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Old 06-19-2018, 07:31 AM   #31
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My only concern is that your breeder has experience putting microchips in dogs. If they have a lot of experience, that's fine. Otherwise, you could have it done at the vet. There are a few quirky things about chip placement, and procedures they can do that will help prevent the chip from migrating. I could find all of the technical specifications for the HomeAgain chips--they have a special coating that helps prevent chip migration. I couldn't find any information about the AKC chips.
Thank you for your concern.

Yes, she is experienced, but normally uses a different chip. I could have had the chip of my preference put in by my vet, but I'd rather have it done before she is delivered.

From AKC ReUnite Indigo Microchips, in part
Manufactured by Trovan in Europe, AKC Reunite Indigo 134.2 kHz/ISO/International microchips are seamless, 100% bioglass encapsulated transponders with no plastic parts. This seamless design helps ensure the lifetime integrity of the microchip, and its parylene coating prevents migration. Our all-in-one syringe delivery device also features medical-grade needles that are arguably the sharpest in the industry.
Does that sound comparable?
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I found the instructions for implanting the AKC microchips: https://www.akcreunite.org/wp-conten...structions.pdf .

HomeAgain's instructions are here: http://public.homeagain.com/pdf/micr...whitepaper.pdf

There are some slight differences in technique. The AKC instructions don't give a final pinch to make sure that the chip stays in place. The AKC info also doesn't mention whether their chips contain anti-migration coatings. (HomeAgain says that their chips have anti-migration coating.) EDIT: The AKC chips also have anti-migration coating.

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Scan the animal to find out if it already has a microchip. If it does, look up the microchip number at Microchip Search | AAHA Universal Pet Microchip Lookup or call AKC Reunite at 800-252-7894.

Scan the syringe in the package.

Confirm the ID number of the microchip matches the barcode label.

Locate the injection site (between the shoulder blades) and tent the skin. At the base of the tented skin, completely insert the needle subcutaneously at a slight angle and then depress the blue plunger using a steady motion. Withdraw the needle and then let the skin go.

Check the implantation site to make sure the microchip transponder has been fully inserted and then scan the implantation site to ensure the microchip is working correctly. Keep pet calm for 24 hours after microchip implantation.

VERY IMPORTANT! Make sure the microchip is enrolled to the pet owner. Visit Lost Pet Recovery Service | Pet Microchips | AKC Reunite or mail the completed paper form to AKC Reunite.
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• Pet microchips are implanted by a veterinarian through a quick injection, like a routine vaccination.

• The site of implantation varies by animal.
- In the U.S, dogs and cats receive the injection along the dorsal midline, just between the shoulder blades.
- Horses are injected along the left side of the neck, about an inch below the mane and midway between the poll and the withers.
- Birds, which lack the bulk of most animals, receive the implant in their breast muscles.

• The animal-care professional should scan for existing microchips prior to implanting a new one—this step takes 10 to 30 seconds.

• No anesthetic is required. The pet’s reaction will be consistent with that of a vaccination injection. The implant procedure is essentially painless.

• Your pet’s skin is desensitized by a simple pinch that pulls the skin upwards until taut. The animal-care professional inserts the needle.

• A final pinch ensures the microchip stays in place as the needle is withdrawn.

• Your veterinarian or animal shelter personnel can help you complete the microchip registration forms immediately following implantation.

• You and your pet go home and relax together. Avoid rigorous exercise or activity with your pet for 24 hours, in order to give the anti-migration coating on the microchip a chance to bond to your pets skin, so the microchip remains where it was implanted.
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Thank you for your concern.

Yes, she is experienced, but normally uses a different chip. I could have had the chip of my preference put in by my vet, but I'd rather have it done before she is delivered.

From AKC ReUnite Indigo Microchips, in part
Manufactured by Trovan in Europe, AKC Reunite Indigo 134.2 kHz/ISO/International microchips are seamless, 100% bioglass encapsulated transponders with no plastic parts. This seamless design helps ensure the lifetime integrity of the microchip, and its parylene coating prevents migration. Our all-in-one syringe delivery device also features medical-grade needles that are arguably the sharpest in the industry.
Does that sound comparable?
Yes, it sounds comparable. And it DOES have the antimigration coating. You should be good to go!
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Yes, it sounds comparable. And it DOES have the antimigration coating. You should be good to go!
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I ordered an AKC chip (only) to be delivered to the breeder for installation. After talking this over with AKC, I'll opted to wait and pay for the lifetime AKC Reunite registration at the time I finalized the AKC registration.
I think I would have kept the chip and let the vet put it in when they were under anesthesia for spaying or neutering.
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I think I would have kept the chip and let the vet put it in when they were under anesthesia for spaying or neutering.
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P.S. Anesthesia is just overkill for the chip process.
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Thank you.

