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Old 09-04-2006, 05:40 AM   #31
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Animal Smiley 036 Outside Yorkie's?

Sorry I can't Sugar Coat facts........a few points here; I can't see Yorkie's being raised outside for any reason, especially while they have a Litter whether it's you first or last Litter! The price doesn't mean anything, actually $1,000.00 is considered very lowprice, with the average being $1,200.00 to $1,500.00 and high for anything above $1,800.00 or more. And that seems to be across the Board regardless of where you live? That's just the price of Yorkie's I guess, just like the price of Gas you can't do anything about it? As far as the projected size, No one can actually predict what weight & size he will grow up to be, whether it gets alot of exercise w/c builds actual muscle tone w/c we all know muscle weighs more than Fat. Or whether you feed it low/high grade Dogfood? Besides "Breeders" usually tell you they will be alot smaller than they will actually turn out to be? Why b/c they feed off of the "Teacup" craze.....everyone wants a tiny one! So needless to say some people are taking advantage of that. There is nothing like the "Bond" between you and your own Yorkie that comes from being constantly around each other day and night they are my Companions. I personally would not have bought from this Breeder only b/c there are 2 kinds of Breeders, some that Breed strictly to produce a Profit, and the other wants to produce puppies that are picture perfect examples of the Breed Standard!!!!
You are either a "Dog Person" or you are not? Any one can purchase a Dog, but to make it a Pet and a member of your Family, is a different Story.
So how is that possible if they are in cages away from the People like actual Animals? It is that Human Touch that gives Yorkie's that Special knack to impress us, I know I didn't just get a Yorkie or 2 for that matter, just b/c they were adorable or for the Status Symbol effect. They are high maintenance inside & out. I can't give you any advice except to tell you that you have to feel right w/your own decision? You are probably rescuing it from a situation w/c can only be better for the puppy? Sorry my post is so long too. Good Luck and Welcome to YT.
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Coming from a farming background, I'm very comfy with dogs (even small ones) living outside as long as weather conditions permit.

(for example I live in IL, and it just wouldn't be acceptable for me to leave my boy outside at all).

If dogs live outside then they are not going to be as clean and tidy as an indoor dog.

I only wash Jake every 10 days or so, and he really looks like he needs it by then. (I brush him every day to make sure his hair is mat free).

If they looked happy and bright eyed then I wouldn't concern yourself too much.

However if you think they (the breeders) are ignored then I would take that as a warning flag.

My only concern is the size (adult size of 3.5lbs is on the small size), I know people love these tiny tiny puppies (mines only 4.5lbs at 7 months), and you have already picked out the runt of the litter (the smaller one) you are setting yourself up for a possible health problems in the future.

However saying all of that, It doesn't sound like a commercial enterprise, and as long as your comfortable with the health and cleanliness of the other dogs then I don't see any real problems.

With any new dog you should take it to the Vets within 48 hrs, make sure you have a clean syringe (without a needle) or dropper to enable you to force feed if needed. It might not be needed but your little puppy needs to be eating 4 times a day minim and its easy for them to freak out a little when they move house and hypoglycemic shock can come on real quick and a fast response is the difference between life and death. (if he becomes motionless, rush to the vets immediately, and try and force feed him a little honey or something with high sugar.

Also pick up some Suplical / Nutrical from your Vet while you are there (its a high sugar vitamin paste to help regulate blood sugar, if your accidently tiring out the puppy too much.


Okie .... Sorry if I scared you, Yorkies are wonderful dogs and will give you many years of pleasure, but they can have troubles and knowing the risks and dangers will help you immensely.

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The price of $1000 is normal (although in Tx you can get them cheaper but they might have a little rodent in the mix *smile* ie not AKC) - I paid $1200 for mine and I know folks that have paid as much as $3000 for a pet quality pooch.
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Coming from a farming background, I'm very comfy with dogs (even small ones) living outside as long as weather conditions permit.

(for example I live in IL, and it just wouldn't be acceptable for me to leave my boy outside at all).

If dogs live outside then they are not going to be as clean and tidy as an indoor dog.

I only wash Jake every 10 days or so, and he really looks like he needs it by then. (I brush him every day to make sure his hair is mat free).

If they looked happy and bright eyed then I wouldn't concern yourself too much.

