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Old 02-16-2007, 05:37 AM   #1
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Hello fellow Yorkie lovers ... I'm new to Yorkie Talk and need some advice
Has anyone ever traveled by air with their baby? I am scheduled to fly from New England to Fla on Tuesday and my boy will be my carry on luggage LOL to go under the seat. Any stories about experiences would be appreciated
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:44 AM   #2
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Welcome to Yorkie Talk!!!

My only experience flying with a pup was bringing Angel home from Kansas. She did really well, but wasn't crazy about the carrier. She much preferred being in my arms!! She did throw up at the end of the 2nd flight during our descent, but was fine afterwards.

The floor boards can get really cold during this time of year, so make sure your baby is warm with a nice blanket and probably a sweater as well. Depending on your flight crew, you might not be able to take your baby out during the flight. But, if your baby starts to whine - once you are airborn you should at least be able to put the carrier on your lap and comfort your pup (but you'll need to put him back under the seat for landing). Depending on how long the flight is, you can always put a piddle pad down on the bathroom floor and give them a chance to "go" as needed.

Hopefully you have already called the airline you are flying to make the reservation to carry on your pup. All airlines require this advance notice as they only allow two animals on board. And, you will have to go to the counter when you arrive at the airport to pay for carrying them on (anywhere from $50-90 each way). Some airlines require a heath certificate within 10 days from your vet as well. Make sure you have everything you need. Best to err on the side of doing too much rather than getting to the airport and being told you can't take your baby with you. Good luck!!
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Thanks for the info Luv...I have made all his flight arrangments, the sweater is a good idea I'll put one in his bag now so I don't forget
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Just wanted to let you know that I flown with my Bebe and it is fairly easy. Just be FORWARNED DO NOT TAKE YOUR YORKIE OUT OF THE CARRIER or they will have you ARRESTED!!hahahahha I got into it so bad with the flight attendtend that we almost reported him to the airline. We were boarding and putting the carrier under the seat and when you lay it down I had to rearrange hs blanket so he was comfortable. Now mind you-I took the dog and lifted him in my arm while I was bent over the carrier to rearrange the blanket and the flight attendent (male gay guy) was so nasty-he says MAM PUT THE DOG BACK IN THE CARRIER!!! I szid sir I am just rearranging his blanket and he is back in the carrier. I said trust me we know that you are not suppose to take them out. He says "WELL WHY DID YOU THEN MAME? I said SIR-he is back inthe carrier no problem here. So the jerk goes up to the CO-PILOT and has him come back and tell me I am not allowed to take the dog out of the carrier. By this time Iwas so embarressed that I wanted to cry. I said hes in the carrier-there is no problem here. The Co-Pilot was very nice but he says"people can be allergic to your pet and that is why you cannot take him out" I just looked at him and said "okay" My husband was so close to telling off the attendent but I begged him not to stoop to this jerks level that he was not worth it and apparently needed some attention. I PAID $130 for my furbaby to fly and was never so humiliated in my life. I said something to the reservations this time around booking our flight for our March trip but she just apologized. This was on Airtran. So beware-and cautious if you have to open the carrier for any reason. Our vet gave us a mild sedative for Bebe and I gave him a 1/4 of the pill but he never went to sleep and was fine but nervous the entire time we flew. I hand paint carriers for planes and the one I currently have works out great. It is wheeled so you can just roll them on board like a carry on. If interested check out my link below my name. Hope this helps you in anyway.
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I am a flight attendant for a major airline.

Unfortunately, the FAA rule is that the pet carrier must remain closed the entire flight. The FA was just doing his job-enforcing the rules.

However, I myself have traveled with my yorkie, and I always unzip it enough to keep my hand in there...

some crews are not as vigilant, others are militant about it. Sounds like your guy was the latter.

I have had airline staff treat me terribly while passriding with my yorkie. There is something about traveling with a dog that brings out the worst in some airline staff.

