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Britster · 02-11-2012, 09:54 PM

And nobody else ever understands.

I never wanna be that insane dog lady, but I guess sometimes I have to be.

We had a 40th bday for my aunt tonight at my uncle's big house. It wasn't terribly huge, but enough people for it to seem crowded. Maybe 30-40 people.

My uncle's got his 6 month old Shepherd, Bailey, and she did great. Loved all the people, and was just really chill and laid back. He kept giving her breaks and putting her in the basement and keeping an eye on her the whole time she was out. Being a good dog owner!

Well, my other uncle (shepherd uncle's brother lol) had a girl over, who he's known for years, dated on and off. She did not want to drive home in the snow so brought her 30lb 8 month old French Bulldog. He seemed sooo big for a Frenchie but he was adorable -full of energy. Dogs wrestled all night.

There was a few kids there. My little sister is 4 and did great - I've taught her, for the most part, how to act around dogs. Other two kids were WAY too grabby and rough and parents don't do ANYTHING. I saw this little girl grabbing the Frenchie (named Capone) face and not letting him go. Hugging him tightly, and all this stuff. Nobody is seeing this - I am. Capone's owner is barely watching her dog. I did tell her and she thanked me and got him for a while. It happened a few more times - being wayyyy too rough. Even though he's a rough and tumble dog and all, kid was just being ridiculous.

So then later when the kid actually WAS petting the dog gently and normally, the dog was DONE with the child and jumped up to bite her in the face (didn't tho), kids mother did see this and grabbed her kid up real quick just in time.

Later in the evening, a few are like "oh that dog is turning aggressive" and my mom got home and was like "that dog was getting really mean!" And I was like... uhmm... dog had a right to be, did you see what that kid was doing? My mom is like "she wasn't doing anything when I saw and he just jumped up and tried to bite her!" and I explained that this is what always happens... if that dog bit a kid, parent would get all pissed, and that's how dogs end up being taken from owners or put down or whatever. My moms like "Oh, that's great, so your sticking up for a dog over a kid..." Psh, you're darn right I am. Mistakes were made on the owner of the dog AND the mother of the child.

I just don't understand why people are such idiots and then I suddenly am made out to be the PETA loving animal freak or something? OK, sorry if I just have common sense. (Btw, I am NOT a fan of PETA lol, but my step-dad has joked sort of that one day I'm going to join them... ok, just because I care for the well fare of dogs, and other animals

). And I'm not even THAT crazy when it comes to animals - at least out in public, lol. But I will speak up if necessary.

It's why I did not bring Jackson over there. WAY too much going on. And if I had, and child treated my dog like that, I would've yelled at child and parent and given them the what for. lol. Basically, none of these people are bad people, in fact Capone's owner was really into her dog and treats him very well - she's always got him at the vet when he needs to be, gets him exercise, out and about, takes him to the dog park and all that. It's just tonight she was too distracted and not paying enough attention.

UGH. Vent over.

yorkietalkjilly · 02-11-2012, 10:21 PM

I'm just like you. Hate to see any dog mistreated by a child as the parents totally ignore it. A dog should not have to endure pain and fear at the hands of any human. Couldn't blame the dog if he had nipped! I'm with you!

BabyGirl Rosie · 02-12-2012, 06:58 AM

I am the same way. The child needs to be taught not to be aggressive toward the dog. Or the dog will be aggressive toward them. I am glad you did stand behind the pup. And it is ok to be called a PETA loving animal freak.

I am not a member of PETA but I will fight for animal rights within reason.

horsnaround · 02-12-2012, 06:58 AM

The dog needed your voice. He would have told the parents early on to keep there kids away. You did the right thing. Sounds like the dog should have stayed with a friend for the night. That could have ended so much worse.

brezofleur · 02-12-2012, 10:16 AM

It's ALWAYS the kid that doesn't have pets that are like this. The parents do not and sometimes cannot teach them the proper way to be around dogs.

Of course it typically goes much deeper than this that I won't go into, but I'm with you 100%.

