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Old 01-11-2006, 08:08 AM   #61
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Im sorry, But NO not all pit bulls are mean what part of all this do you not understand its all in how their raised, People dont know what happens behind closed doors. Im not saying any of these families have mistreated these dogs or anything, but the fact of the matter is, People need to educate themselves on the breed or animal they are critizing because Its not fair and its prejudice, and just makes people look dumb on their part because they DON'T know the facts. If people actually sat down and read about the WHOLE history of this bread they and everyone else on this planet would understand. Im not saying all pit bulls are good either. there are bad ones out their just like ANY OTHER BREED!!!Because of Poor breeding, Bloodlines, Training, and their home lives!!!!As per other breeds!!people need to realize that, they get so caught up in what the media thinks of the matter and brain washing people into thinking certain things and forget that they can have their OWN opinion. Again this is JMO and im not critizing anyone. I work with dogs all day..and get to see all the different breeds out their, i get a better look out on things than most people. Because the truth of the matter is, some people Don't want to voice their opinion because their afraid of what might be said. Im sorry but this topic upsets me. No one cares to know the facts about these so called "dangerous, and horrible" dogs. Every single breed out their has those bad ones Just like Children!~ its all in how their raised!

thank you for letting me vent and voice my opinion. I mean dis-respect to anyone. Just please sit down and get all the facts straight.
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I do have my own opinion- I don't like aggressive dogs. I'm not saying I don't like pit bulls because I'm afraid of what others will say about me- beleive me, I welcome a debate on any topic about which I feel pationately. Being a PR major in college, I took quite a few mass comm books and know the effect the media has, but the media buzz dies down if it is just that. When there is reported case after reported case, the stories will continue to be printed.

No matter what this breed was originally intended for or how loving some examples of the breed are, these dogs have fallen into the wrong hands and a very large portion of them is now dangerous. I think that the problem has a lot to do with the owners, but these bad owners have turned the breed into a dangerous breed. Believe me, I feel sorry for the animals that have to be put down or get a bad rap because of aggression because I know it's not their fault, but you can't escape the fact that they are aggressive. Like you said, it's because of poor bloodlines and breeding. One aggressive bloodline can have hundreds of off-spring in a year if they're put into the wrong hands. The same people that made their dogs aggressive and bred these aggressive lines couldn't care less what happens to the puppies of their dogs- for them, money talks. Do you think they're selling them with limited registration or even to the most responsible people? As an animal lover, I hate to hear the stories about pit bulls sitting in shelters and eventually being euthenized because most people won't adopt them. However, if there are as many stories out there as there are and statistics showing that this breed, along with another, is responsible for a large majority of the deaths through bites, I know I am not willing to take the chance and risk lives. Will something happen? No, not necessarily, but I'm not the risk-taking type to give it a go and see what happens. Call me crazy or ignorant or whatever, but I like the motto "better safe than sorry."
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No matter what this breed was originally intended for or how loving some examples of the breed are, these dogs have fallen into the wrong hands and a very large portion of them is now dangerous. I think that the problem has a lot to do with the owners, but these bad owners have turned the breed into a dangerous breed. Believe me, I feel sorry for the animals that have to be put down or get a bad rap because of aggression because I know it's not their fault, but you can't escape the fact that they are aggressive. Like you said, it's because of poor bloodlines and breeding. One aggressive bloodline can have hundreds of off-spring in a year if they're put into the wrong hands. The same people that made their dogs aggressive and bred these aggressive lines couldn't care less what happens to the puppies of their dogs- for them, money talks. Do you think they're selling them with limited registration or even to the most responsible people? As an animal lover, I hate to hear the stories about pit bulls sitting in shelters and eventually being euthenized because most people won't adopt them. However, if there are as many stories out there as there are and statistics showing that this breed, along with another, is responsible for a large majority of the deaths through bites, I know I am not willing to take the chance and risk lives. Will something happen? No, not necessarily, but I'm not the risk-taking type to give it a go and see what happens. Call me crazy or ignorant or whatever, but I like the motto "better safe than sorry."
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The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictability is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000 , Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)
Why would you leave a baby on a bed with a dog by itself anyways? I would never leave my baby alone with a any dog, because sometimes dogs behave differently around babies. For example, my mom's cocker did not like my nephew crying when he was an infant, would growl everytime he did. We did not think she would hurt him, but still we never took any chances. This only happened when he cried, any other time she would just lay under his bed and lick him to death. I guess she liked kissing babies like we do.
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The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictability is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000 , Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)
I think this is a bad example. Even a CAT can kill a baby. We're talking about agressive dogs to adults and children. Usually when a dog bites it is a warning to get away, because it's cornered, or beause it's eating. Pit's ATTACK to KILL and they keep coming back. If we are talking about just BITING then a pit isn't at the top of the list (which I must add people don't report ALL bites). I think everyone here has aleast been nipped by a dog. If we are talking about having the ability to KILL an adult or a human, pits are at the top of the list with rotts. I am always amazed how this conversation casually goes from KILLING to just biting when there's SUCH a big difference.
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Exactly I was just making the statement all animals are capable of killing not just pits and rotts. I my self have been bit by 3 different animals(i'm a sucker) The first one was a stray cat who i was trying to help when i was 10 it bit my eye. Then a basset hound attacked me while i was trying to pick up garbage that it had been eating, and the most recent was another stray cat.
In my life i would never guess a basset hound to be aggressive. It was a friends dog i was watching he tipped over the garbage can so i went to picked it up and wam he grabbed my arm and would not let go. I heard no growling or no warning from him it was all of a sudden.
All animals have killing capabilities they were once all predators and had to hunt for their food until man made them domestic.
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Exactly I was just making the statement all animals are capable of killing not just pits and rotts. I my self have been bit by 3 different animals(i'm a sucker) The first one was a stray cat who i was trying to help when i was 10 it bit my eye. Then a basset hound attacked me while i was trying to pick up garbage that it had been eating, and the most recent was another stray cat.
In my life i would never guess a basset hound to be aggressive. It was a friends dog i was watching he tipped over the garbage can so i went to picked it up and wam he grabbed my arm and would not let go. I heard no growling or no warning from him it was all of a sudden.
All animals have killing capabilities they were once all predators and had to hunt for their food until man made them domestic.
Sorry, but I respectfully don't think that basset or even the cat had the capability to kill you. But a pit can kill a grown man. Those animals are all examples of what I'm saying, an animal will bite for many reasons, because it's scared etc, and NEVER bother a dog when it's eating. It depends on the animal. Yorkies were created to kill rodents, not people. A pit has the capability and the means to kill a person. To me it's like letting people have a pet tiger.
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Sorry, but I respectfully don't think that basset or even the cat had the capability to kill you. But a pit can kill a grown man. Those animals are all examples of what I'm saying, an animal will bite for many reasons, because it's scared etc, and NEVER bother a dog when it's eating. It depends on the animal. Yorkies were created to kill rodents, not people. A pit has the capability and the means to kill a person. To me it's like letting people have a pet tiger.
I don't know if my yorkie will kill a rodent. We had a lizard in the house the other day and both my cat and yorkie just looked at it, and looked at me like "Mom, are you going to get it?".
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I don't know if my yorkie will kill a rodent. We had a lizard in the house the other day and both my cat and yorkie just looked at it, and looked at me like "Mom, are you going to get it?".
LOL. Well my husband is always buying mice to feed to his lizards. I think the cat and my yorkie would at least play with it to death!
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This is another one: (This is Wichita, Kansas)

