You guys, I cant stop crying. :(

[Jacklynn]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

i am asking you to put yourself in this dogs position. and i am asking you to rethink your comment. do you not feel the suffering that this dog went through? take a moment and think about it please. thanks.

What comment should I rethink? The fact that I think that it is important that we raise awareness as to who puppies get sold to and not place SOLE anger towards the lady. I never said she shouldn't be punished. All I was stating was that I think we need to place some responsiblity on the breeder or puppy store that sold her the pup even though she has a mental illness that would allow her to do such a thing.

My comment was in no way negative. I just think maybe there should be awareness as to how selective we should be when selling/rehoming our pups.

[yorkiepuppie]

Originally Posted by Jacklynn

What comment should I rethink? The fact that I think that it is important that we raise awareness as to who puppies get sold to and not place SOLE anger towards the lady. I never said she shouldn't be punished. All I was stating was that I think we need to place some responsiblity on the breeder or puppy store that sold her the pup even though she has a mental illness that would allow her to do such a thing.

My comment was in no way negative. I just think maybe there should be awareness as to how selective we should be when selling/rehoming our pups.

ok, i am sorry you felt attacked by my remarks, i am sure you are a loving person. (i mean, you do love yorkies afterall) i received a PM which is saying to me something pretty similar to what you are saying, so i am just going to copy and paste my response.

"i agree with you 100% that everyone has the right to write their opinions. and if that is what you believe, you should keep writing about it. but i think you are writing in the wrong thread, if you are trying to 'educate' people about metal illness, which is great and fine, it should be a separate posting with a link to it, so that people do not have to read it if they don't want to.

in my opinion, it's rather insensitive to write it in a thread where people are trying to deal with the shock, the anger, and the grief, for this little one.

i think what i am saying is fair because to be 100% honest, i would not even be this 'open-minded' about it if it were my dog. if it were my dog, i would tear you a new a**hole for saying what you said.

i applaud you for posting what you believe. i think that you should try to think about why people are so upset and saying the things they are saying.

you can talk to people about mental illness awareness, that would be great if you can educate the public on an issue that people don't know about. but you should respect peoples emotions, and give them room and time to grieve."

it's strange that you should suddenly be in pursuit of raising mental illness awareness? what have you done before this to raise awareness to mental illness? not to say that you can't start now, and you probably should since you feel strongly about it. you should do something to contribute to raise mental illness awareness. but there is the right place and time for everything. suddenly feeling the need to educate people about metal illness right now seems insensitive to me.

[bsimmons]

OK, no excuse, there is no excuse for harming any animal at all, don't get me wrong I'm so.. upset about this poor baby but... stop and think about what you are saying about people with mental illness of any type. Lock them all up, shouldn't be allow to have pets??? Are you so perfect you can cast stones. I'm as hurt by the pervious posts as reading about the situation that brought this all about. No, I don't have a mental illness, but i do have compassion and experience working in a world that is comprised of all types of people.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by bsimmons

OK, no excuse, there is no excuse for harming any animal at all, don't get me wrong I'm so.. upset about this poor baby but... stop and think about what you are saying about people with mental illness of any type. Lock them all up, shouldn't be allow to have pets??? Are you so perfect you can cast stones. I'm as hurt by the pervious posts as reading about the situation that brought this all about. No, I don't have a mental illness, but i do have compassion and experience working in a world that is comprised of all types of people.

I am sorry but I think anyone who is mentally ill enough to do something like this should be locked up in a mental hospital for life. I am a compassionate person but what if this would have been a child? Anyone who could do this is a danger to society

[IndianaGirl]

Originally Posted by chachi

I am sorry but I think anyone who is mentally ill enough to do something like this should be locked up in a mental hospital for life. I am a compassionate person but what if this would have been a child? Anyone who could do this is a danger to society

Im compassionate too, but your right, if your sick your sick and need to be put somewhere where you can't hurt anything, anybody or yourself.

[Baby Blessing]

I have copied and pasted the following from my previous posting here on this thread.

