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Brandy101b · 03-02-2006, 02:23 PM

I have a yorkie and a great dane and would NEVER bring my dog into any kind of store its rude to others in there even if noone is in there. Some people don't like dogs and some people are allergic. And not everyone keeps there pets as clean and cared for as us yt people LOl, so its best never to take them. If I owned a bussiness outside my home I would throw out anyone with an animal, its just not proffessional. My friends use to bring there dog to our house it was a small mixed dog around 30 lbs or so and I would get so PI**ed just because we have dogs did'nt give them the right to bring theres it would shed and get on my furniture and it licked to no end, finally after the 3rd time I told them never to bring there dog to my house again. We had a hurricane here 2 yrs ago they came to our house for saftey cuz they live in a trailer and got mad and left when I told them there dog had to be crated the entire stay.. Some people like having lots of dogs around family andf friends dogs but I find it rude and disrespectful to do that. Everyone is diffrent I guess!

shelbysmom · 03-02-2006, 02:52 PM

I take my dog everywhere but I don't flaunt her. She is in my purse and she is cleaner than a lot of stuff people carry in their purses. I also take her with me to visit people, but I ask first. If she can't come (never happens) I wouldn't go. I never set her down, she just lays in my lap sticking her head out of the purse. If she was a dog that had to be down on the floor I wouldn't take her. Yes, I realize I am still breaking the rules but I don't care. I like her company and she likes mine.

People with allergies aren't affected by Yorkies and they don't shed.

Baileys_Momma · 03-02-2006, 02:57 PM

I too take my dog everywhere with me. If a store doesn't want you to bring your animal in they they should have it posted on the door. My Bailey is always in his carrier and never exposed and I don't make a big deal about him being with us. I have been asked to leave a few places, including my sons basketball game, but such is life. I don't think it is rude to take my dog places with me and I invite everyone from YT to bring their dogs to my house. My house is always open to 2 and 4 legged friends.

BabyFidgette · 03-02-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by londonteatime

I guess I have to disagree. You can't compare a service dog with a pet. I'm disabled and, while I don't have a service dog, I do understand the need because I have to use a walker the way a blind person uses a service dog to go out. The Americans with Disabilities Act requires the admission of service dogs to establishments. These are perfectly trained dogs and, frankly, there just aren't that many people who use them so it's not like there are lots of them in stores all of the time.

If SOME dogs are permitted in stores, though, then ALL pets have to be admitted to stores since, I'm sure, every dog lover could make an argument for their pet. And while some pet owners are responsible, many are not!

As big a pet lover as I am, I would not want to go to a grocery store where there were dozens of pets. I had a chihuahua in a carrier lunge at me in a public place because I was close to its owner. That thing was an inch from biting me. I cannot imagine being in the produce aisle selecting vegetables with lots of people who are carrying dogs in close quarters. They could lunge and snap. Plus, there are many small children in stores who could approach the dog and be bitten. Many people have animal allergies, too. There are just too many reasons why dogs in stores can be aproblem.

I enjoy taking my dogs to Petco and that's "our time." We get ready, we go and enjoy, and then I bring them back. I schedule Petco outings for times when I have no other errands to run.

I agree that the other guy with the big dog behaved like an idiot; that's a really good indication, though, of what would happen if some dogs were allowed in stores.

Julie

I knew there would be someone who misinterpreted my response. I said bringing her into Shoprite was wrong...I admitted that. I also said that I am not knocking the NEED for a service dog. What was NOT appropriate is his response to the whole, 'Your dog is dirty, but service dogs arent.' A dog, is a dog. If my dog was nasty to others, I wouldn't bring her places to begin with. But to say that a 'normal' dog would contaminate food, and in the next breath say that service dogs wouldn't is not an acceptable response. As I stated before: Just say, "Mam, dogs are not allowed in here." Period, blank, simple. Don't quickly try to cover up your decision. I apologize in advance if I feel like I am getting snippy, but I hate when people try to make me seem wrong, when I know I'm right. Wrong for bringing my dog to Shoprite, not wrong for thinking the manager was incompetent

SnowWa · 03-02-2006, 03:48 PM

YouGetTheSmiles --- I'm sorry - your Yorkie is a dog - not a baby.

Dogs go to the vet - babies don't...
Dogs get puppy shots and Parvo shots .... babies don't...
Dogs eat dog food - babies don't....
Dogs go for walks on leases .... babies don't....
Dogs run around the house on four legs - babies don't...

etc. etc. etc. etc.....so much more!!!!

