local growers so I know what I put in my yard or clients is AZ hardy makes a HUGE difference!

Thanks for the help with the quotes! I must be losing my eyesight!!! lol
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thanks so much for the links. I will go read them in a bit. I'm sure it's several hours worth of reading.

We go to Plant World only to look at the birds. LOL I find their prices high, and some outrageously so. Locally we buy from Star, or if something we think may not make it from Lowe's or Home Depot for their great return policy on plants.
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The only problem I have w/ Lowe's or HD they use growers in CA that don't always do so well in the desert and so that the culture doesn't match up …full sun etc. I only buy certain things there because while they do have a liberal return policy…if I commercially install something the labor to replace it ends up being worth buying a locally grown plant that I can pretty much count on. And I pick and choose. I check the sales I buy 1 gallon plants vs. 5 gallon…things like that. The other issue is that some of their growers use peat in their pots which when it dries out does not necessarily hydrate well in the desert. So I will buy things like verbena, succulents, and some desert adapted plants from their. Your county extension may have a plant sale. Usually they do once or twice a year and those plants are often from cuttings etc that master gardeners locally have grown. When we do ours everyone donates a certain number of plant-lings that they have grown or split or what have you…The prices are usually AMAZING!!!
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Yeah there was a plant sale at the Springs Preserve a few months back. But we didn't find anything we liked. It was still an enjoyable day tho.
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AZME, do you know about passi floras? I got two from Lowes. They already had blooms and full fruits on them. Since we got them, no more blooms. Flower pods are empty, ie they have the flower spots but inside are empty or fall off. Obv they had blooms and fruits before. Now not so much. Vines themselves are growing like crazy. They are in pots.

Also when we bought them, they had a few fruits attached. Eventually they fell off naturally. They were still green and hollow feeling. They turned purple ish later but were still hollow feeling then turned wrinkly.
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Great thread with lots of information...I've often thought it would be wonderful to be able to not only feed my own family and friends but to donate to a food pantry. Awesome...maybe in my retirement years.
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