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Old 08-02-2012, 06:05 PM   #31
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AKC registry has nothing to do with this. There are many puppy mills that sell AKC registered dogs. Most people who buy a purebred dog do it because they want a particular look and personality trait and not bragging rights. Many of these designer dog breeders charge as much and more for their pups than purebred breeders do. Many of these so called Hollywood "starlets" that tote little dogs around in their bags have "designer" dogs as well as purebred. The problem is that a large number of the designer as well as purebred dogs are not what the buyer was promised. Since it has become such a fad to buy a small breed dog many of the people who buy these dogs have never had a dog and do not know how to care for them. When the cute little puppy becomes a medical burden or grows too large they don't want it anymore. It is the breeding of poor quality, sickly dogs and selling them to whoever has the right amount of dollars that is the real issue.......and that happens with designer and purebred dogs. Mixed breed dogs are just as loveable as any other dog but to breed poor quality sickly dogs under horrific conditions and then sell them without regard to how they will be taken care of is beyond contemptible.
This is really it in nut shell, there are good breeders and bad breeders both in purebreds and in mixes. I have had dogs for 24 years, except for the last two years they have been purebred yorkies. I also don't think of myself as a celebrity watcher but when it came time to get a new dog and I knew I wanted something different, I remembered seeing about 10 min of the old reality show with Jessica Simpson, she had a cute little white with some apricot tips dog. I goggled it until I found out what it was, a mati poo, I then I started goggling adult malti poos and saw how different each of them looked and how some people were charging big bucks and that sort of changed my mind. If people don't do that that is not the breeders fault, it's the fault of the stupid uniformed buyer. Many people buy purebreds and are not happy with their temperament or how they look like when they mature. Yorkies have become so overbred there are people that have purebreds that by looking at them I would have thought them to be a mix. I remember hearing once how pure bred dalmatians were often give up, because of how high strung they are.

There are lots of dogs in shelters and if you adobt one I think it is great, but not everyone is approved to adopt or many people are not cut out for the issues that can come with shelter dogs. So it goes without saying a lot of people want puppies, should that not be allowed, should that be outlawed. So where are they supposed to go for dogs, what if they don't want to shell out the money for a dog from a show breeder, what's left, are there really many breeders out there willing to do it for fun and make no money. If you have healthy dogs that are not the same breed is it more of a crime to breed them than two healthy so so looking purebreds, I really don't see the difference. IMHO it is up to the buyer to sort through the abundant info out there and get a dog that suits there need regardless if it is a mutt or a purbred
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:18 PM   #32
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There is a well known hobby breeder in my town that sells a lot of registered yorkies. If you want a yorkie here that is who everyone says to go to. Well, I have seen her pups and they are very poor quality and definitely not breed standard. I have asked a few people that I know who have bought puppies from her why they chose to buy from her. Their reply, "her dogs are AKC registered".
That's why AKC registration is ONE of the things to look for..not the only thing. The breeder's reputation and quality of breeding stock is equally or more important, IMO.

