I think I just bought a puppy mill Pup :(

[kalina82]

I just read thru this whole thread and I'm so glad you decided to keep him. he is adorable. My yorkie was 2 1/2 ounces at birth, 1lb 15oz at 13 weeks, and is now 4 lbs at 15 months. She's as skinny as a rail tho, and i would love to fatten her up a little. She's very small compared to other dogs and when we're out she scares me sometimes because she has no fear and doesn't realize she is so small. I too was like you when i was looking for a yorkie. My friend has a 3lb yorkie and i wanted one just like her. But now that i have Morgan i wish she was bigger.

Good luck with your little boy. He's very cute. Can't wait to hear what you decided to name him. The Innova food is an excellent choice. Since he's a baby i would leave the food out all day long or feed him 3 times a day, this way you won't have to worry about hypoglycemia. Don't worry about exercising him to much. Let him walk and run as much as he wants. With small dogs you don't have to worry about over doing it, and compromising their bone development.

Wait till he has all his distemper vaccines before letting him play with other dogs or before taking him places where other dogs have been. You don't want him to pick up something along the way and get sick. After he's had all his distemper vaccines you should take him everywhere with you so he gets used to different situations and different people. The kids may have scared him so next time if you see kids coming towards you pick him up. Then tell the kids to walk calmly over to him and let him sniff them before they start petting him. Let only one kid at a time pet him, too many kids can be overwhelming for such a small puppy. After he's comfortable with the kids you can put him down and let him mingle. My yorkie LOVES everything and everyone, sometimes a little too much. LOL i had her everywhere when she was little. The most critical period of dog socialization is up to 16 weeks. During this period you should try to expose him to all sorts of situations. Also work with him at home by rolling him over on his back while playing, putting your fingers in his ears and mouth, play with his toes and feet. basically 'torture' him so that he gets used to everything and he'll let you do anything you need to do to him (cut his nails, brush his teeth, groom him, and this helps with vet and grooming visits)

Neutering can actually be done as soon as the testicles have descended but with smaller dogs its recommended to wait until 5-6 months old because by then they should have more weight on them.

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by punkie

That's good to know. He likes it a lot. He's eating a lot more than when he was on Eukanuba. Maybe that's just because he's getting bigger now, LOL.

Does anyone's dogs twitch a lot when they sleep? I have never seen it to the degree of this little guy before. He twitches all the time when he sleeps and chews in his sleep and smacks his lips constantly. It's really bizarre.

hehe...maggie does this too. i think it is the cutest thing
!!!!!!

[Rosie 1]

SIZE...Is one of the things I hear all the time.. Everyone wants a 3# or less size yorkie.... WHY??? you have to be so careful with them.. I have Bumbie that is less than 3# could not go out with the bigger dogs till he was 8 months old as he was so small.. You have to watch people around that size of a dog.. I've had 2 of my tinny's I've sold to people be killed by being slammed in a door.. They get stepped on broken legs and just not meant to be for every house hold... A 7 pound yorkie is not a big dog.. I have cats bigger than that..

Health would be my main concern with the pup you bought.. I know puppymill people that feed their pups nothing but macaroni to keep them tinny till they get to new home.. Lovely puppy mill people.. NEVER BUY A DOG FROM A BREEDER WHO HAS MORE THAN ONE BREED OF DOGS... SEE ADULTS OR DON'T BUY.. ALL PUPS ARE CUTE YOUR NOT SAVING ANY PUP FROM A BAD BREEDER YOUR JUST ENCURAGING THEM TO BREED MORE WITH YOUR BUYING OF IT... ON GOING CYCLE OF PUPPYS FOR MONEY NO THOUGHT AS TO IMPROVING ON ANYTHING ONLY THE PRODUCTION OF LITTLE DOLLAR SIGNS AS THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TO THIS TYPE OF BREEDER.. Sorry for the yelling but your the one that will have to live out your life with this new little guy.. If you don't find another home for him...? If he develope health issues on top of what you just said.. You can count yourself lucky.. Hope you decide to keep him as poor little guy may if not a healthy dog end up in rescue. Then that's another sad story.....like this one...

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by Rosie 1

SIZE...Is one of the things I hear all the time.. Everyone wants a 3# or less size yorkie.... WHY??? you have to be so careful with them.. I have Bumbie that is less than 3# could not go out with the bigger dogs till he was 8 months old as he was so small.. You have to watch people around that size of a dog.. I've had 2 of my tinny's I've sold to people be killed by being slammed in a door.. They get stepped on broken legs and just not meant to be for every house hold... A 7 pound yorkie is not a big dog.. I have cats bigger than that..

