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CO_yorkie_momma · 07-01-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I understand a breeder NOT giving papers at the time of the sale..I do not do this..for one reason I allow the buyer a few weeks to make sure the match is good..second, if the agreement is to spay/neuter, I want to hold papers...BUT the pet owner is shown the actual papers and I make a copy
..makes the buyer feel better if they do not know me.

Papers may not be important to many...BUT that is not the point, if the agreement was for the breeder to provide papers after spaying..and the buyer paid the asking price, fullfilled their agreement..then there is no other side of the story...
When a breeder will not answer emails or phone calls to a buyer with a justified request, then there is only one valid reason I accept..they are dead.

TootiesMom · 07-01-2007, 02:52 PM

WOW!I too, looked into this breeder.... hopefully she will respond and this whole thing will be cleared up!
Good Luck
d

mistyinca · 07-01-2007, 03:01 PM

Michiko,

Thank you for sharing your experience. You do deserve to have your AKC papers, and I totally understand and agree with how important they are to you. I think it is very unprofessional for a breeder to not hold up her end of the contract (shame on her!). It sounds like you have been very patient and kind under the circumstances, and I don't know if I would have been so great about it

. I agree with what has been said before; I would take legal action.

Good luck

Sugar's Mom · 07-01-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pat022351

Dee, please don't EVER feel that way - you have a wonderful reputation - and from my contacts with you regarding purchasing a puppy, a well deserved one!!

thanks!!!!!!!!! Just don't forget about me LOL. I am as honest with people as I know how to be. for instance, i have a little girl for sale with a hernia that her new family (if she ever gets one) will have to be fixed. i am not trying to hide it . in fact, I just put on the other forum lowered and if anyone asks, they will be told about it. i am just blown away by what this breeder has donee. As I said, I, too, REALLY looked uo to her.

xBUTTERCUPx · 07-01-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by michiko

I actually made a comment on the review as well.

What review is everyone talking about?

mistyinca · 07-01-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jim n

You all are just too diplomatic. What could her defense be for holding the AKC papers for over five months and not returning phone calls and emails? There's no excuse for that.
You have no loyalty to her. You reported her here now report her to the AKC too. I read the breeders thread a couple on months ago when everyone was just gushing about how great Stacy and her dogs are. Selling a sick puppy and witholding AKC papers that have already been paid for doesn't sound like a very considerate breeder to me. Everyone wants to hear Stacy's side of the story. This thread has been active all day. I'm sure some of her friends must have called her by now...where is she?

jrsygal37 · 07-01-2007, 03:17 PM

Timmy (Re: Lilly) I know we spoke privately and you were hesitant to talk in a post about the whole Lilly thing but this may be a good time to tell the whole story about what you are going through with Lilly's health and how you were not told everything. Elaine

Timmy · 07-01-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Timmy (Re: Lilly) I know we spoke privately and you were hesitant to talk in a post about the whole Lilly thing but this may be a good time to tell the whole story about what you are going through with Lilly's health and how you were not told everything. Elaine

Hi Elaine - Yes you are right about that but just like Michiko I didn't want to say anything too soon because I wanted to give Stacy a opportunity to respond to my email.

Michiko - I applaud you for coming out and speaking your mind. I know we've spoken several times and I know how important these papers were to you. As I've told you several times I'm so sorry you are going through this.

Here is my story. I'm not the type to bash anyone and I don't want anyone to bash me. This is why I didn't come sooner. I purchased Lilly and yes I knew she had a heart murmur but wasn't aware it was as severe as it is since her for sale ad and what she personally told me ...Lilly needed no meds nor showed signs so I decided to get her. My kids have heart murmurs and they live a perfect normal life. Stacy is a great person and was great through everything UNTIL I got Lilly. When I found out that Lilly has possible PDA I emailed Stacy and told her what my vet said. I also asked her what her vet had to say about her murmur and she said that her vet said it was a stage 5...well that was a surprise to me because a stage 5 murmur is not good. I also asked if she had any x-rays done and she said she didn't because she didn't have the funds for it after she had to have her parents fixed.....understandable but I feel she should have said that to me and then I would have made the decision to adopt her or not.. I sent her another email asking for medical records...this was almost 2weeks ago and I haven't heard from her. I know Stacy can be a great person and she received me with arms wide open. All her babies were adorable and I know she loves them all. I just think something is wrong. Not sure what though. After all this I hold no grudge against her. I don't want my money back nor I want to take Lilly back. I just want her support. I don't think that was too much to ask for. Unbelievable I've only had Lilly for about 2 weeks and she is so attached to me just like I'm so attached to her and as I stated on my thread I'm going to do everything to save her. Although the price to save her was a shock but just like I told some of the girls here....she is so well worth it. Right now she's okay but with her condition they say she will not live past one and she's going to be 8 months old. She has a cardiologist appt on the 19th and her surgery will be scheduled immediately after that. Without the surgery she has no chance but with the surgery she will live a normal life.

Michiko, Des, Elaine, Kalina - thanks for your support!

Sadie's Mom · 07-01-2007, 03:55 PM

I'm so sorry that all of you are going through this. I hope that everything works out for you.

kalina82 · 07-01-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

Hi Elaine - Yes you are right about that but just like Michiko I didn't want to say anything too soon because I wanted to give Stacy a opportunity to respond to my email.

Michiko - I applaud you for coming out and speaking your mind. I know we've spoken several times and I know how important these papers were to you. As I've told you several times I'm so sorry you are going through this.