But I am always nice to my passengers with their fur babies, and many of us are.

The best thing you did was stay calm and not give him the argument he(FA) was looking for.
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Thank you StewartsLucy bc I needed to hear that to regain faith in the airline system. We had a wonderful flight out and the attendent was wonderful. I know they are doing their job-and respect all airline employees bc I know that your work is a very serious business after all the 9-11 horrors. I am a fed emp and have many friends with homeland sec & Immigrations and know how important you folks are. That is why I was so upset bc he made a federal case out of me lifting the dog up and rearranging a blanket. But as you said-there are some that are just not tolerant. I never owned a dog be4 Bebe -always had cats and didnt understand the dog world-so I know where they are coming from, but I would never be so determined to throw my wieght around as he was. I only mentioned that he was gay bc I think he wanted EVERYONE to know this and was using his position to get attention. He helped an elderly lady on board and was making a big deal about how beautiful she was and how sweet and yadda yadda yadda. So it was def a way for him to get the apparent needed attention he was seeking.
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Thank you sandshara!

Your guy sounds like a real winner! Some people do go power tripping.

My philosophy when I go to work is if I can make one person's day, it will all be worth it.

I remember during training, they told us it takes less energy to please someone than to upset someone. It wears me out to argue with someone. I just usually ask the pax, 'what can I do to make this better?" And then they usually tell me-and it is usually an easy solution for me. Problem solved.

I also believe in being more discreet. I would have come over to you and quietly explained that the carrier is supposed to remain closed for the duration. When you told me you were just trying to re-settle the blanket, I would have said OK! Just wanted to make sure you understood the rules. No need to get our feathers up.

One time I walked into my local Starbucks carrying my Molly, and the employee screamed across the room to me that my dog was not allowed in. I would have preferred if they just walked over to me to explain it, instead of having all eyes turn and look at me. (BTW, I had stopped in for coffee at that same one before and no one blinked an eye. I had my coffee outside on the patio.)
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Just wanted to let you know that I flown with my Bebe and it is fairly easy. Just be FORWARNED DO NOT TAKE YOUR YORKIE OUT OF THE CARRIER or they will have you ARRESTED!!hahahahha I got into it so bad with the flight attendtend that we almost reported him to the airline. We were boarding and putting the carrier under the seat and when you lay it down I had to rearrange hs blanket so he was comfortable. Now mind you-I took the dog and lifted him in my arm while I was bent over the carrier to rearrange the blanket and the flight attendent (male gay guy) was so nasty-he says MAM PUT THE DOG BACK IN THE CARRIER!!! I szid sir I am just rearranging his blanket and he is back in the carrier. I said trust me we know that you are not suppose to take them out. He says "WELL WHY DID YOU THEN MAME? I said SIR-he is back inthe carrier no problem here. So the jerk goes up to the CO-PILOT and has him come back and tell me I am not allowed to take the dog out of the carrier. By this time Iwas so embarressed that I wanted to cry. I said hes in the carrier-there is no problem here. The Co-Pilot was very nice but he says"people can be allergic to your pet and that is why you cannot take him out" I just looked at him and said "okay" My husband was so close to telling off the attendent but I begged him not to stoop to this jerks level that he was not worth it and apparently needed some attention. I PAID $130 for my furbaby to fly and was never so humiliated in my life. I said something to the reservations this time around booking our flight for our March trip but she just apologized. This was on Airtran. So beware-and cautious if you have to open the carrier for any reason. Our vet gave us a mild sedative for Bebe and I gave him a 1/4 of the pill but he never went to sleep and was fine but nervous the entire time we flew. I hand paint carriers for planes and the one I currently have works out great. It is wheeled so you can just roll them on board like a carry on. If interested check out my link below my name. Hope this helps you in anyway.
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Sorry to hijack your thread...but this I don't get this. There are people who are deathly allergic to certain scents and perfumes but are not allergic to dogs. So this is not a good excuse! I have flown all the time home with my dachshund girls as carry-on. They make such a stink about them being all the way under the seat (hidden). It also upsets me that I have to pay upwards of ($60) each way (only $50 for AirTran) and I can't even put the carrier in my lap. Yet (no offense to people with children) someone else can hold their child in their lap and pay nothing for them. *end rant*.

