Wanna buy from a petstore?

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by Brookef18

First off let me just say I know pet shops are not the best place to get a puppy... I know the risk now and don't recommend pet shops. That being said, I feel if you do get your baby at a pet shop you are saving a little life that needs love. I feel that these little ones do not deserve to spend their lives in a cage wanting and needing love. I know about the mom's and Dad's in the mills but I can not turn my back on pet store pups, and let them just go rot in a cage.

There are two sides to this topic and I see both points....but I am frustrated that some people think, and pretty much say... ALL pet stores sell puppy mill dogs. Maybe most do ... but the FACT is you have no idea where they get their dogs because you are not going to the place where the pups came from to check it out! More then likely yes it is a puppy mill but you really don't knowfor SURE... Yet you talk like you do!

I talk like I do? Everyone who knows ANYTHING about pet stores know that majority of them buy from puppymills. Do you honestly think that their buying from that very dedicated breeder you met at a dog show? No. If it's not from a puppymill, it's still from unreputable breeders just doing it for the money, which is still wrong. Don't even say I talk like I know everything when I'm not. I'm simply posting the facts. Like I said, I'm not trying to offend anyone. And that's great that your furbaby is healthy. Of course those little puppy's in the window diserve a loving family. It's not there fault that they were born into a puppymill. There is nothing wrong with saving them. Just remember, buy buying a pet-store puppy you are at risk for putting yourself through more heartache then if you buy from a reputable breeder. I have two friends who recently bought pups this spring from Petland. That is where my boyfriend was planning on buying me my yorkie. As soon as I googled Petland, I made him get back his deposit ASAP. I wasn't going to take any chance of going through any heartache of getting a sick pup. Even though I know two people who bought dogs from them recently and there dogs are as healthy as can be, it's still not worth the chance too me.

Also some people talk as if all dogs from pet shops will get sick and either need tons of money to get them well, or their pet will die at a young age. Yet many puppies live a full life as a loving pet and never get sick or die at young age... A few owners on YT have talked about this from experience. They are talking from FACT! I'm sure some pet store dogs do get sick...But so do dogs from breeders.

Getting a sick puppy can happen no matter where you get the pup from, the best breeder on earth, or a puppymill. But chances are greater that the pup will get sick if it's in a petstore. Puppymill pups do not have as much attention devoted to them as a reputable breeders litter. With this, there goes the lack of medical care too.

I know my pup probably came from a puppy mill. I know heMAY get sick and need more care and cost more, or maybe even die...I can't even bare to think any more on that. I know that with any pet there is no predicting how long you will have them ... some run away some get hurt, and some get sick. So since none of us know how long a pet will live FOR SURE, Can't we try to agree that these little fur babies...no matter where they come from are the most wonderful little babies and we are all so lucky to have them.

No one is saying that your not as lucky as someone who brought from a reputable breeder, alls thats being said is the risks of buying from a petstore. Of course you can't predict how long your pet will be with you. You can't predict life for anyone. But like I already said, why greater the risk of getting a sick pup and putting yourself through that heartache, and why support these puppymills? Because why your saving that one puppy from the store, their making another, and the bitch and dog of that pup is going through more pain and suffering.

You know, there will not be a point where every one here agrees completely on this matter... I see now that not every one will understand where I am coming from or others that have their babies from pet stores. And it is hurtful when people are mean or judgmental about it. But I look at this differently from some of you (Maybe all of you) I feel I saved Chewy from where he was... He deserved a good home and I fell in love with him.
I have a different view is all. I won't try to change any ones mind. But I think it's ok to have my own opinion on this and hope I'm not making any enemies here...

I think most on here do understand the concept of saving the pups from the petstore, and that's great that you feel that way, were just seeing the other side of it, the side I honestly think YOU don't understand. No ones hating you for buying from a petstore, alls we try to do on here is spread knowledge about these places. You were lucky with Chewy, go onto the site and read the stories, then try to convince these people that it's OK to buy from a petstore.

IF you read back through some of these posts, people who would save a pet store pup are made to feel like they are WRONG. I don't know if I believe there is a right or wrong answer here... I think different people have different views and they should all be respected.

By my initial post I wasn't trying to insult anyone. I honestly don't care who you buy from. I can't control anyones actions, and don't expect to control anyones actions. But I do believe in spreading awareness about these sick places. I dont' think anyone else on here is trying to control anyones actions either, but I can't speak for others. But your first post in this thread you automatically made it like it was out too get you, so don't think like that. And if you want us to respect you (I still haven't seen any posts disrespecting you) then you need to show the same for us who care for the dogs in the puppymills and don't want to see them suffer.