Jan. 7-Wichita Police are forced to shoot a pitbull after it attacks a child.

It happened in the 1100 block of South Greenwood Saturday afternoon.

11 year old Jacob Smith was attacked by the dog.

"I was so scared I was going to get shot or that the dog was going to kill me."

After the dog bit him several times on the back, a friend called police and tried to distract the dog from attacking again.

Smith says, "I started running and my friend came out and started to come this way and the dog and then cop says, " oh crap, I better go help that guy."

The dog lunged at the police officer and that's when he shot it.

This is second pitbull attack this week in which officers have had to use deadly force.


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That is very sad...also the poor little boy

I was talking to a lady who has a pittbull,,,,,she swears they are the most gently dogs

Anyway she says once the dogs jaw locks onto something,,,,,they cannot release it,,,their jaw locks,,,,& the dog can get a simple operation to take out the peice that locks the jaw,,,,,then they are ok,,,,,they can then release
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well i am upset enough about all this but understand every one has their own thoughts but they way we loveour yorkies people love their pits here is a group i am familiar with that take great pride in their dogs and the breed itself. Ind\fact one puppy Zion started to show signs of aggression and he was immediately put down never harmed anyone but wasnt going to give him the chance. http://www.aapba.com/
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That is very sad...also the poor little boy

I was talking to a lady who has a pittbull,,,,,she swears they are the most gently dogs

Anyway she says once the dogs jaw locks onto something,,,,,they cannot release it,,,their jaw locks,,,,& the dog can get a simple operation to take out the peice that locks the jaw,,,,,then they are ok,,,,,they can then release

No animal nor creature on this earth has the ability to LOCK their Jaws, ANY Jaw structure is not capable of this, and it is a KNOWN FACT! and has been proven by many MANY tests!
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I own a pit as well as a mastiff and a yorkie. My yorkie is more vicious than my pit.
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