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Old 12-11-2012, 06:24 AM   #1
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My Fletcher is being a little brat lately. He has a new habit and I am not sure what to do. Whenever I am talking on the phone or talking to anyone while I'm standing up in the house, he will bark at us. He will bark non-stop for attention when I'm giving my attention to someone else. If I'm sitting down talking he's fine because he'll sit on my lap. I tell him 'NO!' but he walks away all sad with his tail between his legs, like I hurt his feelings or kicked him. I mean he stops but it breaks my heart. He also does it when I'm doing dishes, folding laundry, cleaning the bathroom, anything really that takes my attention away from him.

He wants my attention, and he has even gone as far as to lift a leg on me when there are too many people standing and talking and I'm involved. Like he's marking me. Luckily its been a long time since he's done that, but I have a VERY jealous Yorkie.

Any suggestions on how I can positively stop this behavior without making him sad? I hate seeing him slink away with his tail between his legs... he's a very sensitive little guy, always fearful of something. I do not want him fearful of me at all, or my husband, by speaking firmly to him.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:30 AM   #2
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maybe just change your tone....firm but sweet and soft. cedric used to do this also and at first i ignored him..but he wouldnt stop barking so then i did have to use a firm no. he didnt get so sensitive so that worked and he understood he had to wait if i was busy doing something. i hope you find a solution sorry i cant offer better advice...maybe a jar of something that makes noise..but a sound that doesnt scare him.
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My Fletcher is being a little brat lately. He has a new habit and I am not sure what to do. Whenever I am talking on the phone or talking to anyone while I'm standing up in the house, he will bark at us. He will bark non-stop for attention when I'm giving my attention to someone else. If I'm sitting down talking he's fine because he'll sit on my lap. I tell him 'NO!' but he walks away all sad with his tail between his legs, like I hurt his feelings or kicked him. I mean he stops but it breaks my heart. He also does it when I'm doing dishes, folding laundry, cleaning the bathroom, anything really that takes my attention away from him.

He wants my attention, and he has even gone as far as to lift a leg on me when there are too many people standing and talking and I'm involved. Like he's marking me. Luckily its been a long time since he's done that, but I have a VERY jealous Yorkie.

Any suggestions on how I can positively stop this behavior without making him sad? I hate seeing him slink away with his tail between his legs... he's a very sensitive little guy, always fearful of something. I do not want him fearful of me at all, or my husband, by speaking firmly to him.
Hi there. I have a good suggestion, but I don't want to be too pushy. Quite honestly you do have a dog that is trying to be in a leadership position. This behavior is also extending to further than your family... He's using that "sensitive little guy" routine to control you. The fact of the matter is dogs do not get their feelings hurt. We humans tend to humanize our canines because we IMAGINE that we are affecting their "FEELINGS", when dogs don't have human brains and thought processess like we do. They live in the moment, which is why we can "teach an old dog new tricks"! At this new moment you should want to decide to take the burden (and it IS a burden...make no mistake) off of his shoulders and assume the alfa posititon. Decide today that you are in the lead and he needs to FALL IN LINE as he'll be happy to do. Dogs live in a social society of a PECKING ORDER, someone has to be on the top and then the trickle effect is who's in the middle and bottom. That's what it is to be a canine. The bottom (or beta) isn't "feeling" sad or depressed... or having feelings of low self esteem. These positions are a job well earned and to be worthy and proud of. In the animal world if you're not accepted...you get cast out. Being part of a social group/family is TERRIFIC! That's the good news. The bad news (perhaps...) is that it's YOUR JOB to lead. To be Alpha. It's an honour and a privilage. Your dog needs you to take the reins...so he can fall in line and relax and know everything is taken care of. He'll be happier.