At 46 years old I am tired of people trying to tell me what to think, how to act, and who I am. I know how I feel and I am fine with the person I am.

Is this a YT problem or a personal problem?

I'm not a bad person if I buy from a pet store. I'm not a better person if I buy from a breeder.

Did I say or imply that you were? Maybe someone else should answer this, because right away you seemed to think I was trying to start something with people who did buy from petstores.

I would buy a pup from where ever, if I saw one I wanted to save...a good breeder is ideal but I would do what ever to save a little one and make a loving home for it. I'm sorry if this offends any one ... it's not meant to. But I will not change my thoughts or feelings. I'm not mad or anything. I just wish there was a freedom and respect to let people be who they are on this issue!

I respect your decisions, I don't look down on anyone who buys from petstores, just try to inform them. You also gotta let us have freedom and respect our thoughts on petstores though too.

[Brookef18]

Rae Rae, I was not talking to YOU in regards to your post... You asked why I didn't like the thread. The truth is I have been on a few of these threads and some people are not nice and have put down any one who bought a puppy at a pet store. I chose not to name names to prevent bad feelings!

I am sorry if I offend you. My answer was not meant to be directed to you... It was in response to all the threads in general. I can see why you would think i was talking to you because i used the quote from your post. i don't like threads like this in general.

It is hard to hear people say that pet store dogs are sickly and will probably die while I'm sitting here looking at my baby hoping he will be fine. Honestly every one I know has gotten healthy pups from the pet store. My vet seems to think Chewy is fine...That is not to say some dont get sick... I'm sure many do also. Just none that I know. So yeah I get upset...when people are upset with me or any one that has chosen to buy from a pet store. But I do respect and completely understand how many feel about pet stores and I see their point and would not try to change their minds...

I'm sorry I upset you I really didn't men to direct this at any one in pedicular...

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by Brookef18

Rae Rae, I was not talking to YOU in regards to your post... You asked why I didn't like the thread. The truth is I have been on a few of these threads and some people are not nice and have put down any one who bought a puppy at a pet store. I chose not to name names to prevent bad feelings!

I am sorry if I offend you. My answer was not meant to be directed to you... It was in response to all the threads in general. I can see why you would think i was talking to you because i used the quote from your post. i don't like threads like this in general.

It is hard to hear people say that pet store dogs are sickly and will probably die while I'm sitting here looking at my baby hoping he will be fine. Honestly every one I know has gotten healthy pups from the pet store. My vet seems to think Chewy is fine...That is not to say some dont get sick... I'm sure many do also. Just none that I know. So yeah I get upset...when people are upset with me or any one that has chosen to buy from a pet store. But I do respect and completely understand how many feel about pet stores and I see their point and would not try to change their minds...

I'm sorry I upset you I really didn't men to direct this at any one in pedicular...

It's OK, I'm sorry too. You're right, because you quoted me I thought you meant I was being mean, and I really wasn't trying to, just spreading the word on these poor babies. No one has a right to judge you because you bought from a petstore (or for any reason at that matter). You had the babies in best interest, and thats what counts It is a very hard debate though, do you save the puppies and continue supporting mills, or leave those poor babies in the store to suffer and discontinue supporting mills.

[Brookef18]

Originally Posted by Rae Rae

It's OK, I'm sorry too. You're right, because you quoted me I thought you meant I was being mean, and I really wasn't trying to, just spreading the word on these poor babies. No one has a right to judge you because you bought from a petstore (or for any reason at that matter). You had the babies in best interest, and thats what counts It is a very hard debate though, do you save the puppies and continue supporting mills, or leave those poor babies in the store to suffer and discontinue supporting mills.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.. My fault~! it's just hard. When I got chewy I didnt know about puppy mills or my thinking may have been different. But now that we have him, and he truly is the best little guy ever... I can't turn my back on the poor babies in the stores... i don't want to be part of the problem but these poor little darlings are in the stores wanting love... there is no easy answer on this topic... Thanks for understanding....
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[POOH & DESTINY]

Originally Posted by Brookef18

First off let me just say I know pet shops are not the best place to get a puppy... I know the risk now and don't recommend pet shops. That being said, I feel if you do get your baby at a pet shop you are saving a little life that needs love. I feel that these little ones do not deserve to spend their lives in a cage wanting and needing love. I know about the mom's and Dad's in the mills but I can not turn my back on pet store pups, and let them just go rot in a cage.