And I'm sure if you had spoken to the parent, they would have given you a "mind your own business/don't tell how to raise my kid" BS... :/ Sorry you were in this situation.

Little mama · 02-12-2012, 11:12 AM

We has a house full this weekend, daughter,boyfriend,newborn, 4 yo boy,2 SIL,their husbands,2 girls,8 & 11. Plus my 2 boys and husband. We very RARELY have that many here. I was dreading this weekend because I was not sure how Allie would do. She's a barker and chaser when there are sudden movements. My boys r 14 & 16; so they don't run around the house anymore. I was pleasantly surprised at how calm and tolerant she was of all the noises and people. When she was laying in her bed in the middle of the room, I just told them to leave her alone, she was quiet and resting. When it comes to my kids and Allie, I always have their back and am aware of whats going on so no one gets hurt and aggravated. If anyone gets offended, too bad.

now house is quiet and Allie and I can let our guard down and relax!!

oneinabox · 02-12-2012, 11:29 AM

Britster.... you did a great thing!!! I have taught my kids to treat animals the way they want to be treated because its way more important for a pet to be treated properly as they can't tell you with words when something is being done that they don't like. My kids are like the pet police with our pets when other kids come over to play. On more than one occasion my 11 year old has sent a friend home after he yelled at his friend for chasing the cat or something lol!!!! Kudos to you for sticking up for the pet!!!!

Ellie May · 02-12-2012, 11:39 AM

Sigh. Yes.

It's my family's kids..and they all have dogs. The parents are making a choice to allow their children to do whatever they want with animals.

Kids: "Can we feed the dogs??"
Me: "NO".
Kids: (ever so quietly feeding the dogs anyway - including Ellie, the one that can't have treats!!!)

GAH!!

It's hard bc there is only so much you can supervise your dog. Mine were in a gated room and the kids were supposed to be with their parents eating dinner! After breaking up a dog fight over the food, and before inducing vomiting so E wouldn't get deathly ill, I told them that she could die bc of them and sorry isn't good enough. LOL. My mom yelled at them too. They are only 3, but they soooo know better. We take no crap from children messing with our dogs.

One time a child barked in Ellie's face like a dog. Ellie almost bit her face off. Wonder why she is such a grump.

yorkieusa · 02-12-2012, 11:49 AM

Monster kids! I agree with you, Brit. It's frustrating.

Sweet Girls · 02-12-2012, 12:21 PM

Britster - I so agree with you. And I'm an ECE...one of the things that drives me craziest is when people can't be bothered to supervise kids or pets...you have them, you brought them, YOU supervise them...its only an "ADULT ONLY" party when you don't bring them to begin with...can't bring them and expect someone else to supervise

And in my family, I'm afraid, I've always taken the dog's side...in fact when I was little (~3 years old) we had a Chi, and I got down on the floor and had my face in her face and who knows what I was doing...Dog bit me on the nose...didn't break the skin, but boy was I upset...my Dad's response? You shouldn't have your face in her face...she's a dog, how is she supposed to tell you to back off?? That dog and I went on to have the best of relationships, and I was heartbroken when she died peacefully of old age...

KazzyK810 · 02-12-2012, 12:30 PM

We would host hockey parties at my last house while I had my previous yorkie. So you're talking about 16 hockey players on the team plus their parents and siblings, all in my home. I never allowed her free run during that time for her own safety. If you want to enjoy the party and socialize, it's just too difficult with that many people to keep an eye on your dog CONSTANTLY and it only takes a second for something to go wrong.

Even now, unless it's just a VERY small gathering, my pup is locked away for her safety..... and my peace of mind.

Britster · 02-12-2012, 12:34 PM

Sad thing is this kid does live with dogs. FOUR of them. I told the mom straight up that she was messing with the dog, right after the dog almost bit her. And she was like "She wasn't doing anything!" and I said, oh she was earlier... all the kids were (just to make it seem 'nicer' that I wasn't putting full blame on her kid). She was just like... oh, she's used to dogs who don't care, that's why. Yah, don't care, until they bite her face off. Even if the dog doesn't care, NO dog should have to deal with that on a daily basis.