I would like to make a comment regarding mental illness and the care that is not available for them, or shall I say the lack of it being made available to those that can't afford it. My opinion is this, if our country geared itself to helping people with mental disorders and other serious conditions instead of the medical field being so dag gone greedy maybe many things wouldn't be happening that are. The medical cost care for anyone seeking any kind of treament is totally outragous. I pray that anyone needing the help of medical care for mental disorders will not be turned away in getting treatment, sad to say so many are every day, most likely many as I am typing this. This woman is one that needs help, and I pray that she gets the proper treatment and help, there are those who's condition is so severe and need to be in a controlled facility.

I purposely came on YT this morning to see how BoBo is doing and was sad to read that he has passed but know that he is now in with God in Heaven and our loved ones have now received another one of God's many Blessings to enjoy along with our Cassie and other furbabies.

I personally feel that our society has a responsability to seeing that those in need with mental illness should be PROPERLY CARED AND SEEN TO IN TREATMENT AND WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE this is not being done in our country. The first step anyone can do is let your legislatures know of this great need and start speaking up to the ones that can do something to change this dreadful situation in another direction.........GETTING PROPER HELP FOR THOSE IN NEED THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS.

My heart feels so much gratefullness to those that helped care for BoBo in trying to save him, but sometimes things are out of our hands and it was God's will to take him to his forever home.

Harsh feelings sometimes aren't beneficial and can only harbor ugliness, I was so sorry to read some of the things posted here and hope that many posted was not true feelings but only at the moment that of emotional statements out of love for BoBo. I really feel that to be the case.

Patti and Jack

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

you don't offend me!
i hope the annoying hypocritical people on the thread saying stuff about "oh, don't blame this woman, blame others. blah blah blah" can have the pleasure of being hog-tied and burnt to near death, and then on their death bed, i would like to hear them repeat themselves about how we should not blame the crazy, blah blah blah...

Excuse me, but I take offense to that too. I suffer from mental illness and I am CERTAINLY not crazy.

People do NOT understand what a mental illness does to a person and I am SICK AND TIRED of hearing people call that woman evil and everything else. SHE is not evil, her disease is.

Bobo probably had a great life up until then. The woman stopped her meds and for what reason, we don't know. It could have been that she couldn't afford them. She probably was having delusions, severe paranoia, was having hallucinations, or was in pyschosis.

No one should be judged unless you stand in their shoes and I have been in those shoes and this is why I'm talking like this. Unfortunately, the dog did have to suffer and it is a shame. I wish Bobo wouldn't have had such a traumatic experience and I really feel bad for him, but this was an uncontrolled situation. Her brain told her to do something awful and she did it. It's uncontrollable and it's a shame it had to happen. Say what you want to me. I don't really care.

So yorkiepuppie... since I suffer from a mental illness, should I be hog tied and burned to death?

How about everyone else that says that a mentally ill person should never be given a pet... what about Chip and Smokey...? Should I not have the privilege of owning them, because I have an illness?

If this woman was not mentally ill, I would be singing a different tune, but this woman was SICK.

[Tatiana11]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

Unfortunately, the dog did have to suffer and it is a shame. I wish Bobo wouldn't have had such a traumatic experience and I really feel bad for him, but this was an uncontrolled situation.

Unfortunately, I do not agree with you. "the dog" you refer to was a soul. A living soul, who could feel pain, suffering, love, devotion. He shouldn't have had to suffer because he was a adopted by a person who chose to stop taking their meds. SHE made the decision to stop her meds. SHE put him on the stove. And ultimately SHE KILLED HIM.

[yorkiepuppie]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

Excuse me, but I take offense to that too. I suffer from mental illness and I am CERTAINLY not crazy.

People do NOT understand what a mental illness does to a person and I am SICK AND TIRED of hearing people call that woman evil and everything else. SHE is not evil, her disease is.

Bobo probably had a great life up until then. The woman stopped her meds and for what reason, we don't know. It could have been that she couldn't afford them. She probably was having delusions, severe paranoia, was having hallucinations, or was in pyschosis.

No one should be judged unless you stand in their shoes and I have been in those shoes and this is why I'm talking like this. Unfortunately, the dog did have to suffer and it is a shame. I wish Bobo wouldn't have had such a traumatic experience and I really feel bad for him, but this was an uncontrolled situation. Her brain told her to do something awful and she did it. It's uncontrollable and it's a shame it had to happen. Say what you want to me. I don't really care.