Health would be my main concern with the pup you bought.. I know puppymill people that feed their pups nothing but macaroni to keep them tinny till they get to new home.. Lovely puppy mill people.. NEVER BUY A DOG FROM A BREEDER WHO HAS MORE THAN ONE BREED OF DOGS... SEE ADULTS OR DON'T BUY.. ALL PUPS ARE CUTE YOUR NOT SAVING ANY PUP FROM A BAD BREEDER YOUR JUST ENCURAGING THEM TO BREED MORE WITH YOUR BUYING OF IT... ON GOING CYCLE OF PUPPYS FOR MONEY NO THOUGHT AS TO IMPROVING ON ANYTHING ONLY THE PRODUCTION OF LITTLE DOLLAR SIGNS AS THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TO THIS TYPE OF BREEDER.. Sorry for the yelling but your the one that will have to live out your life with this new little guy.. If you don't find another home for him...? If he develope health issues on top of what you just said.. You can count yourself lucky.. Hope you decide to keep him as poor little guy may if not a healthy dog end up in rescue. Then that's another sad story.....like this one...

i take it you have not read the last few pages

[sweetr72]

Originally Posted by Rosie 1

SIZE...Is one of the things I hear all the time.. Everyone wants a 3# or less size yorkie.... WHY??? you have to be so careful with them.. I have Bumbie that is less than 3# could not go out with the bigger dogs till he was 8 months old as he was so small.. You have to watch people around that size of a dog.. I've had 2 of my tinny's I've sold to people be killed by being slammed in a door.. They get stepped on broken legs and just not meant to be for every house hold... A 7 pound yorkie is not a big dog.. I have cats bigger than that..

Health would be my main concern with the pup you bought.. I know puppymill people that feed their pups nothing but macaroni to keep them tinny till they get to new home.. Lovely puppy mill people.. NEVER BUY A DOG FROM A BREEDER WHO HAS MORE THAN ONE BREED OF DOGS... SEE ADULTS OR DON'T BUY.. ALL PUPS ARE CUTE YOUR NOT SAVING ANY PUP FROM A BAD BREEDER YOUR JUST ENCURAGING THEM TO BREED MORE WITH YOUR BUYING OF IT... ON GOING CYCLE OF PUPPYS FOR MONEY NO THOUGHT AS TO IMPROVING ON ANYTHING ONLY THE PRODUCTION OF LITTLE DOLLAR SIGNS AS THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TO THIS TYPE OF BREEDER.. Sorry for the yelling but your the one that will have to live out your life with this new little guy.. If you don't find another home for him...? If he develope health issues on top of what you just said.. You can count yourself lucky.. Hope you decide to keep him as poor little guy may if not a healthy dog end up in rescue. Then that's another sad story.....like this one...

She is keeping him...I wish people would read the whole thread before posting sometimes...

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by sweetr72

She is keeping him...I wish people would read the whole thread before posting sometimes...

i know...i'm guilty of it too tho but yes...this is one of those times when it might have been necessary

hehe...but i can't throw stones since i am guilty too LOL especially on the really loooooong threads like this one LOL

[sweetr72]

I know when they are long they get daunting..but I usually read the first two and the last two so I can see where things are at lol...oh well...I guess we arent perfect..hehe..

Dawn

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by sweetr72

I know when they are long they get daunting..but I usually read the first two and the last two so I can see where things are at lol...oh well...I guess we arent perfect..hehe..

Dawn

hehe...i guess that is one way to do it. never thought about that LOL

[punkie]

Originally Posted by Stella's mom

I feed Canidae kibble and either Canidae canned or Merrick. I haven't read all the post but I hope you decide to keep the pup. I have never heard a breeder guarantee the size/weight of a puppy since there are so many variables involved. Sometimes even seeing the parents isn't a promise your dog will be in their weight range. My daughter bought a pup and we saw it's parents but he has grown to a healty 9 lbs at 9 months, he was 2lb 9 oz at 8 weeks so she knew there was a possibility of him being out of the weight standard. I asked the breeder about his weight and she told me it had to come from back in his bloodline.

Yes, I have decided to keep him. I want to make sure that he'll be looked after and live a good life.
The only thing that worried me about Canidae was that it only came in all life stages. There was no puppy food by this brand and I wasn't really sure if puppies need different things than adults. I've heard arguments on both sides. What's your opinion on this?

[punkie]

Originally Posted by sweetr72

The smacking of the lips and twitching are very normal for my guys...for sure...Reece especially is very loud...Soleil my baby girl likes to run in her sleep lol...she cracks me right up!!

