my yorkies are rare

[dezertblu]

O.K. I just finished reading most of this complex thread with good points made on both sides, so here is my point of view:

A very very long time ago, before Yorkies were "of a standard", they were a medium to larger sized dog, comprized of many different types of terrier, basically a mutt.....then someplace along the lines the people in higher society thought how cute it would be to have a smaller version as a fashion accessory. So the yorkie in time was bred down, all but doing away with the original sized yorkie and its original features. Now....last I heard God, the higher power...whatever you choose to know them as.....was the maker of animal profiles......so if once in a while he wants to kick out a colorful yorkie...who the hell am I to say thats a mistake! The only mistake or abomination here is that Man has made certain rules to try and govern how nature works........and sets standards that nature evidently isnt aware its supposed to stick to, because albinos happen, blues happen, chocolates happen...and yes Parti color and Biewers happen.....all on thier own even when the parents are two bred to standard creatures...this can only mean one thing.....Man must be wrong with its standards....as I really doubt God or nature is.

[darbygale]

[QUOTE=JeanieK]Trust me the parti colored dogs from the crownridge and Summit yorkies were DNA's many many times before they were accepted by AKC. They are not mixed breeds, the original Parti coloreds came from two champion yorkies. and they were DNA'd to prove that.

I am very interested in the above comments. What are the names of these two champions? Thanks.

[darbygale]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

No the DNA testing that was required in order to get these dogs registered was DNA testing to prove that the offspring came from the dam and sire that the they were claimed to have come from.

Every puppy in the litters were DNA tested and still are. If you want to register a litter of parti colored puppies, you have to have the parents and every puppy in the litter DNA'd. This is what they went through to get hese parti colored babies accepted by the AKC.

So if a parti colored puppy is AKC registered,f you can bet that it was DNA tested.

i have done my homeowrk on these puppies. I was not going to spend a lot of money to buy a dog that might have been half maltese. I went to the very origin of their existence, and bought from champion bloodlines.

The original breeders went to a lot of expense to get these dogs accepted by the AKC, and the AKC did not give in easily. It took many many generations of testing before they would register them.

Just because a puppy has been DNA tested, does not prove that there is not a breed other than yorkshire terrier someplace in the background. All it proves is who the sire and dam are. You could test sire and dam on parents, grandparents, etc. but could not go back far enough to prove there was not another breed bred to a yorkie.

[darbygale]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

The pedigrees are available at the AKC website, if you want to investigate this for yourself. I'm sure if you do a search under Crown Ridge or Summit, it will all come.

If you know who these first two champion dogs are, why don't you tell us and save us the trouble of trying to find it on the AKC website.

[darbygale]

[QUOTE=JeanieK]Sorry tried to add to my last post but was over the time limit.

I have no idea who Gloria Lipman is, but I do know that extensive testing was done before the Akc registered these dogs and they are pure yorkies


I can't believe as much as you claim to know that you do not know who Gloria Lipman is. She IS Nikko Kennels!!!!!!!!!

[Raymond's Mom]

Originally Posted by darbygale

If you know who these first two champion dogs are, why don't you tell us and save us the trouble of trying to find it on the AKC website.

My thoughts exactly!!!! I don't know that many of these people know the story of how the parti's started in CA!! I googled the two kennels that are always mentioned and came up with nothing. Again, I would also be interested in the early pedigrees of the parti's and I will bet that they originated with the Nikko kennel. As a side note, the bitch that produced the first parti at the Nikko kennel was not Nikko breeding and not from show stock. The sire was a Nikko dog.

[izzy816]

They are beautiful!

[JESSY_RN2B]

They are absolutely beautiful! BUT personally I would not spend a dime more than I would for a regular colored yorkie.

[JeanieK]

[QUOTE=darbygale][QUOTE=JeanieK]Sorry tried to add to my last post but was over the time limit.