When he barks say "NO!" or "No barking!" in a strong loud voice. It's an unpleasant behavior he's displaying which required an unpleasant and equally loud reaction from you. Put him in a "sit/down". It's not necessary to say "good boy" once he reacts to his down. He will only test you and begin to bark again. It will take longer at first if you do. Save the "good boy" for when he's been listening for a while.. He has to learn his place within your "pack". It won't hurt his feelings...it's merely giving him bounderies as you should with your dog. Good luck. Hope I've helped and not been too pushy... :P

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Not pushy at all. I appreciate the advice. I hate to think I hurt him, but you are probably right, I need to get him to let me be the Alpha. My boys are 7 year old 'twins' and spoiled rotten. I don't think Ive EVER been the alpha! LOL They walk all over me! (literally too!) lol Thanks!
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You could do what my mom used to do with Tashi when she barked at night say no firmly then put her in her pen ( she hated the pen so it was like time out ) and eventually she stopped almost compleatly it's firmness But when you let her out be cuddly and nice like always so they know you still love them
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Hi there. I have a good suggestion, but I don't want to be too pushy. Quite honestly you do have a dog that is trying to be in a leadership position. This behavior is also extending to further than your family... He's using that "sensitive little guy" routine to control you. The fact of the matter is dogs do not get their feelings hurt. We humans tend to humanize our canines because we IMAGINE that we are affecting their "FEELINGS", when dogs don't have human brains and thought processess like we do. They live in the moment, which is why we can "teach an old dog new tricks"! At this new moment you should want to decide to take the burden (and it IS a burden...make no mistake) off of his shoulders and assume the alfa posititon. Decide today that you are in the lead and he needs to FALL IN LINE as he'll be happy to do. Dogs live in a social society of a PECKING ORDER, someone has to be on the top and then the trickle effect is who's in the middle and bottom. That's what it is to be a canine. The bottom (or beta) isn't "feeling" sad or depressed... or having feelings of low self esteem. These positions are a job well earned and to be worthy and proud of. In the animal world if you're not accepted...you get cast out. Being part of a social group/family is TERRIFIC! That's the good news. The bad news (perhaps...) is that it's YOUR JOB to lead. To be Alpha. It's an honour and a privilage. Your dog needs you to take the reins...so he can fall in line and relax and know everything is taken care of. He'll be happier.

When he barks say "NO!" or "No barking!" in a strong loud voice. It's an unpleasant behavior he's displaying which required an unpleasant and equally loud reaction from you. Put him in a "sit/down". It's not necessary to say "good boy" once he reacts to his down. He will only test you and begin to bark again. It will take longer at first if you do. Save the "good boy" for when he's been listening for a while.. He has to learn his place within your "pack". It won't hurt his feelings...it's merely giving him bounderies as you should with your dog. Good luck. Hope I've helped and not been too pushy... :P
So dogs have dog brains that do not contain an amygdala??
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I agree with much Gontygirl says. Especially the NO BARK. It has worked well for Sophie. We only raise our voice with this one command so she knows we mean it. Unfortunately I used "the tone" once while our one year old granddaughter was here and it really scared her. Now we are somewhat hostages with our tone while she is visiting .
I have to somewhat disagree however with your logic regarding our Sophie's "feelings". I swear she has them . I have seen her slink under the bed when she seems to have hurt feeling or when seemly embarrassed. She often reacts to certain situations as a young child would. Maybe I am projecting and maybe it makes no sense at all but my intuition tells me she feels more than one may think.
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I agree with much Gontygirl says. Especially the NO BARK. It has worked well for Sophie. We only raise our voice with this one command so she knows we mean it. Unfortunately I used "the tone" once while our one year old granddaughter was here and it really scared her. Now we are somewhat hostages with our tone while she is visiting .
I have to somewhat disagree however with your logic regarding our Sophie's "feelings". I swear she has them . I have seen her slink under the bed when she seems to have hurt feeling or when seemly embarrassed. She often reacts to certain situations as a young child would. Maybe I am projecting and maybe it makes no sense at all but my intuition tells me she feels more than one may think.
No you are not projecting it...

New research suggests that social animals such as dogs and cats can choose whether to be good or bad.

