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Old 06-27-2005, 10:26 AM   #46
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This has been an interesting post to read. I think Natalie was just so upset for this little puppy that is why she posted. While some unkind things have been said about the "mall girl" I'm sure it's more out of frustration for her not knowing what a precious life she has depending on her. I know that when we got Bandit I didn't know a thing about Yorkies. My husband always wanted one, that was why we got him. When we got Tucker I was like a different person, I had researched and knew that a Yorkie was the breed I wanted. Once in a store my husband was holding Bandit and a little boy told his mother he wanted one. kenny made sure to tell them that they had better find out everything they could first about yorkies. He said "you have no idea how much work this little guy is" All we can do is take the time to educate people. We all had to start somewhere, none of us were born knowing all about yorkies. I for one love to talk about them and see people make an informed decision because I know they will have a "forever" family if they take the time to know what they are getting into. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "everyone should have a yorkie in their life" and I remember thinking, no they shouldn't, yorkies are not for everyone!
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Old 06-27-2005, 10:33 AM   #47
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What I am going to say will not be popular as I disagree with the majority of the posts here.

I won't get on my soapbox against calling people names like "dumb" and "stupid" and "idiotic" because the adults here know that they are setting an example for the younger members and they will behave as they feel is appropriate. I have been down that road as a member already pointed out.

I am not trying to defend her, but could it be that the girl with the new puppy was on her way home after having "just picked it up" and maybe stopped at the mall to buy the carrier and some other things for the puppy? I just believe in giving people I do not know the benefit of the doubt. She sounds like she was trying to be nice but was maybe a little overwhelmed by the attention and she didn't let anyone else hold the puppy, right?

I guess I just don't like the negative energy in this thread and wanted to show the other, hopefully, more positive side. I don't like to see puppies abused either but I don't think we have any evidence of abuse in this case.

I think Natalie did the right thing by referring her here to YT and I hope she takes the advice and becomes a member, but I hope she never reads this thread.
I agree with you, Kim. I'm also a person that gives people the benefit of a doubt. I always try to find the brighter side of any situation. IMO, she just didn't know or realize that such a young puppy being exposed like that would make her sick. Chances are, this is her first puppy. I believe that people do stupid things with out actually being stupid. I'm glad that Natalie told her about YT. She can get some very good information here and also share her stories of her new baby.
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You are so right. Not everyone should have a yorkie. I always discourage people now because I know what is involved and I am not sure there are many people who would take the time to find out what is necessary like most of us do.

I certainly understand Natalie's frustration, but I like the way Chachi put it, i.e., she was "uninformed" about the proper care of a 7 week old yorkie puppy.
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This has been an interesting post to read. I think Natalie was just so upset for this little puppy that is why she posted. While some unkind things have been said about the "mall girl" I'm sure it's more out of frustration for her not knowing what a precious life she has depending on her. I know that when we got Bandit I didn't know a thing about Yorkies. My husband always wanted one, that was why we got him. When we got Tucker I was like a different person, I had researched and knew that a Yorkie was the breed I wanted. Once in a store my husband was holding Bandit and a little boy told his mother he wanted one. kenny made sure to tell them that they had better find out everything they could first about yorkies. He said "you have no idea how much work this little guy is" All we can do is take the time to educate people. We all had to start somewhere, none of us were born knowing all about yorkies. I for one love to talk about them and see people make an informed decision because I know they will have a "forever" family if they take the time to know what they are getting into. I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said "everyone should have a yorkie in their life" and I remember thinking, no they shouldn't, yorkies are not for everyone!

Well said you took the words right out of my mouth.
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Sad part about the situation is when uninformed pet owner get a furbaby the furbaby is the one that may suffer. I hope she loves her yorkie as much as we all do and will join YT and become a great yorkie mom.
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I would assume (forgive me for assuming but its my opinion) that if this new owner purchased a pup from a pet store that she was given absolutely NO advice whatsoever. I've yet to see anyone knowledgable that works in a mall pet store.

I would also assume that if she did purchase from a pet store, that she probably had done no research online regarding yorkies or she would have known that she shouldn't support mall pet stores and puppy mills.

If she did no online research and only had the knowledge from the pet store, she would have no idea what dangers she was subjecting her poor pup to.

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First off, I did not know that you could turn my post into this. It was a spur of the moment thing and I thought I would share with you guys what I encountered at the mall. I was pretty upset. Of course, I used the term "dumb", which I would if I could, replace it with something else.

I give the benefit of the doubt to everyone, but you guys don't know the full conversation. So, I find it hypocritical and judgemental on your part because only half of the conversation was posted. And it was a conversation. It was not a 3-4 minute "Hi and Bye".

If you knew me well, you would know that I would not judge anyone without having something to judge them by. I would not want someone to do that to me, so why would I do it to them?

I agree with Carter's Mom on this. She doesn't know what she is subjecting that little 7-week old puppy too. I do not see how you can defend that. From what I learned here on YT, you cannot bring a puppy that young into public without a full set of shots regardless of what the situation is. There is no pet shop in the mall that I was in. If she learned about the puppy before she bought it, than she would know not to bring it out into the public and she would know the endangerments of doing so. I would have spent my time educating her but I was taking up too much time already and my friends were waiting for me. Instead, I told her to visit YorkieTalk.com if she ever has problems because small puppies are prone to illness and are hypoglycemic. She did not know what hypoglycemia was. Sorry to say, she may not be dumb but judging by her knowledge of Yorkies or lack thereof.. I feel bad for the puppy and it makes me upset that someone would not learn more about the breed before they jump on the wagon and buy one. And this is my personal opinion because that it was I did. I knew that I wanted a puppy but I did not go out and make an impulse buy. Instead, I learned about the breed and I had everything ready when Fred came home because that is where I took him right after I picked him up. I even posted about bringing him out in public and everyone responded with a "No way!". I wish others would do the same and learn about a puppy before they buy one.

