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Old 07-16-2006, 03:05 PM   #1
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Confused ? about a contract clause

Just read over a breeders contract and saw this clause

"We have recently experienced the following common medical problems which is seemingly to appear once the puppy leaves the kennel- Kennel Cough and Giardia (both of these conditions can be triggered by the stress of moving to a new home, traveling, etc.). When you recieve your puppy, if you notice him coughing as though he has something stuck in his throat, or blood in a mucusy stool, please call me for more information and Instructions. This is a common occurance with toy pups and we are not liable for the costs realting to these conditions"

So what do you think? Is this a common clause in the contracts? Need advise!! Thanks
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Nope, don't think so! I think that pup was exposed to kennel cough. I never heard of them getting that from stress!
Hope you did not get a puppy from that breeder.
But if you did, I would take him to the vet to be checked out.

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Sounds to me like they are just trying to get out of guaranteeing a healthy puppy.

There are too many breeders out there with healthy puppies. Pass this one by.
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My contract stated that the health guarantee did not cover parasites/worms. It didn't specify kennel cough, but at Sissy's vet check the next day, she got her bordetalla intranasal and she promptly developed an upper respiratory infection (basically kennel cough) a few days later. THe vet did not charge me for a repeat visit as she had just had the innoculation, but I did have to pay for meds which was about $60 and it took two rounds of them for it to go away.
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I'm sorry but that just isnt right. I dont see how they can get away with that>>>>
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I'm sorry but that just isnt right. I dont see how they can get away with that>>>>
Not knowing about YorkieTalk then, and never having purchased a dog from a breeder, I was very green and never considered that it was an issue. I do know that both parasites and worms are found in most puppies and that it why they are always treated frequently before they go to new homes. With the bordetella, I guess I just assumed that it not unheard of for the vaccine (intranasal or through injection) to cause the disease, especially with the bordetella.

Of course, now that I know about YT and spend LOTS of time here daily, I know much more and would have questioned everything!!! So, now I know for when I get my next baby.
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Nope, don't think so! I think that pup was exposed to kennel cough. I never heard of them getting that from stress!
Hope you did not get a puppy from that breeder.
But if you did, I would take him to the vet to be checked out.

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Actually, I got both of my dogs from this breeder. When we got Bailey, she had the runs and when we ask back at the kennel we were told this is common after her shot (which she got 2 days before picking her up). So we gave it a few days to clear up but it didn't and took her to the vet and found she had Giardia. Hadn't been to YT at this point and was really naive, so figured maybe she picked it up here at home. When we bought Tia a few months later, this time we had her tested right away and we knew the person who bought her sister and we found both pups had it. Cause I know I'm responsible for a vet check and requested the fecal sample to be tested, I didn't ask for anything from the breeder because the medication itself was about $10.00. I was also told about a pup from this breeder who had kennel cough but the breeder maintains that the pup was perfectly healthy when it left. We had a mix up with the contract so I just got it for Tia and noticed this clause has been added. i have so many people ask me where I got my dogs from and I don't want to be endorsing a breeder who isn't "playing fairly". That why I need to know if this is common ion other peoples contracts.
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Not knowing about YorkieTalk then, and never having purchased a dog from a breeder, I was very green and never considered that it was an issue. I do know that both parasites and worms are found in most puppies and that it why they are always treated frequently before they go to new homes. With the bordetella, I guess I just assumed that it not unheard of for the vaccine (intranasal or through injection) to cause the disease, especially with the bordetella.

Of course, now that I know about YT and spend LOTS of time here daily, I know much more and would have questioned everything!!! So, now I know for when I get my next baby.
What I just said YT Rules!!!!!!!
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Cocidia can be cause by stress but I am not sure about the Giardia. I was always of the thought that it had to due with the enviorment the puppy was raised under. Dirty drinking water, and a enviroment that required more cleanliness.
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One time several breeders posted on Yorkie Friends that kennel cough was very common and no big deal in puppies..I disagreed and said it was a big deal..some pet owners have a terrible time getting it cleared up and it costs in vet bills. It can not be hard to prevent, because I never had a case in over 30 yrs...KC is a virus and of course stress can make anything worse, but does not cause it.
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Cocidia can be cause by stress but I am not sure about the Giardia. I was always of the thought that it had to due with the enviorment the puppy was raised under. Dirty drinking water, and a enviroment that required more cleanliness.

Well, Sissy didn't get Giardia till I had her for five months. She doesn't have dirty drinking water and her environment isn't spotless, but it is very clean. My vet said it is very easy to pick up from many different sources and a very common parasite. I had recently started walking her and I know they can get it from other dog's poop, something as simple as stepping where it was (even if not there now) and licking their paw. It is also found in standing water and we had just had three weeks of rain. Sissy likes to "eat" the wood chips in our flower beds (I take them away as quickly as I can), but I know they were saturated with the rain water. If there are trace amounts in an animal's system, stress can make them grow out of control. So, ultimately I don't know how she got it, but boarding her would have been the ultimate stressor to make it grow out of control.
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Well, Sissy didn't get Giardia till I had her for five months. She doesn't have dirty drinking water and her environment isn't spotless, but it is very clean. My vet said it is very easy to pick up from many different sources and a very common parasite. I had recently started walking her and I know they can get it from other dog's poop, something as simple as stepping where it was (even if not there now) and licking their paw. It is also found in standing water and we had just had three weeks of rain. Sissy likes to "eat" the wood chips in our flower beds (I take them away as quickly as I can), but I know they were saturated with the rain water. If there are trace amounts in an animal's system, stress can make them grow out of control. So, ultimately I don't know how she got it, but boarding her would have been the ultimate stressor to make it grow out of control.

I am sure that your enviroment for the baby is clean- but where you were walking the little one was "Dirty" from someone else who did not pick after their pet and contaminated the area. I have always been afraid to take my dogs to common parks and areas that other people use for their pets.

I have been very luck that no one has came home with something from a dog show. You can never be too careful
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I am sure that your enviroment for the baby is clean- but where you were walking the little one was "Dirty" from someone else who did not pick after their pet and contaminated the area. I have always been afraid to take my dogs to common parks and areas that other people use for their pets.

I have been very luck that no one has came home with something from a dog show. You can never be too careful
I agree you can never be too careful, but I was walking her on the sidewalk of our block. I have also recently learned that Giardia can be carried by geese and other bird's poop and that is everywhere we walk!!!
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It is a crazy world sometimes no matter what you do- you get a bite on the ankle. You just try and do the best that you can and be a responsible pet owner.
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Cali had Coccidia and kennel cough within a few days of getting her. The Breeder said that she had been treated with Albon 5 days prior and not to treat her again and the vet said no to treat her. But she never had any symptoms of Coccidia just her stool sample showed it. The KC took over 3 months to get rid of and she gave it to my Pom. I only had 48 hour gurantee so I didn't really pursue it with the breeder. This was all before I found YT I am so much wiser on buying a puppy now after YT.
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