Dawn

She runs in her sleep??? LOL. Thats so weird and cute at the same time.

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by punkie

Yes, I have decided to keep him. I want to make sure that he'll be looked after and live a good life.
The only thing that worried me about Canidae was that it only came in all life stages. There was no puppy food by this brand and I wasn't really sure if puppies need different things than adults. I've heard arguments on both sides. What's your opinion on this?

i've never used it...so i know nothing about it. all i know is you need to make sure there aren't a lot of "fillers" or "by-products". you had a dane so you are familiar with fillers and by-products i'm sure...they cause bad gas in danes and a dane with gas...well....we need not talk about that LOL

anyway...i used Royal Canine and maggie went nuts for it. i have not heard anything bad about it. but we have 3 dogs and it is so hard to keep them on separate foods so i have switched maggie to the same thing our other dogs eat.

this is where we get it...i don't know if they are national or not...but i do know they ship their food too.

http://shopping.netsuite.com/delivermypetfood


it's great food and all of our dogs love it.

good luck

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by punkie

She runs in her sleep??? LOL. Thats so weird and cute at the same time.

my cocker will also whine in her sleep! she gets on these kicks where she is just making some awful noises...so i wake her up but she also runs, twitches, all that stuff

[BubblPopElectrc]

Originally Posted by sweetr72

She is keeping him...I wish people would read the whole thread before posting sometimes...

Not everyone has the time to read SIXTEEN pages.

Glad that you have decided to keep in, Punkie!

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

Not everyone has the time to read SIXTEEN pages.

LOL

[punkie]

Originally Posted by kalina82

I just read thru this whole thread and I'm so glad you decided to keep him. he is adorable. My yorkie was 2 1/2 ounces at birth, 1lb 15oz at 13 weeks, and is now 4 lbs at 15 months. She's as skinny as a rail tho, and i would love to fatten her up a little. She's very small compared to other dogs and when we're out she scares me sometimes because she has no fear and doesn't realize she is so small. I too was like you when i was looking for a yorkie. My friend has a 3lb yorkie and i wanted one just like her. But now that i have Morgan i wish she was bigger.

Good luck with your little boy. He's very cute. Can't wait to hear what you decided to name him. The Innova food is an excellent choice. Since he's a baby i would leave the food out all day long or feed him 3 times a day, this way you won't have to worry about hypoglycemia. Don't worry about exercising him to much. Let him walk and run as much as he wants. With small dogs you don't have to worry about over doing it, and compromising their bone development.

Wait till he has all his distemper vaccines before letting him play with other dogs or before taking him places where other dogs have been. You don't want him to pick up something along the way and get sick. After he's had all his distemper vaccines you should take him everywhere with you so he gets used to different situations and different people. The kids may have scared him so next time if you see kids coming towards you pick him up. Then tell the kids to walk calmly over to him and let him sniff them before they start petting him. Let only one kid at a time pet him, too many kids can be overwhelming for such a small puppy. After he's comfortable with the kids you can put him down and let him mingle. My yorkie LOVES everything and everyone, sometimes a little too much. LOL i had her everywhere when she was little. The most critical period of dog socialization is up to 16 weeks. During this period you should try to expose him to all sorts of situations. Also work with him at home by rolling him over on his back while playing, putting your fingers in his ears and mouth, play with his toes and feet. basically 'torture' him so that he gets used to everything and he'll let you do anything you need to do to him (cut his nails, brush his teeth, groom him, and this helps with vet and grooming visits)

Neutering can actually be done as soon as the testicles have descended but with smaller dogs its recommended to wait until 5-6 months old because by then they should have more weight on them.

Thanks for all the information. I have been leaving food out for him all day, but sometimes he forgets to eat I think, so I have to make sure he does. If I dunk my and in his food dish and hold it there, he is more inclined eat and sometimes I feed him out of my palm when he's too excited to eat. That usually works.

His nails definitely need cutting right now. I'm taking him to the vet tomorrow and hopefully she can do it for me. He needs to have a stool sample tested as well and go on something called revolution apparently. My vet said that all puppies do it. I've never had a puppy of my own before, so it's kind of new to me.

He's due for his second shot in about 3 weeks. I've been touching his feet as much as possible, because I heard that some Yorkies don't like that, so I'm trying to get him used to it. I worked with him today on sitting and staying and bribing him with treats. He did really well.

I want to have him neutered before he is fully mature so that he can get all of the benefits.

Thanks again for all the information