I actually went to look at a female yorkie puppy of a local breeder just last weekend. It was clear upon pulling into the driveway & seeing some of the dogs in the fenced front yard, that she had poor quality breeding stock. Her puppies came with AKC papers, but it was obvious she was a BYB and was just breeding whatever dogs she had for the cash from the sale of puppies. It was night & day from the home & breeder that ZoE came from, but ZoE is not breed standard either! (she's a teapot ) But, she definately looks like a yorkie, and has the terrier temperament, and has an excellent health guarantee and a breeder who's still there as support a year & a half after the sale.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:28 PM   #33
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Definition of FREE ENTERPRISE
:" freedom of private business to organize and operate for profit in a competitive system without interference by government beyond regulation necessary to protect public interest and keep the national economy in balance." What is something actually worth? As much as someone is willing to pay for it! Fortunately, in this country, anyone can pay whatever THEY think the product is worth to them. So, if anyone wants to pay $30.00 or $3000.00 for a dog, a cat, a goat...whatever...if that animal is important enough, and desirable enough to THAT person, and they have the where-with-all to fork over the amount, that is a freedom they have not had taken away....there are no "Price Regulators" running around (YET!!!), dictating how much someone can charge for their product, or what someone is allowed to pay for that product!!! (We are not talking about price gouging on items people MUST buy during emergency situations, etc.) If someone crosses a hamster and a Yorkie, says it costs $3000.00 to own one of these "Yorksters", and Joe thinks it is the cutest thing he has ever seen and has the money to buy it, Joe is not being forced to buy this product...he WANTS the Yorkster, and he will pay the price for it.....if I dont like people doing this, and I think Joe is getting skrwed, that is MY right to think that...but it is NOT my right to try to STOP whoever, from charging whatever the public is WILLING to pay to own that product! IF NO ONE LIKES YORKSTERS, AND NO ONE BUYS THEM, THE PRICE WILL PLUMMET, AND THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT BE PRODUCED ANYMORE! (I personally do not like breeding mixes...the pounds and rescues are full of mixes....they are none the less, great little animals, adorable and loving and smart, no less so than any purebreds, and I grew up owning many mixes....never knew dogs were intentionally bred and puppies came with papers....and if I was wanting a mix breed, and I wnted to travel to the Hamptons and buy it from a Kennedy, and they were charging thousands of dollars for it, if I wanted the right to say MY dog came from a Kennedy, from the Hamptons, then I would pay that amount for the freedom to do that! If that was not important to me, I would go to the pound, and save a precious little soul that was looking at their last day on Earth....My intention here is not to defend "greeders" or puppy mills or anyone that does horrible things to animals...I simply do not believe what people pay for something or what people charge for a product, should be regulated and dictated by anyone else. The demand for the product is what should be the driving force of price control. I believe in free enterprise......
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I have 2 full blood AKC yorkies. I also have a maltese/yorkie and a shih tzu/yorkie. All 4 are spayed/neutered. Does it matter to me that 2 are purebred....no. I love them all the same.

I see both sides. But, I wouldnt trade my mutts for anything is this world!
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I have 2 full blood AKC yorkies. I also have a maltese/yorkie and a shih tzu/yorkie. All 4 are spayed/neutered. Does it matter to me that 2 are purebred....no. I love them all the same.

I see both sides. But, I wouldnt trade my mutts for anything is this world!
So, to be specific about your pups...... was the Maltese and Shi Tzu bred with yorkies for appearance of one and the temperament of the other (or maybe some other mix of qualities) . I know there are breeders who mix them for more moneyand there are "oops litters " but I believe some of them do it for a real purpose and I was curious as to why (like the first labradoodles were bred to get an intelligent "hypo-allergenic" guidedog (I believe this is correct-been a while since I read about that).
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So, to be specific about your pups...... was the Maltese and Shi Tzu bred with yorkies for appearance of one and the temperament of the other (or maybe some other mix of qualities) . I know there are breeders who mix them for more moneyand there are "oops litters " but I believe some of them do it for a real purpose and I was curious as to why (like the first labradoodles were bred to get an intelligent "hypo-allergenic" guidedog (I believe this is correct-been a while since I read about that).
The problem is when breeding a mix dog there is no guarantee that it will have such and such from one breed and such and such from the other breed and its just not something a good breeder does. All good breeders breed to better the breed and mixes are not a breed so that can't be done.
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WHY do people breed mixed breed puppies ? Some intentional mixed breedings are done because, people think they will be cute and/ or to make money by selling the pups. Less often pure breed dogs of different types are mixed because the breeder is trying to improve health, by eliminating some genetic fault or predisposition to a disease. Even more rare, is a breeder that is trying to create a new breed altogether. Creating a new breed takes many generations of excellent record keeping, and testing. A breed becomes a new breed when all the dogs born have certain consistent traits EVERY time. A true understanding of genetics and scientific research is needed.
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Fwiw IMO It's is $$. I 've seen Larbradoodles go for $2k. The Sire and bitch weren't even good standard quality. I'm seen Standard Poodles Champions with health checks all the good stuff and records of breeding go for 1/2 that.
Yes good Laradoodles are getting there own breeding system going. But as with purebred and mixes theres bad breeders and good breeders. I just like the history and health of my pups. And I like Yorkies.
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First off, I want to say that I have absolutely NO problem with mixed breed dogs/mutts. Some of them are amazing dogs. I might consider owning one eventually. That being said, it annoys me to no end when people try to brag about their "purebred" morkie-shih-poo-spaniel. I don't really understand the hype about designer dogs myself, but I guess you can sell anything that's "rare" with a fancy name. The only reason that they even exist is because bad breeders can buy cheap dogs that don't apply to the the breed standard, mix them, get cute puppies, and charge a fortune for them. (I mean, who can resist the little puppy face?)