Scientists have often debated whether pets such as cats snuggle up to their owners because they are showing genuine emotion towards them or if their behaviour is driven purely to elicit food and attention. Researcher and author Mark Rowlands believes that animals are indeed capable of a sense of morality, can exhibit genuine emotion and are able to make a conscious decision on how to behave.

"Animals are owed a certain kind of respect that they wouldn't be owed if they couldn't act morally," said Rowlands. "I think what's at the heart of following morality is the emotions. Evidence suggests that animals can act on those sorts of emotions."

The book, "Can Animals Be Moral?" (Oxford University Press, October 2012), suggests social mammals such as rats, dogs and chimpanzees can choose to be good or bad.
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Not pushy at all. I appreciate the advice. I hate to think I hurt him, but you are probably right, I need to get him to let me be the Alpha. My boys are 7 year old 'twins' and spoiled rotten. I don't think Ive EVER been the alpha! LOL They walk all over me! (literally too!) lol Thanks!
Your dog pics are ADORABLE!! I must give you credit for raising not one BUT TWO PUPS AT THE SAME TIME!!! O.M.G.!! I have never done that and I have done simply everything with and about dogs. My dogs walk all over me too, literally. Used to be that the pack of dogs I lived with were no lighter than 75 pounds...luckily they never walk all over me...well...I made SURE that never happened LMAOOOO!! These two I live with are light...one is 16 pounds and the other 2 and a half ALMOST 3 POUNDS. He (the almost 3 pounder...) thinks he's an elephant and ready to kick butt...so funny. I hear you tho...
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Your dog pics are ADORABLE!! I must give you credit for raising not one BUT TWO PUPS AT THE SAME TIME!!! O.M.G.!! I have never done that and I have done simply everything with and about dogs. My dogs walk all over me too, literally. Used to be that the pack of dogs I lived with were no lighter than 75 pounds...luckily they never walk all over me...well...I made SURE that never happened LMAOOOO!! These two I live with are light...one is 16 pounds and the other 2 and a half ALMOST 3 POUNDS. He (the almost 3 pounder...) thinks he's an elephant and ready to kick butt...so funny. I hear you tho...
Thanks!!! They are little stinkers... but soooo cute! Even after 7 awesome loving years with them I still look at them and think they are the CUTEST and the most impressive animals Ive ever been graced with. They are smart, needy, stubborn, loveable, manipulative, curious, bright, naughty, sweet, funny. They have behaviors that I firmly believe they know what they are doing. There is a logical thought process there, whether it's just action & reaction, they know. Dexter knows when Fletcher is on my lap, if he just looks at the window and barks that Fletch will go flying to the window and my lap is open for Dexter to curl up in!! He does this soooo often, it's hysterical and you know he knows exactly what kind of reaction he's going to get when he barks at the window.
Raising 2 pups at one time was not that hard. It's like 1 1/2x the work of only 1 pup. They both go out at the same time, eat at the same time, sleep in the same bed, small enough to both be with me at the same time. I am sooooo glad that I got them both at the same time. They are so attached to each other and so happy, they are never alone. One is never without the other one.
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I believe dogs have feelings that can be hurt. I've seen my older dog lower his head and look up at me with sad eyes when I've gotten onto him. He only wants to please me so if I get onto him for something, he feels bad or sad..something.

Mandie..and from everything I have read - yorkies...are very sensitive. That would require an ability to feel emotions.