However if you think they (the breeders) are ignored then I would take that as a warning flag.

My only concern is the size (adult size of 3.5lbs is on the small size), I know people love these tiny tiny puppies (mines only 4.5lbs at 7 months), and you have already picked out the runt of the litter (the smaller one) you are setting yourself up for a possible health problems in the future.

However saying all of that, It doesn't sound like a commercial enterprise, and as long as your comfortable with the health and cleanliness of the other dogs then I don't see any real problems.

With any new dog you should take it to the Vets within 48 hrs, make sure you have a clean syringe (without a needle) or dropper to enable you to force feed if needed. It might not be needed but your little puppy needs to be eating 4 times a day minim and its easy for them to freak out a little when they move house and hypoglycemic shock can come on real quick and a fast response is the difference between life and death. (if he becomes motionless, rush to the vets immediately, and try and force feed him a little honey or something with high sugar.

Also pick up some Suplical / Nutrical from your Vet while you are there (its a high sugar vitamin paste to help regulate blood sugar, if your accidently tiring out the puppy too much.


Okie .... Sorry if I scared you, Yorkies are wonderful dogs and will give you many years of pleasure, but they can have troubles and knowing the risks and dangers will help you immensely.

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The price of $1000 is normal (although in Tx you can get them cheaper but they might have a little rodent in the mix *smile* ie not AKC) - I paid $1200 for mine and I know folks that have paid as much as $3000 for a pet quality pooch.

yes in texas you can find yorkies for cheaper than 1000 dollars and they can be just as a good pet or better. the cheaper yorkies are harder to find and if i could have found my male for cheaper and knew that he would be very healthy i would have went for it. i am so sick of people thinking if its not AKC its not right and btw your statement was so uncalled for. but then again this is just my opinion. oh and may i add my male is CKC never had a hypogleicemic episode never had any health problems and weighs 3 lbs. sometimes a little under so i am very fortunate. i am not trying to pick an arguement just had to state my opinion.
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I got my baby from a pet shop ( I know it's the worst thing in the whole world and some think he isn't even a real yorkie because of where he came from) I KNOW BETTER NOW... I'm reminded every time some one asks where he came from believe me! But I will say Chewy has been hand friendly from day one. Never been sick with anything so far...(He's almost 5 months) he's fully potty trained with no accidents, and he has won all our hearts! We take him everywhere and he loves people and other dogs... (He hates to be groomed... But I hated the hair brush as a kid too! We're working in it!) I am not saying go to a pet store! Not the best idea... trust me, i worry about his health every single day now...
I have heard tons of horror stories from people who bought their dogs from breeders they thought were really good only to find out later they were not so great and thier dogs had problems anyway. Some people have the puppy shipped to them and they have never met the breeder or seen where the little baby really came from... One woman I talked to said her breeder was in Brizil!
How do you know for sure if your breeder is really a fantastic breeder with healthy pups unless you know them personally or they have an awsome reputation? This is not an attack on any breeders on Yorkie Talk! I think this site is great to get a feel for how much every one loves their dog... Sharing info about breeders is one huge help in finding a good breeder who really cares about their babies.
All that said I think unless you know of someone you can really trust as a breeder you take your chances like i did with my little guy! Not nessasarily a bad thing, but prepare your self just incase.
And just a thought... Cesar Millan...The Famous Dog Whisperer has out door Kennels for his 40 something dogs... He loves them and they love him right back!!!!! I would never keep my baby out side but he does it and his dogs are very sweet!
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Sorry I can't Sugar Coat facts........a few points here; I can't see Yorkie's being raised outside for any reason, especially while they have a Litter whether it's you first or last Litter! The price doesn't mean anything, actually $1,000.00 is considered very lowprice, with the average being $1,200.00 to $1,500.00 and high for anything above $1,800.00 or more. And that seems to be across the Board regardless of where you live? That's just the price of Yorkie's I guess, just like the price of Gas you can't do anything about it? As far as the projected size, No one can actually predict what weight & size he will grow up to be, whether it gets alot of exercise w/c builds actual muscle tone w/c we all know muscle weighs more than Fat. Or whether you feed it low/high grade Dogfood? Besides "Breeders" usually tell you they will be alot smaller than they will actually turn out to be? Why b/c they feed off of the "Teacup" craze.....everyone wants a tiny one! So needless to say some people are taking advantage of that. There is nothing like the "Bond" between you and your own Yorkie that comes from being constantly around each other day and night they are my Companions. I personally would not have bought from this Breeder only b/c there are 2 kinds of Breeders, some that Breed strictly to produce a Profit, and the other wants to produce puppies that are picture perfect examples of the Breed Standard!!!!
You are either a "Dog Person" or you are not? Any one can purchase a Dog, but to make it a Pet and a member of your Family, is a different Story.
So how is that possible if they are in cages away from the People like actual Animals? It is that Human Touch that gives Yorkie's that Special knack to impress us, I know I didn't just get a Yorkie or 2 for that matter, just b/c they were adorable or for the Status Symbol effect. They are high maintenance inside & out. I can't give you any advice except to tell you that you have to feel right w/your own decision? You are probably rescuing it from a situation w/c can only be better for the puppy? Sorry my post is so long too. Good Luck and Welcome to YT.



