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Old 01-10-2006, 07:43 PM   #46
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People need to educate themselves on the breed or animal they are critizing because Its not fair and its prejudice, and just makes people look dumb on their part because they DON'T know the facts.
Man has screwed up yet another breed. There are so many people down here that is breeding them who's to say if you're really getting from a good line. But if being prejudice against a breed of dog that has the potential to do deadly harm to me or any of my family members and if I look "dumb" in the process, then so be it. Better to be safe than sorry. I will NEVER own one of these dogs. JMO
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PIT BULL SHOT 12/28/05 C.L.
On Christmas day an unidentified San Jose woman was walking her small dog, when they were attacked by a pit bull. A police officer who happened to be driving by shot and killed the pit bull, named ‘Boss’. The incident happened just after noon in the 300 block of East Santa Clara St. The woman was walking her dog, and the pit bull was being walked by its’ owners nephew. Sgt Nick Muyo said, "Everything was going fine until the pit bull sees the little dog and basically starts going bananas.'' The woman screamed for help, and the passing officer stopped to help. After calling for backup, he shot the dog twice, killing it. Muyo said the officer was afraid the pit bull would attack the woman again, or attack other people that had stopped to help. The woman's hand was bitten in the attack, and it’s unknown what injuries her dog sustained.

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Man has screwed up yet another breed. There are so many people down here that is breeding them who's to say if you're really getting from a good line. But if being prejudice against a breed of dog that has the potential to do deadly harm to me or any of my family members and if I look "dumb" in the process, then so be it. Better to be safe than sorry. I will NEVER own one of these dogs. JMO
Call me ignorant and dumb too, I don't care. To me it's like owning a pet alligator or poisonous snake. I will just have to go with all of the bad things I've heard and keep them away from my family and my dogs will never play with a pit nor will I ever own one.
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PIT BULL SHOT 12/28/05 C.L.
On Christmas day an unidentified San Jose woman was walking her small dog, when they were attacked by a pit bull. A police officer who happened to be driving by shot and killed the pit bull, named ‘Boss’. The incident happened just after noon in the 300 block of East Santa Clara St. The woman was walking her dog, and the pit bull was being walked by its’ owners nephew. Sgt Nick Muyo said, "Everything was going fine until the pit bull sees the little dog and basically starts going bananas.'' The woman screamed for help, and the passing officer stopped to help. After calling for backup, he shot the dog twice, killing it. Muyo said the officer was afraid the pit bull would attack the woman again, or attack other people that had stopped to help. The woman's hand was bitten in the attack, and it’s unknown what injuries her dog sustained.

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Well this happens everyday! everywhere in the world. I am an Animal lover and i always will be no matter what happens on this planet, even when people discriminate against a helpless animal. When the Canadian Government is Banning ONE dog breed,(just ONE) When there are Killers, Drug Dealers, Murders, Horrible HUMANS walking through our streets. like Karla Homolka* if any of you know this story maybe you should read about it on the web, then think about this ONE dog breed, Our government is trying to Ban forever! Oh and for all of you that know about the Karla case, She was acquitted of ALL her restrictions. (even after Killing her OWN sister). Hmm which do you think is worse. A helpless dog, that has a bad rep, or a serial killer free to roam your streets!?

Sorry but im really upset. And im just trying voice my opinion not get bashed for loving a "dangerous" dog.
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Well thats YOUR Opinion and there are tons and tons of studies and statistics out there. I do not ignore any Legitimate facts or studies when it comes to dogs. And again No one considered Their OWNERS or the way they were trained and their home lives! Im sorry but i have been bit MANY many times by dogs of ALL breeds, it all comes with training. Any dog can kill someone or something. Its ALL in it's History at home and everyday life people NEED to realize that. ANY breed can kill. Just like PEOPLE!!!!!!!

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1) Pit bulls do NOT have locking jaws. No dog of any breed has ever been found to possess a mechanism in their jaw which would allow them to "lock" their top and bottom jaw together. There is no such thing as a locking jaw!


