Why tiny's over teapots?

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

I would keep right on loving it but I would never intentionally buy one that was going to huge. When we adopted our younger son, we were asked at the agency if we would take a retarded child. Not knowing they might have one but having been warned that they would ask that. As you probably knoww, my older biological son is severely retarded. so when they asked that, we told them no and explained about our other son. Then they said, well, what if you got one and then found out he had a problem or ended up disabled from an accident? we saif that is totally different. he would alrfeady be our son and we would roll with the punches. A few weeks later, they gave us this beatuiful,two year old boy and told us he MIGHT have problems. Seems the social workers couldn't agree. Some thought it was a cultural thing. Anyway, by the time he was three he was diagnosed with a learning disabily. He is my heart. AND, I have two beautiful grandchildren I never thought I would have. Long answer to your question but I know you get the point.

I do see your point - but I don't think most people with bigger yorkies know they're going to be the size they became....but good answer - we DO have to roll with the punches in life...things can always be worse and obsessing over size is just something I never did with my girls but I can understand people have preferences. Each his own right ???

I didn't know that about your son.... My sisters little boy was just recently diagnosed with autism and I couldn't love him more - actually I think I DO love him more because he's going to have so much to overcome....All the best to you and your family - you sound like you're an excellent mom....

and lol - I just saw there are new posts asking about.....drumroll - What SIZE is my yorkie going to be LOL - (those are the times I want to say - who cares as long as you have a healthy puppy !) but I know people DO care

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

I was only trying to "EDUCATE" myself
on the little ones..... I just wanted to understand more about them, however, people on here go into a frenzy when they are mentioned it seems.
I am not touchy at all regarding Buddy's size. I thought this site was to learn from. How can you learn when people just jump to conclusions when they see the word tiny! Lesson learned. I'll go elsewhere regarding them.

Carol & Buddy

Carol -- "only trying to educate yourself?" -- what is it you want to educate yourself on in regards to the little ones? Are you thinking about getting one? What are your expectations for answers? I am sorry -- I did not get any specific questions. In fact, in your original post you asked why they were in so much demand and went on to list some of their perceived inadequacies. Let's see, "extra special care, heartbreaking stories, health can be questionable, never entered my mind to look for one that was 1, 2, or 3 pounds, that is scary to me, etc." If you ONLY wanted to educate yourself on them, why not start a more positive sounding thread like, "For those of you who love your tinies, can you tell what makes them more special for you?" Something like that could have illicited a more positive response. How you ask what you ask makes A LOT OF DIFFERENCE and can determine the responses you get.
Then others jumped in and we wound up with people accusing those who like the little ones of wanting to make them fashion accessories, being influenced by Hilton and Simpson (Please! My love for the little ones started with two Yorkies my mom had long before those two were even born!), let's see what else? Status symbols, seeking attention? When I said I tote mine all over -- I did not mean I parade them about in public. The only place they go with me outside the property is to see the vet and drop my son off at school. At over 50, I am a little past the attention-seeking phase. Asking "what's the fascination" -- what is that about? Does anyone ask what's the fascination with any other description in the standard? I don't understand at all why people cannot except that people have different preferences. You should feel good about loving your larger Yorkie without worrying about why someone else loves their smaller one. No justification is needed for either one!

I also prefer pointed, erect ears; a silky, full length coat, the blue and gold colors; etc..... preferences. If I have a Yorkie that gets larger, droops its ears, winds up with a soft coat, or changes to a lighter color I will still love it (and HAVE!).... but my preferences remain. I prefer my own hair to be a nice auburn too but think all those other boxes of color on the shelf are nice too.

I love this site and have learned a lot but this is one topic I just can't figure. People do have a wide variety of personal preferences -- that is why they have breed standards to begin with.

Well, now I have written a novel -- sorry for being verbose. Have a wonderful Tuesday -- I had to scrape frost from my windows this AM -- it is cold even in FL!

[JACKSON'S MOMMY]

Chachi, with all due respect I stand by my statements.
I have seen some BEAUTIFUL large and small yorkies on this site (yours included) and there are people who project their own insucurities with there dogs by comparing them to others. They might not admit it but they do. Small to small, large to large, small to large, or large to small. Weither its size (what they expected vs what they ended up with), looks, temperment, hair (cotton or silky), color or what ever. I am not saying they don't love their dogs and wouldn't punch out someone who offended them (LOL) but it happens.