There are two sides to this topic and I see both points....but I am frustrated that some people think, and pretty much say... ALL pet stores sell puppy mill dogs. Maybe most do ... but the FACT is you have no idea where they get their dogs because you are not going to the place where the pups came from to check it out! More then likely yes it is a puppy mill but you really don't knowfor SURE... Yet you talk like you do!

Also some people talk as if all dogs from pet shops will get sick and either need tons of money to get them well, or their pet will die at a young age. Yet many puppies live a full life as a loving pet and never get sick or die at young age... A few owners on YT have talked about this from experience. They are talking from FACT! I'm sure some pet store dogs do get sick...But so do dogs from breeders.

I know my pup probably came from a puppy mill. I know heMAY get sick and need more care and cost more, or maybe even die...I can't even bare to think any more on that. I know that with any pet there is no predicting how long you will have them ... some run away some get hurt, and some get sick. So since none of us know how long a pet will live FOR SURE, Can't we try to agree that these little fur babies...no matter where they come from are the most wonderful little babies and we are all so lucky to have them.

You know, there will not be a point where every one here agrees completely on this matter... I see now that not every one will understand where I am coming from or others that have their babies from pet stores. And it is hurtful when people are mean or judgmental about it. But I look at this differently from some of you (Maybe all of you) I feel I saved Chewy from where he was... He deserved a good home and I fell in love with him.
I have a different view is all. I won't try to change any ones mind. But I think it's ok to have my own opinion on this and hope I'm not making any enemies here...

IF you read back through some of these posts, people who would save a pet store pup are made to feel like they are WRONG. I don't know if I believe there is a right or wrong answer here... I think different people have different views and they should all be respected. At 46 years old I am tired of people trying to tell me what to think, how to act, and who I am. I know how I feel and I am fine with the person I am. I'm not a bad person if I buy from a pet store. I'm not a better person if I buy from a breeder.

I would buy a pup from where ever, if I saw one I wanted to save...a good breeder is ideal but I would do what ever to save a little one and make a loving home for it. I'm sorry if this offends any one ... it's not meant to. But I will not change my thoughts or feelings. I'm not mad or anything. I just wish there was a freedom and respect to let people be who they are on this issue!

I agree with both sides here. I do feel that most Pet Stores buy from puppy mills and are bad, but I also feel like buying a puppy from the Pet Store is saving that puppies life. Throughout this thread I see many people saying don't buy from pet stores and i get it but on the other hand I don't. Puppy mills are there we all know this we know the harsh conditions these animals suffer just for a quick buck so why not buy that puppy and put an end to his/her suffering. I don't know about anyone else but if I were a puppy that came from the mill and is now in the pet store, I would pray for a loving family to come rescue me and end my struggle. I believe a sick puppy would rather spend his last few days here in the company of people who love and care for him/her. I have a question to those people who want to boycott these Pet Stores. If tomorrow came and the boycott was successful, and all Pet Store and Puppy Mills were out of business then what? Would you contribute in any way to rescue the thousands of animals that were left behind? If so how?

[Brookef18]

Originally Posted by POOH & DESTINY

I agree with both sides here. I do feel that most Pet Stores buy from puppy mills and are bad, but I also feel like buying a puppy from the Pet Store is saving that puppies life. Throughout this thread I see many people saying don't buy from pet stores and i get it but on the other hand I don't. Puppy mills are there we all know this we know the harsh conditions these animals suffer just for a quick buck so why not buy that puppy and put an end to his/her suffering. I don't know about anyone else but if I were a puppy that came from the mill and is now in the pet store, I would pray for a loving family to come rescue me and end my struggle. I believe a sick puppy would rather spend his last few days here in the company of people who love and care for him/her. I have a question to those people who want to boycott these Pet Stores. If tomorrow came and the boycott was successful, and all Pet Store and Puppy Mills were out of business then what? Would you contribute in any way to rescue the thousands of animals that were left behind? If so how?

I'm sure tons of people would rescue those pups in a heart beat... People don't have anything against the pups... they just want the mills closed down. Unfortunately The pups are paying a high price So are their parents!...There is no easy answer... it's a heart breaking problem.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Rae Rae

How persuasive!



http://www.puppymillrescue.com/chris...s_for_sale.htm

Now your 100% sure all these puppies are sick right? And if you buy from a breeder theres going to be no problems with that pup right?