My little cousin who is only TWO treats kids better than this girl, and she's 3 1/2. My cousin who is 2 lives with a Pit Bull who loves this kid to death and would probably let him do anything to him, but doesn't mean my aunt allows it. She tells him no, that's not how Max (the pittie) wants to be treated. And it works out great!

Ugh, it's just so frustrating that IF by chance that dog did bite her face, and say she needed stitches... everyone would have been going on about evil and mean that dog was. And then I'd be the weirdo who "doesn't care about the kid, only the dog" or whatever.

KazzyK810 · 02-12-2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britster

I never wanna be that insane dog lady, but I guess sometimes I have to be.

It's better than being a crazy cat lady

lol

lynzy420 · 02-15-2012, 03:07 AM

I have seen it all where dogs are concerned, when multiple guests are over all of my pets go in to another room. I have my reasons but to avoid any problems whatsoever, I think this is the best situation.

When we visit other peoples homes our pets stay home or we stay at pet friendly hotel if need be.

I am a firm believer in this. Its best for all concerned.

jrsygal37 · 02-15-2012, 06:30 AM

It's very sad but a fact MANY dog bites are caused and didn't just happen and even sadder I
Are MANY dogs are put down for this when the incident was through no fault of their own. You have to wonder if those imposing the law when someone gets bit would sit still and do nothing if he or she were getting pinched pulled on or even hit yet this is what they are asking and expecting an ani
Al to do. Not very fair to punish a dog for protecting itself and had the owner been watching she would have seen the warnings. There are are always a warning first.

02-11-2012, 09:54 PM	#1
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	I CRINGE at situations like this. And nobody else ever understands. I never wanna be that insane dog lady, but I guess sometimes I have to be. We had a 40th bday for my aunt tonight at my uncle's big house. It wasn't terribly huge, but enough people for it to seem crowded. Maybe 30-40 people. My uncle's got his 6 month old Shepherd, Bailey, and she did great. Loved all the people, and was just really chill and laid back. He kept giving her breaks and putting her in the basement and keeping an eye on her the whole time she was out. Being a good dog owner! Well, my other uncle (shepherd uncle's brother lol) had a girl over, who he's known for years, dated on and off. She did not want to drive home in the snow so brought her 30lb 8 month old French Bulldog. He seemed sooo big for a Frenchie but he was adorable -full of energy. Dogs wrestled all night. There was a few kids there. My little sister is 4 and did great - I've taught her, for the most part, how to act around dogs. Other two kids were WAY too grabby and rough and parents don't do ANYTHING. I saw this little girl grabbing the Frenchie (named Capone) face and not letting him go. Hugging him tightly, and all this stuff. Nobody is seeing this - I am. Capone's owner is barely watching her dog. I did tell her and she thanked me and got him for a while. It happened a few more times - being wayyyy too rough. Even though he's a rough and tumble dog and all, kid was just being ridiculous. So then later when the kid actually WAS petting the dog gently and normally, the dog was DONE with the child and jumped up to bite her in the face (didn't tho), kids mother did see this and grabbed her kid up real quick just in time. Later in the evening, a few are like "oh that dog is turning aggressive" and my mom got home and was like "that dog was getting really mean!" And I was like... uhmm... dog had a right to be, did you see what that kid was doing? My mom is like "she wasn't doing anything when I saw and he just jumped up and tried to bite her!" and I explained that this is what always happens... if that dog bit a kid, parent would get all pissed, and that's how dogs end up being taken from owners or put down or whatever. My moms like "Oh, that's great, so your sticking up for a dog over a kid..." Psh, you're darn right I am. Mistakes were made on the owner of the dog AND the mother of the child. I just don't understand why people are such idiots and then I suddenly am made out to be the PETA loving animal freak or something? OK, sorry if I just have common sense. (Btw, I am NOT a fan of PETA lol, but my step-dad has joked sort of that one day I'm going to join them... ok, just because I care for the well fare of dogs, and other animals ). And I'm not even THAT crazy when it comes to animals - at least out in public, lol. But I will speak up if necessary. It's why I did not bring Jackson over there. WAY too much going on. And if I had, and child treated my dog like that, I would've yelled at child and parent and given them the what for. lol. Basically, none of these people are bad people, in fact Capone's owner was really into her dog and treats him very well - she's always got him at the vet when he needs to be, gets him exercise, out and about, takes him to the dog park and all that. It's just tonight she was too distracted and not paying enough attention. UGH. Vent over. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier Last edited by Britster; 02-11-2012 at 09:57 PM.