I have to disagree with you about the price of pups. I think the price varies depending on where you live. I paid $700 for Diesel and he is very healthy. So I wouldn't say thata $1000 is considered to be a very low price. I think that is one reason that so many charge crazy prices. A lot think that $1000 is a very low price. I have seen a lot of Yorkies for sale that are 700 -1000. So I think there are some very decent priced Yorkie out there.

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I agree, the breeder I got Kiki from (been doing it for 11 years, with NO congenital health problems in her dogs) charges $600 for males, and $800 for females. She could easily charge more, as others in this area do, but doesn't, and I respect that. Her dogs are in the 4-7 lb range though.

I don't think 1,000 is a BAD price, but I also don't think it's a GOOD price, esp. considering that this isn't an experienced breeder, proven blood lines, etc.
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Her name is Debbie and she is located in Leander Tx. As far as the shack is concerned, it really wasn't that bad, it was newly built, air-conditioned and pretty spacious. The puppies were there w/ the mommy and the father and another female were outside. She also has some rare birds as pets and a pretty big aquarium inside her home.

As per the reason why the dogs are outside, her husband wont let her have them inside because they just recently build their home.

The price is a little high, but actually the lowest i've come accross in regards to this puppies' size. She claims he'll be around 3 to 3.5 lbs which is the ideal weight i'm looking for.

She is also giving me 48 hours to take it to a vet of my choosing after the official purchase date. So the good thing is i'll have an experts opinion regarding the puppies overall health.
The mom is really cute. To be honest, dad weighs more than 3 lbs as she's claiming. If I were you, when it's time to pick out the pup, take a kitchen scale with you. I think that pup is going to be much bigger than 3 1/2 lbs. If this is mom's first litter, then how is she going to know what their weights are going to be. She's never seen a full grown pup from these parents.

Also, $1,000 is quite high for males in South Texas.
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The mom is really cute. To be honest, dad weighs more than 3 lbs as she's claiming. If I were you, when it's time to pick out the pup, take a kitchen scale with you. I think that pup is going to be much bigger than 3 1/2 lbs. If this is mom's first litter, then how is she going to know what their weights are going to be. She's never seen a full grown pup from these parents.