I know what you mean when you say your pup is your little "baby." But, try and make an appointment for him with a pediatrician (and visit the pediatrician's office with him)....you'll learn quickly that he's not a baby...he's a "puppy."

My little guys are like children to me too and are spoiled rotten - I love mine as much as you love yours, but I certainly don't take them where dogs or pets aren't allowed.

I relish in enjoying my dogs because they are dogs... don't we all know that dogs have special wonderful traits and qualities that people don't have. They are a special joy for all of us. And, they are especially loveable. That's why we love them so much. And, I especially love mine for exactly what he is.....a little puppy dog. He's precious!

Carol Jean

londonteatime · 03-02-2006, 03:59 PM

Well, as the above-mentioned "misinterpreter," I will elaborate. If the health department inspector saw your dog or any other pet in the grocery store, they could probably close the place down. At the very least, the store woud have to be cleaned and inspected further. The laws might require that fresh food be trashed.

Service dogs have to meet strict training and health guidelines and the agency ensures they are up-to-date on their shots. So when a service dog -- which is allowed by federal law to enter establishments -- comes into a store, it is known they are current on vaccines and healthy.

Maybe the wording the manager used wasn't correct but it is true that he would be in serious trouble for having a pet in his store -- and all it would take is for one shopper to call the health department and say there was a pet in the grocery store. When there's a report, there has to be an investigation.

londonteatime · 03-02-2006, 04:04 PM

Amen, Carol Jean!!! I absolutely adore mine, too, BECAUSE they're dogs, not despite the fact that they're dogs! And I really think they need to be allowed to enjoy being dogs and not be expected to act like something else.

Julie

reneernc · 03-02-2006, 04:05 PM

The health dept doesn't allow animals in any type of store that sells food, in my area. There is an exemption for seeing eye dogs.

sshaw · 03-02-2006, 04:33 PM

What a rude nut case, just the kind you would accidently like to trip on the way out. I pitty his poor pet!

SnowWa · 03-02-2006, 05:26 PM

LOndonTeaTime - This is how the Health Department works.

If they saw you in a store with a dog - they would first ask you to leave. Then they would speak with the store manager and remind him that dogs are not allowed in his store and that an employee should have ask you to leave immediately- they would ask why this hadn't happened and remind the manager of the fine he could be given - and they'd make note of this finding on their report regarding this particular store. (This is what would happen if the Health Inspector was doing his job.)

The Health Department often gives warnings - but they do not give warnings the second or third time around. They impose fines! My brother-in-law owns a restaurant, and wouldn't you know it ---a Health Inspector is one of his regular customers. We all know this man well and have discussed his job with him many times.

I agree - that many of you have gone in and out of places many times where your dog isn't allowed - without anyone saying anything to you. What can I say!

Carol Jean

Brandy101b · 03-02-2006, 07:03 PM

For those who say yorkies don't shed and don't affect poeple with allergies you are 100% WRONG! My Mil is allergic to my yorkie and ALL dogs, my sil is a vet and said that yorkies are easier on people with allergies because they shed LESS not shed not at all. And because of the quality of hair they have, but yorkies still carry dander and that is what people are allergic too.

I love my yorkie as much as the next one and I consider her family, but I consider her first a dog, a wonderful dog but a dog. And I don't understand putting your dog in a carrier or purse and taking her everywhere I go. I understand if you love that sorta thing but I am a firm beliver that for everyone that likes it there will be one that does'nt. I feel it is disrespectful and rude to just think people should deal with your dog being in the store with them. I would not shop anywhere that allowed pets inside, not even a place like homedepot. Dogs are unpredictable no matter how small or cute and if a yorkie is allowed in then so should a huge great dane and that would cause saftey issues. Like many of the people on here that have had there yorkie bite a child who reaches in to touch them, kids are kids and if you turn your back they may try to pet the puppy and to be truthful if a dog in a store every bit my daughter they would have to fight me off the dog! People and there feeling should come before a dogs, humans are humans and dogs are dogs!

BabyFidgette · 03-02-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by londonteatime

Well, as the above-mentioned "misinterpreter," I will elaborate. If the health department inspector saw your dog or any other pet in the grocery store, they could probably close the place down. At the very least, the store woud have to be cleaned and inspected further. The laws might require that fresh food be trashed.