To answer the OP question:

People who choose and actually ENDED UP WITH a smaller yorkie got it because that is what they wanted and preferred over any of the other sizes. Its the same as asking why I got a Yorkie instead of a Chichuaua (or however you spell it). Its because a yorkie is what I wanted and preferred over all others.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by JACKSON'S MOMMY

To me asking these questions is like asking a pug owner why whould you get a dog with a squished face and sinus problems. EVERY dog and dog owner has preferences. And every dog as problems big or small. Like another poster said .. would you ask a chi owner this question? Would you ask a great dane owner this question?
"What made you get a dog that big... don't they run around your house and break your china?" Don't they slobber all over you messing up your clothes and stuff?"
I know stupid statements indeed but you know what "somebody loves and prefers it! I don't know why someone would want one of those dogs with the dreads or cords because that HAS to take a LOT of time and work, but obviously someone has the time and dedication and LOVE of the breed to do it.

And another question... WHY IS IS OK TO SAY TEAPOT BUT IT IS A MORTAL SIN TO SAY TEACUP??? WHEN DESCRIBING SIZE?

I think there is some serious hating going on here weither or not someone would admit it, otherwise why even bother asking these questions and making these statments about size if you didn't secretly care? Wanting a smaller yorkie is no different then wanting a small Chi, and wanting a larger yorkie is no different then wanting a beagle or some other smiliar size dog. And wanting either one doesn't matter as long as that dog is loved and cared for problems and benefits all rolled into one!

Very well put!

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by red98vett

HIGH FIVE From Baby Chanel to ehunney - rachelsyorkie - chachi - Tootiesmom and Blondie - !! (I would NOT let her do this if she was a tiny girl)

just to add yet ONE MORE comment a larger yorkie doesn't mean they're amazons - MY girls are different weights but they are the SAME length - when they stand side by side Chanel just has the bigger frame while Cheri is built more fragil - but people seem so 'Aware' of weights I just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

I guess I'm up to about $1.00 in this thread now ???

Haha! I LOVE this picture

[Nikki+2]

I, like must of us here, just love yorkies- regardless of size, ears, coloring, etc. It is certainly true that irresponsible breeders who breed strictly for tinies end up with unhealthy tinies. The flip side of that is there are plenty of backyard breeders who are turning out larger than standard yorkies. These breeders are not knowledgeable and may not be taking health into consideration- just how many puppies they can turn out. Many, many of us here have yorkies that we bought from these unknowledgable backyard breeders before we ourselves knew any better. Responsible breeders breed to the standard and for health. Yes, they will occasionally end up with pups larger or smaller than they expect. My point I guess is that larger does not mean healthier. Responsible breeders do not consistently turn out large yorkies. My 3 lb dog is healthier than my 10 lb dog. He also has a much sweeter personality and just has more of that yorkie personality that draws most of us to the breed to begin with. I bought my 10 lb dog from a very unknowledgeable backyard breeder before I knew any better. My 3 lb dog came from a breeder who's yorkies average 5 lbs. he just happened to turn out smaller. If a breeder consistantly turns out yorkies that are over standard or if they consistantly turn out yorkies that are extra tiny they are not a good breeder.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by ehunney

Haha! I LOVE this picture

Thank you !! I never get tired of seeing her water shots even after all this time - she really REALLY has a blast lol - I can't even SAY the word hose and water when I'm outside with her or she pitches a hissy fit....there's been so many days I walked too close to the hose and her whole demeaner goes into HOPEFUL mode ....if I ignore her she bosses me around till she gets to play - I can't ever say no to that face lol

and great post Nikki - this thread has been interesting that's for sure

[ehunney]

To be honest with everyone, I love the tinies! I think they are so adorable, petite and look like puppies forever. I adore them. BUT I also absolutely LOVE yorkies that are 6 pounds and over. They're cuddley and beautiful and like I said earlier in the thread, the most beautiful yorkies I've ever seen were 6 pounds and over. I don't see a problem with people wanting and loving tinies, I want one in the very near future, but I don't like the way people act like larger yorkies are defective, inferior, not as cute or attractive as tinies and not true yorkies simply because they're not 3 lbs. My tucker was only 4 lbs. and I get so offended when people insinuate that tinies are somehow superior to larger yorkies. It saddens me that people can't see beauty in all sizes

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by ehunney

To be honest with everyone, I love the tinies! I think they are so adorable, petite and look like puppies forever. I adore them. BUT I also absolutely LOVE yorkies that are 6 pounds and over. They're cuddley and beautiful and like I said earlier in the thread, the most beautiful yorkies I've ever seen were 6 pounds and over. I don't see a problem with people wanting and loving tinies, I want one in the very near future, but I don't like the way people act like larger yorkies are defective, inferior, not as cute or attractive as tinies and not true yorkies simply because they're not 3 lbs. My tucker was only 4 lbs. and I get so offended when people insinuate that tinies are somehow superior to larger yorkies. It saddens me that people can't see beauty in all sizes

I TOTALLY Agree with this post. Thanks for speaking up for the beautiful, loveable, NON teacups lol

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I TOTALLY Agree with this post. Thanks for speaking up for the beautiful, loveable, NON teacups lol

No problem! And if you ever decide to clone your girls,give me a call, LOL!