2) Pit bulls WILL let go after they have bitten down. Dogs bite for many reasons. The enormous majority of dog bites (from any breed) are nothing more than a nip or snap - a warning. Some dogs clamp down hard on prey objects - hence the popularity of tug toys, stuffed animals, and rope toys. Similarly, pit bulls were once bred and taught to cling to a bull's nose despite thrashing, tossing, and gouging. They love to hold on to things! But they are also extremely obedient. A properly raised pit bull will yield to his owner's command.


3) Pit bulls are NOT genetically bred to kill people! From the very beginning, pit bulls have been bred to be as human-friendly as possible. It would not make any sense for bull baiters or dog fighters to own a human-aggressive dog! Even these inhumane individuals have to handle their dogs, often in the heat of a fight. Responsible dog breeders understand that dogs are for companionship and love, not for illicit activities like dogfighting and attacking people! Most pit bulldog breeders understand the wonderful qualities that pit bulls have. They are interested in breeding quality dogs with excellent temperaments.


4) Pit bulls are good for plenty of things besides dogfighting. Pit bulls have excelled in many working-dog sports such as agility, search-and-rescue, tracking, weight pulling, carting, Shutzhund, hunting, obedience, therapy, and more! They also very loving, loyal, gentle, and attentive, making them ideal pet dogs.


5) Pit bulls are NOT always aggressive. It is the OWNER that ultimately decides how his or her dog will act in certain situations. Pit bulls are naturally very friendly towards strangers, but they will become aggressive if their owner teaches them or forces them to be that way.


6) Pit bulls CAN be trained and controlled. The pit bulldog is a highly trainable breed. They are intelligent, obedient dogs. They love to please their owner. They are very pack-oriented and do very well under strong, fair leadership. When properly trained and socialized from a young age, the pet pit bull will accept their owner's control without challenge or question.


7) Pit bulls are just as predictable as any other dog. Most people who say that a dog is "unpredictable" simply don't understand dogs. They believe the stories of people who were "just petting the dog, and suddenly it went crazy and bit me!" In the overwhelming majority of these cases, the victim simply doesn't understand or has missed canine warning signs. For more information on dog behavior and aggression, I recommend "The Culture Clash" by Jean Donaldson.

8) Truly "unpredictable" dogs are very rare. Some of these dogs have a mental disorder or disease that causes their unpredictable behavior.


9) Pit bulls can feel pain. They are not superdogs. They are just like any other dog.


10) The taste of blood has nothing to do with a dog's behavior. Imagine you're a person that doesn't know anything about dogs, so you fail to notice that your dog is displaying subtle warning signs of impending aggression. One day, the dog has finally had enough, and bites you. The bite successfully gets you to back off. Next time the dog feels threatened, he bites again. It worked the first time, after all. Subsequent bites have nothing to do with the "taste of blood". In reality, the dog is simply employing a proven successful strategy for dealing with things that are scary or threatening.


11) There is no accurate way to determine and rank the pressure of a dog's bite. Although there have been studies to attempt to answer this question, the PSI tends to vary greatly depending on who you talk to. In real life a dog's bite strength is determined by a wide variety of factors. While these include the dog's size and individual jaw strength, the severity of a bite is primarily determined by the dog's intent (i.e. aggression, fear, warning snap, playful nip), the victim's behavior (twisting or yanking the body part being bitten can increase the damage), the dog's training, and so on.

12) Interestingly, recent attempts to measure a dog's jaw strength have indicated that pit bulls have much lower bite pressure than some other breeds. For more details, check out http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Pit...banlegends.htm

13) There are NO "rare" pit bull coat or nose colors. Historically, pit bulls have been bred for performance and temperament, not appearance. This means that pit bulls come in all different colors, shapes, and sizes. "Blue" coats (which are really just diluted black or grey coats) are in fact a fad color right now, and greedy breeders are churning out "blue" dogs to make money off the fad, without concern for temperament or health. Similarly, "red nosed" pit bulls are very common. White pit bulls are often deaf. For more details about "rare" pit bulls, visit: http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html (bottom of page)

14) Potential pit bull owners who are looking to obtain a pit bull would be wise to steer clear of breeders who are breeding specifically for certain colors. Such breeders are in it for the money and could care less about the health or temperament of their dogs. Heck, why not adopt a pit bull rather than support backyard breeders and puppy mills? You can find purebred pit bulls of all colors waiting desperately for a home in shelters and rescue groups across the country.