You can have a Yorkie-poo because you want a compromise between Yorkies and poodles, but you have to understand that a mixed breed's traits and temperament can be somewhat unpredictable. (They could act/look like either breed. One breed's traits might not show up at all.) I'm not saying that purebred dogs are better (or worse) than mixed breeds, but they're much more predictable in potential health issues, color, and size. So in conclusion, I think designer dogs are ripoffs, and you're better off at a shelter looking for a mixed breed.
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^^ agree^^. Mixed dogs are cool but paying an arm and a leg. And not getting the history,checkups and everything else that comes with a purebreed isn't worth double the $$?? IMO. Sure they can sell to make $$ but the prices I've seen are ridiculous. Guess ppl will pay.
Fwiw some mixed breed dogs I have when I was growing up were some of the coolest smarted dogs I've have.

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I sort of posed a question earlier, but I will rephrase it, if someone one wants a non show quality but decent looking yorkie puppy (not rescue) or something similar but can't spend more than $500.00 where should they look? Is it to much to expect to get a healthy dog for around $500.00 I used to think perhaps a mix was the answer but now I hear they are selling for an arm and a leg as well, that was not the case when I bought Lola but perhaps that has changed.
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I sort of posed a question earlier, but I will rephrase it, if someone one wants a non show quality but decent looking yorkie puppy (not rescue) or something similar but can't spend more than $500.00 where should they look? Is it to much to expect to get a healthy dog for around $500.00 I used to think perhaps a mix was the answer but now I hear they are selling for an arm and a leg as well, that was not the case when I bought Lola but perhaps that has changed.
Buying a pup from somebody it's reasonable to spend a few hundred if you get the care . Just when they say designer Morkie and want $1,500. To much imo. While some Morkies are really cute some look funny. But you can get a Yorkie that has Champion parents with a long line of health and breeding history for the same price. Before I got my pup I was going to the shelters. The ones I wanted were taken. I agree with rescuing a pup. But if I'm going to commit to the pup it still has to have traits I like.JMO
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I sort of posed a question earlier, but I will rephrase it, if someone one wants a non show quality but decent looking yorkie puppy (not rescue) or something similar but can't spend more than $500.00 where should they look? Is it to much to expect to get a healthy dog for around $500.00 I used to think perhaps a mix was the answer but now I hear they are selling for an arm and a leg as well, that was not the case when I bought Lola but perhaps that has changed.
To answer your question, in my situation yes it was possible. I got my Heff for 450.00, and a full year health guarantee. I took him to the vet right after I got him, he had a full health check, no worms, no ear mites, and had a good start to his shots, and last but not least he is PERFECT for me. But I do understand that depending on location this is not always possible!
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I sort of posed a question earlier, but I will rephrase it, if someone one wants a non show quality but decent looking yorkie puppy (not rescue) or something similar but can't spend more than $500.00 where should they look? Is it to much to expect to get a healthy dog for around $500.00 I used to think perhaps a mix was the answer but now I hear they are selling for an arm and a leg as well, that was not the case when I bought Lola but perhaps that has changed.
To answer your question, in my situation yes it was possible. I got my Heff for 450.00, and a full year health guarantee. I took him to the vet right after I got him, he had a full health check, no worms, no ear mites, and had a good start to his shots, and last but not least he is PERFECT for me. But I do understand that depending on location this is not always possible!
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I paid a whopping $200 for my yorkie mix. I don't have a problem with mixes. I have a problem with the breeders who are trying to glamourize mixes and making a fortune off of them.
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