Service dogs have to meet strict training and health guidelines and the agency ensures they are up-to-date on their shots. So when a service dog -- which is allowed by federal law to enter establishments -- comes into a store, it is known they are current on vaccines and healthy.

Maybe the wording the manager used wasn't correct but it is true that he would be in serious trouble for having a pet in his store -- and all it would take is for one shopper to call the health department and say there was a pet in the grocery store. When there's a report, there has to be an investigation.

Being the thickheaded woman that I am, I am going to acknowledge your response, but am not going to respond. I refuse to be like others and have a battle on YT. You have your opinions, I have mine. I still don't understand how a pet who has a disease or what have you can infect food, but whatever. I responded to you before b/c I didn't like how it seemed that you made me out to be a person that may not agree with seeing eye dogs, and that's not the case. So, peace out.

Tashasmom · 03-02-2006, 08:37 PM

I have Kids and I have yorkies...and i'm sorry but my kids are my babies and my yorkies are my pets. BIG DIFFERENCE. And I think my kids are cleaner in the fact that they don't lick their own bottom end..they've never stuck their nose in poo nor have they ever stuck their nose in anothers heiny..
That said...I don't think pets should be allowed in the stores either..reason being is some people are terrified of dogs..my mom is very much afraid of dogs that she doesn't know. I would hate for her to have to be scared everytime she went out for fear of running into a dog in the store.
But on the other end it would be nice for them to open up more places for people that enjoy having their pets with them..I would enjoy something like that myself..

elegntorchid · 03-02-2006, 09:03 PM

Everyone could do battle all day about "should my dog be allowed or not". I personallly do take my yorkie with me when ever possible. We have been to walmart, target, home depot, lowes, and countless other places. If there is no sign on the door..... I to understand that service dogs are needed but, my yorkie stays in her bag and bothers no one, a service dog walks all over the floor panting and slobbering and shedding. I have never seen hair come off of my yorkie unless I am combing her and everything I have read and been told (vet included) says that yorkies do not have pet dander.
But further more I have seen some pretty nasty people in these same stores that are contaminating food where my yorkie does not. These people do not bathe, not wearing shoes or shirts(this make want to not shop), not to mention the ones who go to the bathroom and don't wash. And lets not forget the ones who think my family would like to have their cigarette with our meal or our outing. I would much prefer to sit down at the table with my yorkie who licks her rear from time to time than these nasty people, and I would much rather shop with her.
In areas where "money" rules no shop or store owner would dare tell a customer to take their little dog out. Neither does Pier 1. Every one has their own thoughts.

SnowWa · 03-02-2006, 09:10 PM

Again - I totally agree with a lot of you.

Dogs are wonderful loving pets - but they are not people.

There are places that are very appropriate to take our dogs to - and let's enjoy these places with our little pets.

It is rude, inconsiderate, and totally not responsible to take our little guys into places where they are not allowed. It just isn't mature or responsible. This is the sort of behavior that I would expect from teenagers or younger children --- and many of these are very socially responsible and would never deliberately break a law or ignore a regulation. (I especially can't understand those of us who think it is cute and funny to sneak our dogs into places they aren't allowed). Part of becoming an adult is learning to become socially responsible and obeying existing laws and regulations. Though we may question some regulations, they are generally made for our own health and safety, and we should abide by them.

Why have laws and regulations if people feel they have the right to follow only those that they are comfortable with or agree with. What a world this might become!!!!

My Yorkie (and other dog) aren't my babies. They are my wonderful little pets. I love them very much and don't take them anywhere they shouldn't be or aren't allowed. There are many many places we can go - and these are the places where we spend our time.

Carol Jean

03-02-2006, 02:57 PM	#18
Baileys_Momma And Morgan Too! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 1,180	I too take my dog everywhere with me. If a store doesn't want you to bring your animal in they they should have it posted on the door. My Bailey is always in his carrier and never exposed and I don't make a big deal about him being with us. I have been asked to leave a few places, including my sons basketball game, but such is life. I don't think it is rude to take my dog places with me and I invite everyone from YT to bring their dogs to my house. My house is always open to 2 and 4 legged friends. __________________ Courtney Bailey Morgan KICKING CANCER'S BUTT, ONE CHEMO TREATMENT AT A TIME!!! Member of the SSLS (Secret Sisterhood Ladybug Society)