15) No scientific studies have determined the actual pit bull population in the U.S. Random percentages seem to come out of thin air and are frequently bounced around in media reports without any legitimate source to back up such an assertion. I have heard population estimates ranging from 1% to 8% or more. Still more problematic is the disagreement as to what a "pit bull" really is - and whether "pit mixes" should be included. Pit bulls are undeniably a very popular and prolific breed-type. In some places, such as Oakland, CA, report that more "pit bulls" are registered with the city than any other breed. A few studies estimate that U.S. shelter "pit bull" populations reach 33% on average, and up to 50% or more in larger cities. The prevalence of pit bulls in shelters indicates not only an overpopulation problem, but also that a significant number of pit bulls are owned by irresponsible owners and breeders when compared to other breeds and breed-types. Unfortunately, however, without a very thorough and careful demographic study of "pit bulls" and their owners - something which has yet to be accomplished on a nationwide scale and may very well prove impossible - any pit bull population estimate is little more than a vague guessing game.
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Brittany,
With all do respect, that has been posted before and I've read it, but my views still stand when it comes to this breed of dog.
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Brittany,
With all do respect, that has been posted before and I've read it, but my views still stand when it comes to this breed of dog.
thats fine you very much entitled to your own views and opinions, but im post it for everyone. and whether it changes views or not thats everyone elses choice. Im just post-it so other viewers can make their own views and opinions about without the media(news reports) about it.
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This was another one I heard about over the weekend:

Tuesday January 10, 2006


Victim of pit bull dog attack to be buried Thursday


Poll: Oklahomans favor pit bull ban


Pit bull dog kills 4-year-old child

Emotions running high for B'ville dad whose own son was attacked in May 2005

State lawmaker working to ban pit bull breed


Poll: Oklahomans favor pit bull ban

Pit bull dog ownership is again in the spotlight following the fatal attack Friday on a 4-year-old boy in Bartlesville.

At least one state lawmaker, Rep. Paul Wesselhoft, R-Moore, has indicated he plans to introduce legislation this year to effectively ban the breed in Oklahoma.

Oklahomans favor a ban on pit bulls by more than 20 percentage points, according to a recent survey conducted by pollsters Cole Hargrave Snodgrass & Associates.

http://www.examiner-enterprise.com/a.../news/2670.txt


Parents bury 4-year-old killed by dog



PAWHUSKA - The parents of 4-year-old Cody Tyler Adair buried their son at their ranch near Pawhuska on Thursday.
Cody was killed last Friday when a pit bull terrier attacked him at his uncle's home in Bartlesville. His death followed several other pit bull terrier attacks in that city, but marked the first death in recent memory.

According to Bartlesville police Lt. Mike Richardson, Cody was playing in the front yard of his uncle's home while his mother, Rebecca Adair, was inside.

"When they didn't hear him outside anymore, they went out and he wasn't there," Richardson said. "And they went in the back and found the dog standing over him and grabbed him up and called for an ambulance."

A neighbor said she saw a firefighter try to resuscitate the boy before the ambulance left. Cody later died at a Bartlesville hospital.

Before police arrived, neighbors heard a commotion. They saw the dog, which was normally chained up.

"My husband said the dog came out and just stood there and looked like nothing had happened," said the neighbor, who asked not to be identified. "And the dog had blood all over its face and feet."

The modest neighborhood is full of stray dogs, said the neighbor, who quit taking walks when the pit bull terrier moved in last summer.