Here is my story. I'm not the type to bash anyone and I don't want anyone to bash me. This is why I didn't come sooner. I purchased Lilly and yes I knew she had a heart murmur but wasn't aware it was as severe as it is since her for sale ad and what she personally told me ...Lilly needed no meds nor showed signs so I decided to get her. My kids have heart murmurs and they live a perfect normal life. Stacy is a great person and was great through everything UNTIL I got Lilly. When I found out that Lilly has possible PDA I emailed Stacy and told her what my vet said. I also asked her what her vet had to say about her murmur and she said that her vet said it was a stage 5...well that was a surprise to me because a stage 5 murmur is not good. I also asked if she had any x-rays done and she said she didn't because she didn't have the funds for it after she had to have her parents fixed.....understandable but I feel she should have said that to me and then I would have made the decision to adopt her or not.. I sent her another email asking for medical records...this was almost 2weeks ago and I haven't heard from her. I know Stacy can be a great person and she received me with arms wide open. All her babies were adorable and I know she loves them all. I just think something is wrong. Not sure what though. After all this I hold no grudge against her. I don't want my money back nor I want to take Lilly back. I just want her support. I don't think that was too much to ask for. Unbelievable I've only had Lilly for about 2 weeks and she is so attached to me just like I'm so attached to her and as I stated on my thread I'm going to do everything to save her. Although the price to save her was a shock but just like I told some of the girls here....she is so well worth it. Right now she's okay but with her condition they say she will not live past one and she's going to be 8 months old. She has a cardiologist appt on the 19th and her surgery will be scheduled immediately after that. Without the surgery she has no chance but with the surgery she will live a normal life.

Michiko, Des, Elaine, Kalina - thanks for your support!

we appreciate your posting this as we know it is hard for you as well as the rest of us. I sincerely hope Lily's appointment and surgery go well so you will have that precious little girl for a long long time.

Timmy · 07-01-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kalina82

we appreciate your posting this as we know it is hard for you as well as the rest of us. I sincerely hope Lily's appointment and surgery go well so you will have that precious little girl for a long long time.

Thank you very much!! She's in the best hands possible....which is God. I have faith and I feel like I'm going to have her for a long time.

babi1542 · 07-01-2007, 06:24 PM

I am going through the same thing you two are. Sasha's breeder has never given me her AKC papers either. She is always giving me the run-around. I hope this matter gets settled soon and that everything is solved in a positive way.

ImCKN · 07-01-2007, 06:30 PM

You both are going through rough times with your babies and I am so sorry to hear about it. You are in our thoughts and prayers.

CO_yorkie_momma · 07-01-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by babi1542

I am going through the same thing you two are. Sasha's breeder has never given me her AKC papers either. She is always giving me the run-around. I hope this matter gets settled soon and that everything is solved in a positive way.

Sorry to hear about your problem too. Has the breeder given you a reason why you havent gotten your papers yet or are you being ignored by them? Maybe you can get some good tips from the posts here and you can get things resolved. Good luck.

Gingergirlsmom · 07-01-2007, 06:38 PM

wow, I don't know what to say about all of this. I'm just stunned

Timmy, I am so sorry to hear about your sick girl..that is heartbreaking and I pray that the surgery goes well. You are a wonderful person for giving a chance to this little baby who has been with you for such a short time.

Michiko, I can see that writing this was hard for you. You did a beautiful job of expressing your frustration and disappointment without bashing or getting petty... that says a lot about the kind of person you are.

I hope that all of this gets resolved.

07-01-2007, 02:52 PM	#47
TootiesMom and Hopeys Mom Too Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,109	WOW!I too, looked into this breeder.... hopefully she will respond and this whole thing will be cleared up! Good Luck d __________________ Donna's little herd.... Tooties Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?271687 Hopeys Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?448723 and Tinker, TBone(RIP) Laci .. OH, and Me-Kitty(RIP)

07-01-2007, 03:17 PM	#52
jrsygal37 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,370	Timmy Timmy (Re: Lilly) I know we spoke privately and you were hesitant to talk in a post about the whole Lilly thing but this may be a good time to tell the whole story about what you are going through with Lilly's health and how you were not told everything. Elaine

07-01-2007, 03:55 PM	#54
Sadie's Mom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 3,180	I'm so sorry that all of you are going through this. I hope that everything works out for you. __________________ Christie and Sadie

07-01-2007, 06:24 PM	#57
babi1542 Double Trouble Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,658	I am going through the same thing you two are. Sasha's breeder has never given me her AKC papers either. She is always giving me the run-around. I hope this matter gets settled soon and that everything is solved in a positive way. __________________ PEBBLES AND SASHA MY DOGS ARE NOT SPOILED...I'M JUST WELL TRAINED!

07-01-2007, 06:30 PM	#58
ImCKN Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 825	You both are going through rough times with your babies and I am so sorry to hear about it. You are in our thoughts and prayers. __________________ Charlene (Harley, Davie, Sonny, and Lexie's Mom) PLUS 8 beautiful puppies December 15, 2010 :

07-01-2007, 03:01 PM	#48
mistyinca No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 4,143 Blog Entries: 2	Michiko, Thank you for sharing your experience. You do deserve to have your AKC papers, and I totally understand and agree with how important they are to you. I think it is very unprofessional for a breeder to not hold up her end of the contract (shame on her!). It sounds like you have been very patient and kind under the circumstances, and I don't know if I would have been so great about it . I agree with what has been said before; I would take legal action. Good luck

07-01-2007, 06:38 PM	#60
Gingergirlsmom and Bernie's mom too!" Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 8,283	wow, I don't know what to say about all of this. I'm just stunned Timmy, I am so sorry to hear about your sick girl..that is heartbreaking and I pray that the surgery goes well. You are a wonderful person for giving a chance to this little baby who has been with you for such a short time. Michiko, I can see that writing this was hard for you. You did a beautiful job of expressing your frustration and disappointment without bashing or getting petty... that says a lot about the kind of person you are. I hope that all of this gets resolved. __________________ Ginger Bernie Fun Kitty