With that said, I have not offered any advice to the OP because I have had this exact same problem with my sheltie mix. I have yet to figure out what the cause is. I used to live with my mom and if I was standing and talking to my mom in the living room or something, Shelby-Dale would bark and get in between us and try to jump up on one of us. BUT, if we were sitting and talking on the couch..he was cool. It's something about the standing and it he doesn't do it if it's me and hubby..so it's not just the standing convo..it's a combination of standing and talking with my mom (or anyone other than my husband maybe). I've done the firm "no" til I'm blue in the face..doesn't stop him. I have to go put him in the bedroom and close the door if I want him to stop
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The only time chachi does this is when you walk in the door from being somewhere I just give him a little attention then he quits. Its annoying sometimes though I couldnt handle it if he were more needy than that so I dont know how you do it hopefully you get some good advice on how to stop it
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New research suggests...
I always get such a kick out of "scientists" that seek to prove what many of us "ordinary folk" have observed for eons of generations, then label it "new research" for publication of THEIR "findings"...lol I couldn't call, without lying, what I've witnessed "new" at all if I was to publish it because I have been observing animals since I've been on the Earth. lol

I have to agree...animals are not "stupid" as they have been labeled at times per my experience. Some may be...just like some humans I have known and loved, and been in traffic with...but in my experiences with animals, I have seen them make such positive efforts to communicate their wishes including duplicating verbiage...words, be reasonable...and NOT so reasonable...grieve, express friendship, sympathy, and genuine love, etc. My experience indicates they have long memories, too. I'd love to chalk it up to my imagination, but...alas...while I am at least somewhat imaginative, I do NOT believe that I am THAT imaginative. roflmao

I expect there are situations that are completely "pack" oriented...like we humans exhibit at sporting events and/or music concerts, but I also believe that not all situations can be explained by "pack" mentality.

Mia has never acted as OP describes Fletcher acting, but Brody sometimes is very 'pushy' about getting attention and having things 'his' way. My little Yorkie-Poo would "snub" me...literally put his little black nose in the air, and slowly closing his eyes turn his face up and away at a rotating angle away from my direction, peeking out of the corner of his eye occasionally to check to see if I was still looking, and if I was, would clamp that eye closed and re-do the "snub" until he finally 'got over it' or I quit paying attention...and hilariously laughing.

My Shep/Lab was trained to voice commands and hand signals, and started losing her hearing...or so I thought, until she was looking directly at me when I gave her a "sit" signal and she quickly jerked her head up and away as if to say she did not hear or see that command. She repeated the behavior, too...but she obviously wasn't blind...lol I think she quit 'cuz she realized she was BUSTED 'cuz we were laughing soooo hard she knew the jig was up!

It could just be that if they exhibit what we consider/call 'childish' behavior and we respond as if they WERE a child...perhaps by becoming flustered, or giving in, reinforcing that their behavior 'worked'...or maybe, by ignoring the behavior, calmly just relocating them to a 'safe place' or a time out...whatever, but some behavior that clearly shows them that their actions will NOT have the desired result, they will learn/quit...like a child in a tantrum. At least, that has been my experience with many different animals...dogs and even some cats.

As I said, Brody has acted similarly...just barking...not peeing on me, but so far only when I was preparing him and Mia a snack or treat, when he occasionally, impatiently, barks incessantly in an apparent attempt 'to hurry me up' or something. The last time he did that, I removed him from the room and closed the door...a glass bi-fold...to signal him that I would not allow him to bark at me while I cut chicken up for him...I also postponed delivery of the treat until he'd settled down.

You may have to experiment a little...and maybe with more than one 'gentle correction' to get him to realize his efforts are futile.

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My daughter recently bought a Sunbeam Sonic Egg from Petsmart and she said it has really helped with her dogs excessive barking. My daughter said she bought me one for Christmas too so I am anxious to try it out. I have a few yorkie that bark excessively at times.
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That is what I need, a gentle correction. With him, he's a nervous wreck 90% of the time. He flinches like he's been beaten, even though I've had him since he was 9 weeks old and he's never been hit, kicked or abused in any way. If anyone gets too loud, he slinks off to hide under the bed in fear. He puts his tail b/t his legs and his ears down a lot. He is just a very nervous dog. I don't want to scare him even more. I think removing him from the room, like gating him in the living room while I am talking in the kitchen is a good idea. He'll hate being gated away from me. But at least I won't be speaking harshly to him, or not letting him see me. Hope this will work for him.

Thanks so much for the wonderful advice!
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