The attack on Cody only is unusual because the boy died. Pit bull terrier attacks occur regularly statewide, leaving some victims permanently injured.

In Moore, 3-year-old Cody Yelton lost his arm last June when a pit bull terrier attacked him.

That attack sparked a Moore lawmaker to seek legislation to ban pit bull terriers statewide.

Rep. Paul Wesselhoft, R-Moore, said 20 percent of attacks occur from family-owned pit bull terriers. He regularly receives e-mails and phone calls on both sides, from those who believe the dogs are safe and those who are terrified of them.

"I think any parent that would allow a small child to play with a pit bull, it comes very close to child neglect," he said. "The pit bull is genetically programmed to fight and to kill its prey and sometimes you just cannot turn that off."

The legislator said pit bulls should fall under the same category as coyotes or bobcats because of their danger.

He pointed to a three-year study conducted by the Oklahoma City Police Department, which found that pit bulls had more bite complaints than any other dog. While other dogs also bit humans, the bites of a pit bull were vicious.

"The issue isn't the frequency of the bite, it's the nature of the bite. A pit bull goes back and forth like a shark trying to tear the flesh apart. That's how it's trained. It's a very vicious animal," the legislator said.

No state agency tracks dog bites, which is something Wesselhoft also hopes to change.

Still, communities learn quickly when a severe injury occurs. Before Cody's death, two other children were severely injured from pit bull attacks.

In Bartlesville, Noah Cross, 7, suffered a broken nose, fractured bones and gashes requiring 1,000 stitches when a dog attacked him. That city, like several others, finally passed an ordinance restricting dangerous or potentially dangerous dogs.

Last month in Ardmore, two pit bull terriers killed a dog and harmed a horse. In November, a pit bull bit a Goldsby woman while she tried to protect her cattle. An 11-year-old boy also was bitten on the leg in Atoka.


Wesselhoft believes measures stricter than a city ordinance need to be taken and he said Oklahomans want the same thing.

The lawmaker pointed to a statewide poll of 500 registered voters that showed 44 percent strongly favoring a ban and 11 percent somewhat favoring a ban. Only 17 percent strongly opposed a ban and 18 percent somewhat opposed a ban, for a total of 35 percent. Ten percent were undecided.

Wesselhoft plans to introduce a bill in the next legislative session modeled after a municipal ordinance in Denver. Ultimately, he wants to ban pit bull terriers statewide.

The bill will require anyone who owns a pit bull terrier to keep the animal in a structure that is "solid and impenetrable by a child." Owners also would need to display a sign reading "pit bull dog" on their property.

In addition, a pit bull owner would have to be at least 21 and have a $100,000 liability insurance policy on every pit bull terrier -- just in case.

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I feel so sorry for that family. I would definately support that bill. It seems like it would put pits ony in the hands of responsible, pit bull-loving adults.
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Pit bulls are banned in our city and all I can say about that is THANK GOODNESS! My son once told me he'd like to get a pit bull. I told him he was nuts and if he did, he better find a kennel for that dog when he comes to visit, because that dog would not be welcome here! I don't trust them and argue with me all you want...it will do no good! They have killed and injured too many innocent people and pets and left families devestated to cope with grieving or injuries!
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I wish they would ban them here. After a pit bull came thru my window, I am all for it. I don't care how many tell me "not all pit bulls are like that" because I still believe they are dangerous now matter how they were breed, trained, or what their family life is like. I hardly here of a lab, german shepard, chow, or any other large breed dog attacking childern, adults, or pets as much as you do as pit bull.
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There was an bite/attack summary done in TExas in 1999 these dogs were held accountable for bites/ and attacks and # of times
Chow 68
Rot 57
German Shepard 41
Pit Bull 39
Chow Cross 39
Lab 27
Blue Heeler 19
Mix Breed 18
Lab Cross 17
Although pits weren't accountable for the majority of the bites/ attacks theirs did seem to be more sever. The study also showed that the bits mostly came from unaltered male dogs. Here is the link Study
Here are some more facts too
There are approximately 4.5 million reported dog bites annually in the United States (nearly 2% of the American population). The majority of dog bites are never reported to local authorities.
40% of American dog owners acquired pets primarily for protection-including German shepherds, Rottweilers, mastiffs and Doberman pinschers. (Source: New York Times, 2/26/01)
Nationwide, U.S. Postal Service carriers suffered 3,423 dog attacks and bites in 2003.