P.S. Anesthesia is just overkill for the chip process.
It's definitely overkill for just putting in a microchip. I believe that Bella's chip was put in at the time she was spayed and under anesthesia, but supposedly putting in a microchip is just like giving a regular injection. No anesthesia needed. Perhaps a little benadryl ahead of time for just in case.
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Thank you.

P.S. Anesthesia is just overkill for the chip process.
I would never do anesthesia for just a micro chip but it is a bigger needle and can hurt that is why my vet recommends doing it when they are getting fixed and I also agree with that. You also don’t have to worry about a wiggly puppy messing up placement. Both of my boys are criers when they get their shots so it is more comfortable and better for them to have it done when they were under anesthesia.
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I would never do anesthesia for just a micro chip but it is a bigger needle and can hurt that is why my vet recommends doing it when they are getting fixed and I also agree with that. You also don’t have to worry about a wiggly puppy messing up placement. Both of my boys are criers when they get their shots so it is more comfortable and better for them to have it done when they were under anesthesia.
I'm glad that has worked well for you.
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It's definitely overkill for just putting in a microchip. I believe that Bella's chip was put in at the time she was spayed and under anesthesia, but supposedly putting in a microchip is just like giving a regular injection. No anesthesia needed. Perhaps a little benadryl ahead of time for just in case.
The needle is bigger. Joey cried when he got every puppy shot so it was much better for him to just get it when he was under for his neuter. Ollie appears to be pretty much the same so he won’t get his until he is fixed also. My vet generally recommends that.
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I'm glad that has worked well for you.
It worked well for my babies more then for me.
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The needle is bigger. Joey cried when he got every puppy shot so it was much better for him to just get it when he was under for his neuter. Ollie appears to be pretty much the same so he won’t get his until he is fixed also. My vet generally recommends that.
Yes, it is indeed a bigger needle. Bella probably could have handled it. She's absolutely a perfect lady for the people in the vet's office, and a screaming banshee at home. When we took Bella to the vet yesterday to have her eye looked at, and she held perfectly still while they stained her eye and put in eye ointment, the vet said that Bella deserved the "good dog of the day" award. I told them that Bella is nothing like that at home. Indeed, when it came time for us to put the ointment in her eye, she was squirming and keeping her eyes closed the whole time. It took a few attempts to get the ointment in her eyes.

But back to the subject at hand, I agree that it's best to have the chip inserted when the dog is under anesthesia for another procedure. It's not necessary to be under anesthesia for the chip, and dogs are very forgiving (according to our vet), but since we had the option, that's what we did. It probably worked out better for her and spared her some pain. If I did have the chip inserted without anesthesia, I would definitely want to be present to see how much pain is actually involved.
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I'm of the belief that it's best for my family's circumstance to have the dog chipped.

PERIOD.

(P.S. For what it is worth, I have been present to see a dog chipped.)

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I'm of the belief that it's best for my family's circumstance to have the dog chipped.

PERIOD.

(P.S. For what it is worth, I have been present to see a dog chipped.)
I’m not sure anyone is agruing that dogs shouldn’t be chipped. We were just talking about how it might be more comfortable for them to be chipped when under anesthesia for another reason like neutering or spaying. It is a bigger needle so I’m sure it is uncomfortable but they dock tails without anesthesia which I’m sure hurts a whole heck of I lot more. I too have to been around when a pup has gotten microchipped but they were under anesthesia getting their neuter. My vet generally recommends getting the chip during the surgery and that’s all that was being shared. I’m not sure what upset you. Just people sharing their opinions and experiences that’s what this place is for.
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I'm of the belief that it's best for my family's circumstance to have the dog chipped.

PERIOD.

(P.S. For what it is worth, I have been present to see a dog chipped.)
I think that it's to the benefit of every dog to get chipped. I'm pointing out to others who may be reading this thread that it's convenient to get it done during spaying, a dental, or whenever a dog is under anesthesia. It's not essential, but it's convenient. And it's less stressful to the dog. You can do whatever you want to with your dog. I wasn't telling you not to.
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