I have no idea who Gloria Lipman is, but I do know that extensive testing was done before the Akc registered these dogs and they are pure yorkies


I can't believe as much as you claim to know that you do not know who Gloria Lipman is. She IS Nikko Kennels!!!!!!!!![/QUOT



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[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Raymond's Mom

My thoughts exactly!!!! I don't know that many of these people know the story of how the parti's started in CA!! I googled the two kennels that are always mentioned and came up with nothing. Again, I would also be interested in the early pedigrees of the parti's and I will bet that they originated with the Nikko kennel. As a side note, the bitch that produced the first parti at the Nikko kennel was not Nikko breeding and not from show stock. The sire was a Nikko dog.

I am not going to pay for the pedigree search for you. You can do that. I am confident that my dog is not a mix nad that isd really all that matters to me.

The first registered Parti is named Mickey Spillane. He is not deceased.

He is my Chachi's great grandfather. I would not buy any parti that was not a direct decendent of this line.

If you know where they started then why are you insisting that they are a mix with a maltese? The AKC did their job they DNA'd these dogs before they registered them as yorkies. After all they do have a reputation to uphold.

Some people will always be suspicious, it's their nature. But I am satisfied that my dogs came from a reputable breeder that did not mix in a maltese. She doesn't even own anything but yorkies.

Apparently your googler is broken. I googled Crownridge gems and it popped right up, Likewise with Summit yorkies.

www.crownridgegems.com www partiyorkies.com

[JeanieK]

[QUOTE=JeanieK]

Originally Posted by darbygale

I can't believe that as much as you calim to know you have never heard of Crownridge gems or Summit yorkies.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by dezertblu

O.K. I just finished reading most of this complex thread with good points made on both sides, so here is my point of view:

A very very long time ago, before Yorkies were "of a standard", they were a medium to larger sized dog, comprized of many different types of terrier, basically a mutt.....then someplace along the lines the people in higher society thought how cute it would be to have a smaller version as a fashion accessory. So the yorkie in time was bred down, all but doing away with the original sized yorkie and its original features. Now....last I heard God, the higher power...whatever you choose to know them as.....was the maker of animal profiles......so if once in a while he wants to kick out a colorful yorkie...who the hell am I to say thats a mistake! The only mistake or abomination here is that Man has made certain rules to try and govern how nature works........and sets standards that nature evidently isnt aware its supposed to stick to, because albinos happen, blues happen, chocolates happen...and yes Parti color and Biewers happen.....all on thier own even when the parents are two bred to standard creatures...this can only mean one thing.....Man must be wrong with its standards....as I really doubt God or nature is.

LOL "He" does seem to have a sense of humor doesn't "He"

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B

They are absolutely beautiful! BUT personally I would not spend a dime more than I would for a regular colored yorkie.

Some people like them, some people don't. I find it exciting to be in on the beginning of it all. There is no doubt in my mind that one day they will find their way to the show ring, whether it is through the YTCA, or through their own breed club.

Either way it doesn't matter to me.

[Raymond's Mom]

[QUOTE=JeanieK]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I can't believe that as much as you calim to know you have never heard of Crownridge gems or Summit yorkies.

Oh for heavens sake, I can't believe, for as much as you claim to know, you don't know where the parti's, other than Biewers, started in the U.S.

[Raymond's Mom]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I am not going to pay for the pedigree search for you. You can do that. I am confident that my dog is not a mix nad that isd really all that matters to me.

The first registered Parti is named Mickey Spillane. He is not deceased.

He is my Chachi's great grandfather. I would not buy any parti that was not a direct decendent of this line.

If you know where they started then why are you insisting that they are a mix with a maltese? The AKC did their job they DNA'd these dogs before they registered them as yorkies. After all they do have a reputation to uphold.

Some people will always be suspicious, it's their nature. But I am satisfied that my dogs came from a reputable breeder that did not mix in a maltese. She doesn't even own anything but yorkies.

Apparently your googler is broken. I googled Crownridge gems and it popped right up, Likewise with Summit yorkies.

www.crownridgegems.com www partiyorkies.com

Are the pedigrees of their foundation dogs listed on this web site? At a quick glance I didn't see them?