02-11-2012, 10:21 PM	#2
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	I'm just like you. Hate to see any dog mistreated by a child as the parents totally ignore it. A dog should not have to endure pain and fear at the hands of any human. Couldn't blame the dog if he had nipped! I'm with you! __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

02-12-2012, 06:58 AM	#3
BabyGirl Rosie I ♥ my girls! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: With My Yorkies Posts: 18,980	I am the same way. The child needs to be taught not to be aggressive toward the dog. Or the dog will be aggressive toward them. I am glad you did stand behind the pup. And it is ok to be called a PETA loving animal freak. I am not a member of PETA but I will fight for animal rights within reason. __________________ Momma to three sweet Yorkie girls Rosie Marie, Mikki Leigh , and Lily Mae Grace!

02-12-2012, 06:58 AM	#4
horsnaround ♥Trained by my pups♥ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: with my yorkies Posts: 11,722 Blog Entries: 1	The dog needed your voice. He would have told the parents early on to keep there kids away. You did the right thing. Sounds like the dog should have stayed with a friend for the night. That could have ended so much worse. __________________ loving life with my furry friends

02-12-2012, 10:16 AM	#5
brezofleur Donating YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 6,982	It's ALWAYS the kid that doesn't have pets that are like this. The parents do not and sometimes cannot teach them the proper way to be around dogs. Of course it typically goes much deeper than this that I won't go into, but I'm with you 100%. And I'm sure if you had spoken to the parent, they would have given you a "mind your own business/don't tell how to raise my kid" BS... :/ Sorry you were in this situation. __________________ Heather Zeus \| Thalia

02-12-2012, 11:12 AM	#6
Little mama Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ft myers,fl usa Posts: 169	We has a house full this weekend, daughter,boyfriend,newborn, 4 yo boy,2 SIL,their husbands,2 girls,8 & 11. Plus my 2 boys and husband. We very RARELY have that many here. I was dreading this weekend because I was not sure how Allie would do. She's a barker and chaser when there are sudden movements. My boys r 14 & 16; so they don't run around the house anymore. I was pleasantly surprised at how calm and tolerant she was of all the noises and people. When she was laying in her bed in the middle of the room, I just told them to leave her alone, she was quiet and resting. When it comes to my kids and Allie, I always have their back and am aware of whats going on so no one gets hurt and aggravated. If anyone gets offended, too bad. now house is quiet and Allie and I can let our guard down and relax!!

02-12-2012, 11:29 AM	#7
oneinabox Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Alpharetta GA Posts: 43	Britster.... you did a great thing!!! I have taught my kids to treat animals the way they want to be treated because its way more important for a pet to be treated properly as they can't tell you with words when something is being done that they don't like. My kids are like the pet police with our pets when other kids come over to play. On more than one occasion my 11 year old has sent a friend home after he yelled at his friend for chasing the cat or something lol!!!! Kudos to you for sticking up for the pet!!!! __________________ Buster and Zoe

02-12-2012, 11:39 AM	#8
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Sigh. Yes. It's my family's kids..and they all have dogs. The parents are making a choice to allow their children to do whatever they want with animals. Kids: "Can we feed the dogs??" Me: "NO". Kids: (ever so quietly feeding the dogs anyway - including Ellie, the one that can't have treats!!!) GAH!! It's hard bc there is only so much you can supervise your dog. Mine were in a gated room and the kids were supposed to be with their parents eating dinner! After breaking up a dog fight over the food, and before inducing vomiting so E wouldn't get deathly ill, I told them that she could die bc of them and sorry isn't good enough. LOL. My mom yelled at them too. They are only 3, but they soooo know better. We take no crap from children messing with our dogs. One time a child barked in Ellie's face like a dog. Ellie almost bit her face off. Wonder why she is such a grump. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