So yorkiepuppie... since I suffer from a mental illness, should I be hog tied and burned to death?

How about everyone else that says that a mentally ill person should never be given a pet... what about Chip and Smokey...? Should I not have the privilege of owning them, because I have an illness?

yes, i would be offended too if i suffer from mental illness and people were attacking mental illness people. and no, i do not think you should suffer something so horrible!(you know i don't think that...i hope)
i just want to say that from other people's point of view, i think it's normal human reaction to say all the things that they are saying. but that's just how people deal with sadness and anger. and you know that as well as i do. (i think, i am of course making an assumption here) just as i think its very normal for you to be offended.
i just really think that people need to be able to vent, and name calling is obviously one way for many to deal with this sad/stressful event.
like right now, i can sit here and type this to you calmly, but it i go look at bobo's pictures again (there is a slide show of it, not sure if you've seen it) i know i would be too angry with this woman again.

we are emotional beings, and please know that those comments are not directed at you at all(you know this i think, but subconsciously it's hard not to get offended i know), it's how people deal with their emotions. i know it would be hard to not be offended, but put yourself in their(our) shoes. if you didn't have mental illness, don't you think you might just be in with the majority as well calling names at this woman to deal with your sadness/frustration/anger/helplessness/grief? i mean, is that not a possibility?

[Tatiana11]

And it was a controlled situation, she was on her meds and she was fine. Meaning she had access to medications that helped control her disease.

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by chachi

I am sorry but I think anyone who is mentally ill enough to do something like this should be locked up in a mental hospital for life. I am a compassionate person but what if this would have been a child? Anyone who could do this is a danger to society

So I should be locked away for life, because I'm a danger to society, because I have a mental illness...?

That is so not right...

[Tatiana11]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

yes, i would be offended too if i suffer from mental illness and people were attacking mental illness people. and no, i do not think you should suffer something so horrible!(you know i don't think that...i hope)
i just want to say that from other people's point of view, i think it's normal human reaction to say all the things that they are saying. but that's just how people deal with sadness and anger. and you know that as well as i do. (i think, i am of course making an assumption here) just as i think its very normal for you to be offended.
i just really think that people need to be able to vent, and name calling is obviously one way for many to deal with this sad/stressful event.
like right now, i can sit here and type this to you calmly, but it i go look at bobo's pictures again (there is a slide show of it, not sure if you've seen it) i know i would be too angry with this woman again.

we are emotional beings, and please know that those comments are not directed at you at all(you know this i think, but subconsciously it's hard not to get offended i know), it's how people deal with their emotions. i know it would be hard to not be offended, but put yourself in their(our) shoes. if you didn't have mental illness, don't you think you might just be in with the majority as well calling names at this woman to deal with your sadness/frustration/anger/helplessness/grief? i mean, is that not a possibility?

I agree. Ashley, I am sorry if you thought we were saying that all mentally ill people should be hog tied and burned, but I do think that an eye for an eye applies in this case. I work in the health care industry and know many mentally ill people, who live normal healthy lives without being a threat to themselves or society by taking the medications they need.
I do apologize that you felt offended, these comments were not directed at anyone but that women herself.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

So I should be locked away for life, because I'm a danger to society, because I have a mental illness...?

That is so not right...

I didnt say anyone that had mental illness but someone as severe as her yes. I also have mental illness by the way.

[Tatiana11]

Also she was in a good state of mind when she stopped her meds. She stopped them because she was gaining weight from them. Im sorry but she was fully aware of what she was doing when she stopped her meds.
I would gain all the weight in the world before I let myself be a danger to anyone, including Armani and myself.

[yorkiepuppie]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

So I should be locked away for life, because I'm a danger to society, because I have a mental illness...?

That is so not right...

hello ashley,

that's not what people are suggesting, please take a moment and put yourself in the position of people not suffering from mental illnesses. when we read these comments, we don't feel offended or attacked or take it personally. (i know you do, but is not people's intention) they are not at all talking about you.
not at all!