03-02-2006, 03:48 PM	#20
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	YouGetTheSmiles --- I'm sorry - your Yorkie is a dog - not a baby. Dogs go to the vet - babies don't... Dogs get puppy shots and Parvo shots .... babies don't... Dogs eat dog food - babies don't.... Dogs go for walks on leases .... babies don't.... Dogs run around the house on four legs - babies don't... etc. etc. etc. etc.....so much more!!!! I know what you mean when you say your pup is your little "baby." But, try and make an appointment for him with a pediatrician (and visit the pediatrician's office with him)....you'll learn quickly that he's not a baby...he's a "puppy." My little guys are like children to me too and are spoiled rotten - I love mine as much as you love yours, but I certainly don't take them where dogs or pets aren't allowed. I relish in enjoying my dogs because they are dogs... don't we all know that dogs have special wonderful traits and qualities that people don't have. They are a special joy for all of us. And, they are especially loveable. That's why we love them so much. And, I especially love mine for exactly what he is.....a little puppy dog. He's precious! Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

03-02-2006, 05:26 PM	#25
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	LOndonTeaTime - This is how the Health Department works. If they saw you in a store with a dog - they would first ask you to leave. Then they would speak with the store manager and remind him that dogs are not allowed in his store and that an employee should have ask you to leave immediately- they would ask why this hadn't happened and remind the manager of the fine he could be given - and they'd make note of this finding on their report regarding this particular store. (This is what would happen if the Health Inspector was doing his job.) The Health Department often gives warnings - but they do not give warnings the second or third time around. They impose fines! My brother-in-law owns a restaurant, and wouldn't you know it ---a Health Inspector is one of his regular customers. We all know this man well and have discussed his job with him many times. I agree - that many of you have gone in and out of places many times where your dog isn't allowed - without anyone saying anything to you. What can I say! Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

03-02-2006, 08:37 PM	#28
Tashasmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 950	hello I have Kids and I have yorkies...and i'm sorry but my kids are my babies and my yorkies are my pets. BIG DIFFERENCE. And I think my kids are cleaner in the fact that they don't lick their own bottom end..they've never stuck their nose in poo nor have they ever stuck their nose in anothers heiny.. That said...I don't think pets should be allowed in the stores either..reason being is some people are terrified of dogs..my mom is very much afraid of dogs that she doesn't know. I would hate for her to have to be scared everytime she went out for fear of running into a dog in the store. But on the other end it would be nice for them to open up more places for people that enjoy having their pets with them..I would enjoy something like that myself..

03-02-2006, 09:10 PM	#30
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	Again - I totally agree with a lot of you. Dogs are wonderful loving pets - but they are not people. There are places that are very appropriate to take our dogs to - and let's enjoy these places with our little pets. It is rude, inconsiderate, and totally not responsible to take our little guys into places where they are not allowed. It just isn't mature or responsible. This is the sort of behavior that I would expect from teenagers or younger children --- and many of these are very socially responsible and would never deliberately break a law or ignore a regulation. (I especially can't understand those of us who think it is cute and funny to sneak our dogs into places they aren't allowed). Part of becoming an adult is learning to become socially responsible and obeying existing laws and regulations. Though we may question some regulations, they are generally made for our own health and safety, and we should abide by them. Why have laws and regulations if people feel they have the right to follow only those that they are comfortable with or agree with. What a world this might become!!!! My Yorkie (and other dog) aren't my babies. They are my wonderful little pets. I love them very much and don't take them anywhere they shouldn't be or aren't allowed. There are many many places we can go - and these are the places where we spend our time. Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.

03-02-2006, 02:23 PM	#16
Brandy101b Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 108	I have a yorkie and a great dane and would NEVER bring my dog into any kind of store its rude to others in there even if noone is in there. Some people don't like dogs and some people are allergic. And not everyone keeps there pets as clean and cared for as us yt people LOl, so its best never to take them. If I owned a bussiness outside my home I would throw out anyone with an animal, its just not proffessional. My friends use to bring there dog to our house it was a small mixed dog around 30 lbs or so and I would get so PI**ed just because we have dogs did'nt give them the right to bring theres it would shed and get on my furniture and it licked to no end, finally after the 3rd time I told them never to bring there dog to my house again. We had a hurricane here 2 yrs ago they came to our house for saftey cuz they live in a trailer and got mad and left when I told them there dog had to be crated the entire stay.. Some people like having lots of dogs around family andf friends dogs but I find it rude and disrespectful to do that. Everyone is diffrent I guess!