According to the American Medical Association, dog bites are the second leading cause of childhood injury, surpassing playground accidents.
Dog bites to people of the male gender are approximately two times greater than the incidence involving females.

Dogs that are licensed with an identifiable owner are implicated in the vast majority of dog bites (compared with strays).

Dogs not known to the victim account for approximately 10 - 20% of all reported dog bites.

Dog between one and five years are involved in more dog bite incidences than dogs older than 6 years. Male dogs are more frequently involved when compared with female dogs.

Mixed breeds and not pure bred dogs are the type of dog most often involved in inflicting bites to people. The pure-bred dogs most often involved are German shepherds and Chow chows.

The list of breeds most involved in both bite injuries and fatalities changes from year to year and from one area of the country to another, depending on the popularity of the breed.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention document that a chained dog is 2.8 times more likely to bite than an unchained dog. Click here for a news story about a mauling of a 4 year old child by a chained pit bull

Canines not spayed or neutered are three times more likely to bite than sterilized ones.

Of the estimated 4.7 million people who were bitten by dogs in 1994, 800,000 sought medical care. Of these, 332,000 needed treatment in emergency rooms, and 6,000 were hospitalized. The average hospital stay for a dog-bite injury was 3.6 days.

Emergency room costs for dog bite victims in the United States was about $102 million in 1994, and overall direct medical costs was about $165 million.

The majority of dog bites to adult humans are inflicted to the lower extremities followed by bites to the upper extremities including the head, face and neck. For children, 77% of dog bite injuries are to facial areas.

According to the Insurance Information Institute, dog bites accounted for about one-quarter of all claims on homeowner's insurance, costing more than $321 million in 2003. In 2002, the latest year for which numbers are available, the average claim for a dog bite was $16,600.
Dog attacks account for one-third of all liability claims on homeowners' insurance policies. According to the Western Insurance Information Service, the insurance industry paid out more than $1 billion in dog-bite claims in 1998 alone.

From 1979 to 1996, dog attacks resulted in more than 300 human dog bite related deaths in the United States. Most of the victims were children.

Approximately 20 people die every year as a result of a dog attack in the United States. By far, the majority of the victims are children.

In the two year period from 1997 to 1998, twenty-seven people died as a result of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997, and 9 in 1998).

Annually in the United States there are approximately 20 human fatalities directly resulting from a dog attack; this number is miniscule compared with human fatalities caused by gunshot (approximately 12,000 annually), accidents (approximately 100,000 annually) or health related disease processes (click here for table) (Click here for commentary on this subject)

The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.

In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.

Of the 27 people who died as a result of dog bite attacks in 1997 and 1998, 67% involved unrestrained dogs on the owner's property; 19% involved unrestrained dogs off the owner's property; 11% involved restrained dogs on the owner's property; and 4% involved a restrained dog off the owner's property.

Of the 27 people who died as a result of dog bite attacks during 1997 and 1998, 67% involved an attack by one dog; 19% involved an attack by two dogs; and 15% involved an attack by 3 or more dogs.

From 1979 to 1998, at least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in bite related deaths. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were involved in more than 50 percent of these incidences.

In a study reported by a retired professor from California State University at Chino, Robert Plum, it was found that one dog in 55 will bite someone seriously during the course of a year. With respect to breed differences in the tendency to inflict serious injury, Plumb estimates that when a pit bull bites a human, one in 16 (e.g. 1/16) will inflict serious injury; this contrasts with a ratio of 1/296 Dobermans, and 1/156 German shepherds.
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The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictability is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000 , Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)
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