Brookef18 Quote:

Hun you can can say this over and over same as I did .They dont care how you feel If you dont agree with what they feel is right .Then their not Happy...I agree with every thing you said. and no need to be sorry, You have a right to say how you feel. And some can talk very nice about it but believe me they still think your wrong.......
No one knows that all the puppies at Petstores come from mills .I talked to our petstores and most of theirs come from breeders.

[POOH & DESTINY]

Originally Posted by Brookef18

I'm sure tons of people would rescue those pups in a heart beat... People don't have anything against the pups... they just want the mills closed down. Unfortunately The pups are paying a high price So are their parents!...There is no easy answer... it's a heart breaking problem.

THIS IS MY POINT EXCATLY. TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE ITS ALL ABOUT WHO GETS THE MONEY.If WE ALL CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE LIFE AND WELL BEING OF A PUPPY WHY WOULD WE JUMP TO RESCUE THE "FREE" PUP IN A HEART BEAT BUT WHEN IT COMES TO "BUYING" THAT SAME PUP ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE IS SUCH A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION SURROUNDING . i BELIEVE BOYCOTTING WILL MAKE THE SITUATION WORST AND MAKE THE ANIMALS SUFFER MORE.

[sweetr72]

When I was 16 my first job was a pet store...I can tell you for a fact that ALL puppies were from puppy mills and we buried MORE than were sold...it was sick..sick...sick!!! When I came to work in the morning my stomache would flip flop all the way there because I was afraid to see which puppies were dead THAT morning. There are alot of practices that I wont bother to mention as they are too grusome to tell. The "heathier" ones were sold, but let me tell you, MOST of those ones were on the brink of death for a few weeks before they pulled through and went in the display glass to be sold. As soon as the pups showed even one good day of health..boom..they were put up for sale. I wanted to quit soooooooooooo bad but my dad wouldnt let me quit as I was paying off my first car...I ended up getting myself fired (little does Dad know to this day I got myself fired) within a couple months that store went out of business...but there are millions more out there and that was 18 years ago!!

I also wanted to ad that the pet store owner told EVERYONE that these purebred pups came from reputable breeders!! No one that came in ever questioned that statement...EVER!!

Dawn

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by sweetr72

When I was 16 my first job was a pet store...I can tell you for a fact that ALL puppies were from puppy mills and we buried MORE than were sold...it was sick..sick...sick!!! When I came to work in the morning my stomache would flip flop all the way there because I was afraid to see which puppies were dead THAT morning. There are alot of practices that I wont bother to mention as they are too grusome to tell. The "heathier" ones were sold, but let me tell you, MOST of those ones were on the brink of death for a few weeks before they pulled through and went in the display glass to be sold. As soon as the pups showed even one good day of health..boom..they were put up for sale. I wanted to quit soooooooooooo bad but my dad wouldnt let me quit as I was paying off my first car...I ended up getting myself fired (little does Dad know to this day I got myself fired) within a couple months that store went out of business...but there are millions more out there and that was 18 years ago!!

I also wanted to ad that the pet store owner told EVERYONE that these purebred pups came from reputable breeders!! No one that came in ever questioned that statement...EVER!!

Dawn

how freakin sick I felt reading that.

That's exactly why people need EDUCATION - we can only talk about the pitfalls about Pet Stores and Mills - we can't make people stay away but the more it's said - the more people are possible reached that may not know where the puppies in Shops come from

it IS a personal decision whether to buy or not to buy at a Pet Store...to save or not to save.

I hope everyone knows when I get on my soapbox I mean NO offense to the puppies bought in stores - I'm very glad they have good homes and love....but there is a bigger picture and people NEED TO KNOW THIS....that's why the many threads about this same subject

You guys who have a Pet Shop puppy please look a it this way.....We have threads about tinies more prone to illness - we see LOTS of this - 'HELP - MY TINY IS SICK !! What about the people with HEALTHY Tinies ?? Should they be upset ??

we have threads about people unhappy with SIZE ..HELP - MY YORKIE IS TOO BIG- Should people like ME be upset cause my Chanel is Ummmmmm.... 'voluptious' ???? No.... (and that one DOES get on my nerves sometimes but I would never say anything) When I see posts about big yorkies - what I want say is 'Just BE GLAD YOU HAVE A HEALTHY DOG " ...

I look at it this way - lets get upset at the people we should be upset at - mills, Pet Stores & unethical breeders who don't give a D**n....places like Wizard of Claws or The Jeff Danes of the world.... the people who intentionally BREED tinies.