Also, $1,000 is quite high for males in South Texas.
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I said the same thing about the dad's size in an earlier post. If you look at the picture, he reaches halfway up the height of the gate.
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I got my baby from a pet shop ( I know it's the worst thing in the whole world and some think he isn't even a real yorkie because of where he came from) I KNOW BETTER NOW... I'm reminded every time some one asks where he came from believe me! But I will say Chewy has been hand friendly from day one. Never been sick with anything so far...(He's almost 5 months) he's fully potty trained with no accidents, and he has won all our hearts! We take him everywhere and he loves people and other dogs... (He hates to be groomed... But I hated the hair brush as a kid too! We're working in it!) I am not saying go to a pet store! Not the best idea... trust me, i worry about his health every single day now...
I have heard tons of horror stories from people who bought their dogs from breeders they thought were really good only to find out later they were not so great and thier dogs had problems anyway. Some people have the puppy shipped to them and they have never met the breeder or seen where the little baby really came from... One woman I talked to said her breeder was in Brizil!
How do you know for sure if your breeder is really a fantastic breeder with healthy pups unless you know them personally or they have an awsome reputation? This is not an attack on any breeders on Yorkie Talk! I think this site is great to get a feel for how much every one loves their dog... Sharing info about breeders is one huge help in finding a good breeder who really cares about their babies.
All that said I think unless you know of someone you can really trust as a breeder you take your chances like i did with my little guy! Not nessasarily a bad thing, but prepare your self just incase.
And just a thought... Cesar Millan...The Famous Dog Whisperer has out door Kennels for his 40 something dogs... He loves them and they love him right back!!!!! I would never keep my baby out side but he does it and his dogs are very sweet!
Just wanted to answer your statement on Ceasar Millan-Yes, his Kennels are outdoor and covered, but his facility is in Southern California - alot different from Texas and his dogs are large dogs. Alot different from yorkies, who are subject to heat & cold intolerance.
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Just thought i'd post some new pictures of the little guy. Once again, thank you for all your suggestions and concerns, i've been asking the breeder for everything i possibly can and everything shes telling me and offering me is genuine, so i guess we'll just have to wait and see what the vet says!
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Sorry I can't Sugar Coat facts........a few points here; I can't see Yorkie's being raised outside for any reason, especially while they have a Litter whether it's you first or last Litter! The price doesn't mean anything, actually $1,000.00 is considered very lowprice, with the average being $1,200.00 to $1,500.00 and high for anything above $1,800.00 or more. And that seems to be across the Board regardless of where you live? That's just the price of Yorkie's I guess, just like the price of Gas you can't do anything about it? As far as the projected size, No one can actually predict what weight & size he will grow up to be, whether it gets alot of exercise w/c builds actual muscle tone w/c we all know muscle weighs more than Fat. Or whether you feed it low/high grade Dogfood? Besides "Breeders" usually tell you they will be alot smaller than they will actually turn out to be? Why b/c they feed off of the "Teacup" craze.....everyone wants a tiny one! So needless to say some people are taking advantage of that. There is nothing like the "Bond" between you and your own Yorkie that comes from being constantly around each other day and night they are my Companions. I personally would not have bought from this Breeder only b/c there are 2 kinds of Breeders, some that Breed strictly to produce a Profit, and the other wants to produce puppies that are picture perfect examples of the Breed Standard!!!!
You are either a "Dog Person" or you are not? Any one can purchase a Dog, but to make it a Pet and a member of your Family, is a different Story.
So how is that possible if they are in cages away from the People like actual Animals? It is that Human Touch that gives Yorkie's that Special knack to impress us, I know I didn't just get a Yorkie or 2 for that matter, just b/c they were adorable or for the Status Symbol effect. They are high maintenance inside & out. I can't give you any advice except to tell you that you have to feel right w/your own decision? You are probably rescuing it from a situation w/c can only be better for the puppy? Sorry my post is so long too. Good Luck and Welcome to YT.
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I agree, the breeder I got Kiki from (been doing it for 11 years, with NO congenital health problems in her dogs) charges $600 for males, and $800 for females. She could easily charge more, as others in this area do, but doesn't, and I respect that. Her dogs are in the 4-7 lb range though.

I don't think 1,000 is a BAD price, but I also don't think it's a GOOD price, esp. considering that this isn't an experienced breeder, proven blood lines, etc.
I think it also depends on the State you live in. I paid $800.00 for my Kiki and I lived in Michigan at the time.
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Just another unasked for opinion here -but I think if you have too many Yorkies to keep them in the house with you, you have too many Yorkies. I think it has to become a business at that point.

I just don't see how the Yorkie kept outside could be getting the attention and care it needs. I know sometimes the kennels are very nice but Yorkies want so much personal attention that they won't get outside.

Also, I feel like if Yorkies are raised outside with many other dogs, they become more socialized to their "pack" and less with their humans.

As for the young puppies lack of socialization by being kept in a kennel, I don't think that it is as bad for the puppies as it is for the mother. I believe at that age, they are perfectly content with their mother and litter mates and if they go to their new home at an early age will still bond with their human family.

My concern about buying from a pet store is not necessarily the quality of the pup I would be getting but that I would probably be supporting a puppy mill.

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