If she was there to buy carriers and collars, than she was not prepared for it to come home. She would have went out and bought all her supplies beforehand and brought the puppy straight home. She is young and yes, I am assuming her ignorance.

She did not let anyone hold the puppy but she was letting everyone pet her puppy and play with it's paws. They were making kissy faces at her (the puppy). The puppy looked scared half to death!

I just hope she knows how fragile a 7-week old Toy breed that small could be. I hope she will love him as much as we all love our Yorkies. I wish she will learn more about him soon before her puppy has a hypoglycemic reaction and she will not know what to do.

If she reads this post, I honestly have nothing to hide. I would explain it to her in full detail. And I hope she comes to YT. She can learn alot because in my opinion, she has a lot to learn.

Please don't tell me that I am a judgemental person or that I am unfair. That is something I am not and I find it offensive that you would call me that without knowing me or what was said besides what was posted.

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You just said you got your Chi when the tacco bell dog got popular, was that not the "in" thing then????

Also I would hope that not all judge 18-19 year olds as being irresponsible. I was married at 18 worked full time to my hubby through university and was responisble pet owner. Both of my children were very responsible at the age of 18. Both held jobs and did well at school and helped me with my foster dogs. When there was a poll of age of members here most were yonger. I just don't like to stereotype people even when it comes to age.

First of all when I did get my chi chi's that was the "in thing" but I didn't say that was the reason I got my chi chi's. I did my research before I got them too. And I wasn't 18 or 19 years old. I also said that "the teens I know" I am not being a stereotype when I am talking about people I know. I corrected what I said in my other post. This is what I said:
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I think I was caught in the moment and said this the wrong way.

I was trying to say that young people look up to stars they see in movies or a music video and want to do what they see. Not saying that the star or who ever is not taking care of thier pup. These young people are seeing how cute the little pups are and they want one. I know some young people that have small puppies and they don't have a clue on what it takes to care for them. But if you ask them why did they get a puppy that small the reply is " I saw Lil Kim's video and she had one and I thought I would look cute." Now remember these are teens I know and I'm not saying all teens are this way just a few "I know". I just would like them to do their research 1st before making a comment they might not be ready to take on and to get a puppy for all the right reasons and not because they seen someone in a video and thought they would look cute.

I was talking about teens I know.
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Okay, here goes. If anyone is hurt, sorry. If not, glad. BUT, ask any teen about ANYTHING from cyber space-info, videos, latest styles, concert tickets and on and on and on and you will get such a rush of info you cannot begin to process it..Now, splain to me why we should allow that same teen to care for, own, deal with a living fragile animal like a 7 week old Yorkie and not expect her to put as much effort into researching this being.. I have grandchildren who can and do work rings around almost anyone I know googling a subject no matter how trivial.
Now, let's look at what is wrong with saying "She just didn't know!" OF COURSE, she didn't. And why? She didn't research on line. And is that because she didn't know how? No, that is not the case. Should she be allowed to drag a puppy around whom she did not get info on line about to look and buy something she most likely DID research on line. I am NOT SAYING THIS TO BE A FACT but does it sound reasonable?
IMO we should expect no less from our kids (or adults) when getting them a living being than when buying a prom dress or DVD or whatever on line. We should expect more, IMO. Her parents are responsible for supervising her and seeing that she did do her homework...they certainly would if they spent $1500.00 or more on another item..
Again, I do not know the facts, none of us do, but it would be a real pleasant surprise to have her join this or any forum to be educated....Do I think that will happen?? No. Would I like for that to happen? I would LOVE it!! And, I would write her an apology an inch high..

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Thank you whispersmom2 well said.
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I'm nineteen.. and have no clue about cyber space-info, videos, latest styles, concert tickets.. but i have 3 doggies... work a full-time job as a Nurse (LVN).. are you talking about meee??!!! lol just kidding
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I give up! I said teens I know. My kids friends unless you know my kids I am not talking about anyone else. I didn't mean to step on toes. I am sorry
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I'm nineteen.. and have no clue about cyber space-info, videos, latest styles, concert tickets.. but i have 3 doggies... work a full-time job as a Nurse (LVN).. are you talking about meee??!!! lol just kidding
Yorkie_Girl I know you are kidding. And I believe you are taking care of your doggies very well. Your are here with the rest of us learning and are so busy I have to give you a Keep up the good work!
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Yorkie girl, no I am not talking about you. I am talking about the bezillions of teens who can find the teeniest,weeniest most obscure item on the internet and will spend hours doing it. If someone is not puter literate, they cannot go thru a check-out line at a pet store without being deluged with breed-specific dog books and magazines..Library books are available, computers in libraries are free. There is no shortage of ways to inform ones self IF it is considered necessary.
BTW, Betcha you are one brilliant 19 y.o. who is mature for her age as is evident by the fact that you are a licensed visiting nurse at age 19...you go, girl..
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YorkieGirl, I am definitely in the same boat! I am 20, but I'm sure you will agree with me that most girls our age are obsessed with being "cool" and not focused on responsibility.

It takes a very mature person to have such a responsibility. It's like having a child! (as if i know what that's like).... But between working 40 hrs a week and trying to keep Rox happy, I am not going out on weekends. I haven't seen a movie this summer. I have seen 2 friends a handful of times. Roxy IS my priority... But I think very few people in my generation are up for the work.

Thank goodness I have parents who help me out-- or I wouldn't be able to do it.
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