I would also suggest if you can going for a trial run to the airport just to get your dog use to the noise. Faith was very aggressive and hated strangers so I took her to the airport as a trial run. It paid off in the end because she was very quiet for all of my flights. However, waiting in the terminal was another story. She barked at every kid and anyone who sat next to me. She calmed down for the flight home though. I know she would do a lot better know since we have curbed her aggression problem. Also, don't feed your baby too much food after a certain time the night the day before. Be sure to pack a few bites and water so you can give them to your baby little by little during the day of the flight.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:31 AM   #9
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Good point Bornnygurl about being able to hold children in your lap without paying, the flight cost for my boy on Jet Blue was $50 each way...carry on luggage is carry on luggage right, as long as it fits under the seat in front you LOL
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[QUOTE=bornnygurl;957661]Sorry to hijack your thread...but this I don't get this. There are people who are deathly allergic to certain scents and perfumes but are not allergic to dogs. So this is not a good excuse! I have flown all the time home with my dachshund girls as carry-on. They make such a stink about them being all the way under the seat (hidden). It also upsets me that I have to pay upwards of ($60) each way (only $50 for AirTran) and I can't even put the carrier in my lap. Yet (no offense to people with children) someone else can hold their child in their lap and pay nothing for them. *end rant*. [QUOTE]

I feel the same way. If I have to pay to bring them on board, there should be a little more leniency. I disagree completely about needing to keep the carrier under the seat the entire flight as well. Anything else that is stowed only needs to remain that way during take-off and landing.

I have also heard that you are supposed to keep the dogs in the carrier at all times while inside the airport. I didn't do that either. While waiting for flights and as soon as the plane landed, she was in my arms!! I didn't have a single person say anything to me. On the Chicago-Detroit flight segment where the plane was full, I had the carrier on my lap the entire flight. The floor boards were just way too cold. I had an aisle seat and all 4 flight attendants walked by several times before the plane took off and no one said a word to me. It wasn't until we were descending and Angel got sick and started howling that anyone even knew I had a pup on board - and then the other passengers just wanted to see her.

Speaking of having an aisle seat - that is also a good idea as the space under the seat of the window seat gets much colder than an aisle does!
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In my manual (I am broken record here-work as a flt att), there is nothing to state the WHY the dog has to be kenneled.

Only that they must be for the entire flight (which includes boarding & deplaning).

So the allergy thing is not an accurate explanation as far as I am concerned.

I would venture to say it is the liability of the animal biting someone.

I know small kids were magnetically attracted to my yorkie,

but Molly did not care much for small kids and she would growl at them.
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This is probably wishful thinking. But I'm wondering if someday in the future pets will be allowed on their owners lap during a flight granted they have some sort of certificate for obedience training. I think this would be very fair and would make more sense of the rules.
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bornnygirl~

I wish this too, ,

but it will never happen, due to liabilities.

Pets are in a strange situation, other folks can't resist how cute your yorkie is and bombard with attention...could be a recipe for disaster.

Also, I already have had 2 different flights going to Tokyo where cat owners left the carrier unzipped enough to where the cat got out while owners were sleeping. Crew looking all over a 747 for missing cat~before cat starts chewing through some wires!
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I think that it's perfectly acceptable of the airlines to ask that a pet remains in it's carrier at all time. It's too risky to be up in the air to have anything happen.. and i'm sure it's also for the safety of our pets.

But, I think that we should be allowed to hold the carrier on our lap.. with it fully closed of course, that way our pups can feel more secure knowing that we are there with them.
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