02-12-2012, 11:49 AM	#9
yorkieusa Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 21,173	Monster kids! I agree with you, Brit. It's frustrating. __________________ Karen Kacee Muffin 1991-2005 Rest in Peace My Little Angel

02-12-2012, 12:21 PM	#10
Sweet Girls YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario Posts: 273	Britster - I so agree with you. And I'm an ECE...one of the things that drives me craziest is when people can't be bothered to supervise kids or pets...you have them, you brought them, YOU supervise them...its only an "ADULT ONLY" party when you don't bring them to begin with...can't bring them and expect someone else to supervise And in my family, I'm afraid, I've always taken the dog's side...in fact when I was little (~3 years old) we had a Chi, and I got down on the floor and had my face in her face and who knows what I was doing...Dog bit me on the nose...didn't break the skin, but boy was I upset...my Dad's response? You shouldn't have your face in her face...she's a dog, how is she supposed to tell you to back off?? That dog and I went on to have the best of relationships, and I was heartbroken when she died peacefully of old age...

02-12-2012, 12:30 PM	#11
KazzyK810 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Michigan USA & Sheffield UK Posts: 4,119	We would host hockey parties at my last house while I had my previous yorkie. So you're talking about 16 hockey players on the team plus their parents and siblings, all in my home. I never allowed her free run during that time for her own safety. If you want to enjoy the party and socialize, it's just too difficult with that many people to keep an eye on your dog CONSTANTLY and it only takes a second for something to go wrong. Even now, unless it's just a VERY small gathering, my pup is locked away for her safety..... and my peace of mind. __________________ Karan & ZoE (Chelsea )

02-12-2012, 12:34 PM	#12
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	Sad thing is this kid does live with dogs. FOUR of them. I told the mom straight up that she was messing with the dog, right after the dog almost bit her. And she was like "She wasn't doing anything!" and I said, oh she was earlier... all the kids were (just to make it seem 'nicer' that I wasn't putting full blame on her kid). She was just like... oh, she's used to dogs who don't care, that's why. Yah, don't care, until they bite her face off. Even if the dog doesn't care, NO dog should have to deal with that on a daily basis. My little cousin who is only TWO treats kids better than this girl, and she's 3 1/2. My cousin who is 2 lives with a Pit Bull who loves this kid to death and would probably let him do anything to him, but doesn't mean my aunt allows it. She tells him no, that's not how Max (the pittie) wants to be treated. And it works out great! Ugh, it's just so frustrating that IF by chance that dog did bite her face, and say she needed stitches... everyone would have been going on about evil and mean that dog was. And then I'd be the weirdo who "doesn't care about the kid, only the dog" or whatever. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier

02-15-2012, 03:07 AM	#14
lynzy420 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Posts: 7,652	I have seen it all where dogs are concerned, when multiple guests are over all of my pets go in to another room. I have my reasons but to avoid any problems whatsoever, I think this is the best situation. When we visit other peoples homes our pets stay home or we stay at pet friendly hotel if need be. I am a firm believer in this. Its best for all concerned. __________________ The Above advice/comments/reviews are my personal opinions based on my own experience/education/investigation and research and you can take them any way you want to......Or NOT!!!

02-15-2012, 06:30 AM	#15
jrsygal37 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,370	It's very sad but a fact MANY dog bites are caused and didn't just happen and even sadder I Are MANY dogs are put down for this when the incident was through no fault of their own. You have to wonder if those imposing the law when someone gets bit would sit still and do nothing if he or she were getting pinched pulled on or even hit yet this is what they are asking and expecting an ani Al to do. Not very fair to punish a dog for protecting itself and had the owner been watching she would have seen the warnings. There are are always a warning first.