[JACKSON'S MOMMY]

Weither my Jaxson turns out to be large or small .... I don't let ignorant people offend me or my dog.
and Jaxson just lifts his little leg and pee's on them and there remarks!

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by ehunney

To be honest with everyone, I love the tinies! I think they are so adorable, petite and look like puppies forever. I adore them. BUT I also absolutely LOVE yorkies that are 6 pounds and over. They're cuddley and beautiful and like I said earlier in the thread, the most beautiful yorkies I've ever seen were 6 pounds and over. I don't see a problem with people wanting and loving tinies, I want one in the very near future, but I don't like the way people act like larger yorkies are defective, inferior, not as cute or attractive as tinies and not true yorkies simply because they're not 3 lbs. My tucker was only 4 lbs. and I get so offended when people insinuate that tinies are somehow superior to larger yorkies. It saddens me that people can't see beauty in all sizes

I completely agree! If we're talking strictly looks, there are beautiful yorkies both large and small and there are not as beautiful yorkies of all sizes. Smaller does NOT mean prettier. I keep my larger yorkie, Gracie, in a full coat and in my opinion she is beautiful. I keep Sugar in a puppy coat and he is a cutie but not what you think of when you think of a picture perfect yorkie.

hee, hee- edited to add, if you're looking at my avatar you're thinking, Gracie does not have a full coat- it's an old picture.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by ehunney

No problem! And if you ever decide to clone your girls,give me a call, LOL!

I bet lots of us think - if we could WE WOULD lol - you're so sweet.

[BamaFan121s]

HA! Whoever would have thought over 5 pounds was "huge"

[ChicagoSoul]

I agree that a big component of wanting to buy a smaller yorkie is a desire to always have a puppy on hand. For many people, having a dog is quid pro quo for having a baby. So, the smaller the dog is, the closer it comes to resembling it.

People marry later than they used to; they decide to have kids after their carrear is taken care of. At the same time, maternal instincts don't wait. Biological clock starts ticking before one is done building their new home and getting this big promotion at work.

Having a puppy always, allows busy people, especially females, to postpone having children without completely burying the idea of being parents when the biological time requires it.

It is fortunate and unfortunate that even the tiniest dogs like mine, for example (she is 2 lbs.), don't require of their owners nearly as much effort and time commitment as a human baby demands.

My Manya eats by herself, sleeps by herself, she can stay home alone when I am at work without much trouble as well as she is potty trained and thus does not require her diapers to be changed. She also does not demand me to leave work and to stay on the maternity leave to account for sleepless nights and breastfeeding schedule with 2-3 hour breaks in between feedings.

So, a small dog like her allows her owner to experience the best element of maternity - the exchange of unconditional love between a smaller living thing and its caretaker - without any huge detriment to one's chosen lifestyle.

This is the most emotionally rewarding experience ever! While one has to wait years before her child is old enough to be enjoyed, ownership of a puppy starts generating emotional reward instantaneously.

So, I believe that our generation's delay in having a family is one of the primary reasons for popularity of tiny yorkies.

I also believe that the fact that their is a huge demand for tinies in spite of their inflated prices is a proof of that. One needs to have a fairly comfortable lifestyle to be able to afford not just buying a yorkie that costs at least $2,500 and more, but to be able to maintain this puppy.

It's good that some people can make their own clothes for their babies because when I wanted to buy stuff for a tiny yorkie, there was not much out there in cheaper chain stores. Petsmarts and Petcos don't sell clothes that fit tiny yorkies. You have to go to boutiques. Even there, I had a great difficulty finding something that would fit her.

As a result, I had to pay top money to get clothes for my baby to be able to keep her warm in winter months. Manya's coats are $ 75 +, her sweaters are at least $ 50, her harnesses and leads are also a special kind that would not only be small enough to fit her, but also be made from the quality material that won't damage her chest and tiny bones. So, it costs a lot to maintain a smaller baby. Therefore, I believe that most people who buy a smaller yorkie, are at the time in their life where they can afford such an expense much easier.

While there are people that consider buying a smaller yorkie to be status symbol, I believe it is more of an exception than the rule.