If someone feels hurt - think of the thousands of puppies out there at the mercy of the many places I just mentioned....and try to remember - we aren't putting down the people who 'saved' a dog -

we're putting down the people that MASS BREED AND SELL THESE DOGS without caring one bit about how many die in the process...

[red98vett]

Maybe a better SHORTER post should be 'Don't shoot the messinger !!"

HUGS ALL AROUND ???????? Especially to you ''PET STORE' PEOPLE (meant in the NICEST WAY) ok....You RESCUE people - you know we love ya !

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by Brookef18

Sorry for the misunderstanding.. My fault~! it's just hard. When I got chewy I didnt know about puppy mills or my thinking may have been different. But now that we have him, and he truly is the best little guy ever... I can't turn my back on the poor babies in the stores... i don't want to be part of the problem but these poor little darlings are in the stores wanting love... there is no easy answer on this topic... Thanks for understanding....
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No problem. I wish I could save all those petstores puppies too, but I don't want to put myself through the heartache, that's why I just avoid going to petstores that sells puppies all together. When I did go into petland I wanted this s**tzu puppy sooo bad..the only thing that held me back was I didn't have enough cash, and because I was in the process of getting a mortgage I wasn't allowed to finance anything. Of course, after I googled petland I knew I was better off with out her. Like I told my boyfriend, those puppies are soo cute but I feel I myself am better off not knowing their fate

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by POOH & DESTINY

I agree with both sides here. I do feel that most Pet Stores buy from puppy mills and are bad, but I also feel like buying a puppy from the Pet Store is saving that puppies life. Throughout this thread I see many people saying don't buy from pet stores and i get it but on the other hand I don't. Puppy mills are there we all know this we know the harsh conditions these animals suffer just for a quick buck so why not buy that puppy and put an end to his/her suffering. I don't know about anyone else but if I were a puppy that came from the mill and is now in the pet store, I would pray for a loving family to come rescue me and end my struggle. I believe a sick puppy would rather spend his last few days here in the company of people who love and care for him/her. I have a question to those people who want to boycott these Pet Stores. If tomorrow came and the boycott was successful, and all Pet Store and Puppy Mills were out of business then what? Would you contribute in any way to rescue the thousands of animals that were left behind? If so how?

I would love to adopt an animal from a shelter. If the petstores had to give up all their puppies, of course I would take one. I would love to take more, but I don't think bf will allow that right now. I would even adopt a dog from a puppymill, depending on the special needs because I don't know if I would have the time, and financial resources to care for him/her.

[Rae Rae]

Originally Posted by red98vett

how freakin sick I felt reading that.

That's exactly why people need EDUCATION - we can only talk about the pitfalls about Pet Stores and Mills - we can't make people stay away but the more it's said - the more people are possible reached that may not know where the puppies in Shops come from

it IS a personal decision whether to buy or not to buy at a Pet Store...to save or not to save.

I hope everyone knows when I get on my soapbox I mean NO offense to the puppies bought in stores - I'm very glad they have good homes and love....but there is a bigger picture and people NEED TO KNOW THIS....that's why the many threads about this same subject

You guys who have a Pet Shop puppy please look a it this way.....We have threads about tinies more prone to illness - we see LOTS of this - 'HELP - MY TINY IS SICK !! What about the people with HEALTHY Tinies ?? Should they be upset ??

we have threads about people unhappy with SIZE ..HELP - MY YORKIE IS TOO BIG- Should people like ME be upset cause my Chanel is Ummmmmm.... 'voluptious' ???? No.... (and that one DOES get on my nerves sometimes but I would never say anything) When I see posts about big yorkies - what I want say is 'Just BE GLAD YOU HAVE A HEALTHY DOG " ...

I look at it this way - lets get upset at the people we should be upset at - mills, Pet Stores & unethical breeders who don't give a D**n....places like Wizard of Claws or The Jeff Danes of the world.... the people who intentionally BREED tinies.

If someone feels hurt - think of the thousands of puppies out there at the mercy of the many places I just mentioned....and try to remember - we aren't putting down the people who 'saved' a dog -

we're putting down the people that MASS BREED AND SELL THESE DOGS without caring one bit about how many die in the process...

For speaking for the dogggies!

[Grayson's mom]

Originally Posted by Rae Rae

I saw it on Puppymillrescue.com This site is soo heartbreaking. I was reading the pest shop stories and it's really terrible. If anyone is interested in reading up on puppymills, and how petstores really work (some of these stories are from pet-store employees) then it's a really interesting site.

WOW I just checked out the site, Shocked!!! I'm still learning here but wow what an eye opener!!