03-02-2006, 02:52 PM	#17
shelbysmom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,394	I take my dog everywhere but I don't flaunt her. She is in my purse and she is cleaner than a lot of stuff people carry in their purses. I also take her with me to visit people, but I ask first. If she can't come (never happens) I wouldn't go. I never set her down, she just lays in my lap sticking her head out of the purse. If she was a dog that had to be down on the floor I wouldn't take her. Yes, I realize I am still breaking the rules but I don't care. I like her company and she likes mine. People with allergies aren't affected by Yorkies and they don't shed.

03-02-2006, 03:59 PM	#21
londonteatime Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 170	Well, as the above-mentioned "misinterpreter," I will elaborate. If the health department inspector saw your dog or any other pet in the grocery store, they could probably close the place down. At the very least, the store woud have to be cleaned and inspected further. The laws might require that fresh food be trashed. Service dogs have to meet strict training and health guidelines and the agency ensures they are up-to-date on their shots. So when a service dog -- which is allowed by federal law to enter establishments -- comes into a store, it is known they are current on vaccines and healthy. Maybe the wording the manager used wasn't correct but it is true that he would be in serious trouble for having a pet in his store -- and all it would take is for one shopper to call the health department and say there was a pet in the grocery store. When there's a report, there has to be an investigation.

03-02-2006, 04:04 PM	#22
londonteatime Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 170	Amen, Carol Jean!!! I absolutely adore mine, too, BECAUSE they're dogs, not despite the fact that they're dogs! And I really think they need to be allowed to enjoy being dogs and not be expected to act like something else. Julie

03-02-2006, 04:05 PM	#23
reneernc Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 807	The health dept doesn't allow animals in any type of store that sells food, in my area. There is an exemption for seeing eye dogs.

03-02-2006, 04:33 PM	#24
sshaw YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: vestal Posts: 1,289	What a rude nut case, just the kind you would accidently like to trip on the way out. I pitty his poor pet!

03-02-2006, 07:03 PM	#26
Brandy101b Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 108	For those who say yorkies don't shed and don't affect poeple with allergies you are 100% WRONG! My Mil is allergic to my yorkie and ALL dogs, my sil is a vet and said that yorkies are easier on people with allergies because they shed LESS not shed not at all. And because of the quality of hair they have, but yorkies still carry dander and that is what people are allergic too. I love my yorkie as much as the next one and I consider her family, but I consider her first a dog, a wonderful dog but a dog. And I don't understand putting your dog in a carrier or purse and taking her everywhere I go. I understand if you love that sorta thing but I am a firm beliver that for everyone that likes it there will be one that does'nt. I feel it is disrespectful and rude to just think people should deal with your dog being in the store with them. I would not shop anywhere that allowed pets inside, not even a place like homedepot. Dogs are unpredictable no matter how small or cute and if a yorkie is allowed in then so should a huge great dane and that would cause saftey issues. Like many of the people on here that have had there yorkie bite a child who reaches in to touch them, kids are kids and if you turn your back they may try to pet the puppy and to be truthful if a dog in a store every bit my daughter they would have to fight me off the dog! People and there feeling should come before a dogs, humans are humans and dogs are dogs!

03-02-2006, 09:03 PM	#29
elegntorchid YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: florida Posts: 348	Everyone could do battle all day about "should my dog be allowed or not". I personallly do take my yorkie with me when ever possible. We have been to walmart, target, home depot, lowes, and countless other places. If there is no sign on the door..... I to understand that service dogs are needed but, my yorkie stays in her bag and bothers no one, a service dog walks all over the floor panting and slobbering and shedding. I have never seen hair come off of my yorkie unless I am combing her and everything I have read and been told (vet included) says that yorkies do not have pet dander. But further more I have seen some pretty nasty people in these same stores that are contaminating food where my yorkie does not. These people do not bathe, not wearing shoes or shirts(this make want to not shop), not to mention the ones who go to the bathroom and don't wash. And lets not forget the ones who think my family would like to have their cigarette with our meal or our outing. I would much prefer to sit down at the table with my yorkie who licks her rear from time to time than these nasty people, and I would much rather shop with her. In areas where "money" rules no shop or store owner would dare tell a customer to take their little dog out. Neither does Pier 1. Every one has their own thoughts.