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08-04-2012, 12:35 PM | #46 | |
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
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08-04-2012, 01:25 PM | #47 |
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| There is a law in the genetics of purebred dogs. The line will tend to deteriorate unless only the strongest and the most fit are used to continue the line. Even with breeding the most fit in a particular line some will be born that do not carry genes that will pass on the best characteristics of the breed externally as well as health wise. Sometimes a very beautiful specimen of the breed will not be able to reproduce a puppy as nice as it's self. The breeder has to do experimental breeding in order to "prove" a particular dog can produce a good specimen of the breed. It is a complicated time consuming and expensive thing to even maintain the characteristics of the breed. When a puppy is sold as a pet it usually has some flaw that perhaps the untrained eye would not catch but that pup may also carry some other flaws that no one can see. If this puppy is eventually bred with another pet quality dog the breeding will produce offspring that have more flaws externally as well as weaknesses that cannot be seen, like health or temperament. As these animal's offspring continue to be bred the offspring continue to degenerate in both the external and internal issues. This is why people who are called backyard breeders as well as puppy mills are producing genetically weakened as well as genetically damaged pups. This is not about not liking mixed breeds. It is about the welfare of the dogs as well as new owners. Yes, many of you have obtained a nice backyard breeder pet and that is wonderful but there are many that are buying these dogs and using them for breeding and continuing to produce puppies that look little like the original breed and carry serious health issues. Is it fair to the others who got the sick offspring? Or the person who thought they were getting a particular looking dog and got something else? Some people think they can put one cute dog with another and produce more of the same but it does not work that way. I am not saying that everyone who shows dogs are producing the best offspring. It is a challenge even for the professionals to continue to produce beautiful healthy dogs. But when you put two pet quality dogs of any breed together it results in a weakening of the offspring. If you choose to disregard the facts and continue to breed poor quality animals you are doing the offspring as well as the new owners a disservice. It breaks my heart to hear and read the stories of people who purchased a sweet little fluffy puppy that quickly showed serious signs of illness and either died or required thousands of dollars in vet bills to help it to live a few years. It is even more tragic when the new owner cannot afford to put out the money for those vet bills. If a person cannot pay more than a couple of hundred dollars for a purebred dog or "designer" dog they should think of the risk they are taking in buying a puppy that may require multiple vet bills just to save it's life. I am an advocate for all animals but I am totally against people who take the breeding of purebred dogs as a game of Russian Roulette. |
08-04-2012, 04:51 PM | #48 |
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| If you mean genetic testing, not that I am aware of, he is full blood yorkie, not registered and I didn't buy him to breed or to show, I bought him to love! And I have the means to take care of any unexpected vet bills that may arise!
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08-04-2012, 08:29 PM | #49 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Yes but that's how so many pups are born and suffer with genetic issues is because there not tested. Puppies could avoid suffering from terrible genetic illnesses if every one did genetic testing before breeding. Its not just a few vet bills with certain genetic illnesses its a really serious thing.
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08-04-2012, 09:19 PM | #50 | |
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Both these failed and greed took over. Of cpurse many moxes just accidently happened some were cuter than others spme got cute names and if research prevails it was actually pounds and rescuea thay tried to push these cutesy names like chorkie sonce many people weren't as interested in a hybrid called a mut...greeders took this an ran with it. I have and love my Schnorkie a pup mill rescue mini schnauzer yorkie hybrid, Derik had a whip back...rhodesian ridgeback whippet cross he also rescued frpm a breeder dumping at the hs...seems a male whippet ran many miles from a race kennel to impregnate a ridgevack female newly arrived and in heat from SA...the breeder chose not to abort the mismate hoping to sell the pups as designer...the whole litter ended up at the hs.... Some hybrid took off some havent. I dont get strange multimixes nonalc like mikis teddy bears and sugar babbies
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08-05-2012, 06:37 AM | #51 |
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08-05-2012, 02:26 PM | #52 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | Lets face it people.... We ALL LOve our babies ! Mixed or not, regardless of how much we paid for them. It just comes down to personal preference of pure breed or mixed and just how much you are willing to pay for either.
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08-05-2012, 05:34 PM | #53 | |
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08-06-2012, 07:16 AM | #54 |
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| I bought Zoe our Shorkie beore I knew anything about mix breeds. I bought her in a pet shop near our home because I fell in love with her. I paid $1300 for her. She is the shaggiest dog I've ever seen. Although we have a pure yorkie, two pure shih tzus and two basset hounds, she was the most expensive of all our dogs. I love all dogs and by the way Zoe has papers on her from her breeder and even if she didn't I don't care. |
08-06-2012, 11:50 AM | #55 |
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| There arent any officials papers for mixes.
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08-06-2012, 03:22 PM | #56 |
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| The CKC will register mixes.
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08-06-2012, 03:34 PM | #57 |
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| Ckc as in continental not canadian will register anything as long as you pay the fees, they are NOT a legitimate registry. There are several registries that will eegister anything and allow for pedigrees to ve created these registries are not official, legitimate or to be thought of as worth more than the paper they are printed on. Some will argue what I said...well if as a buyer I can take a pic fill ouy papers and get a dog registered with no real proof of anything then its worthless. When my breeder mislabled a number on my reg oapers with akc they caught it right away and asked for further proof from both my breeder and myself before allowing the transfer to my name. Despite a sales contract givibg me registration rights I am appealing to the akc when another breeder refused to send or submit the transfer for another of my dogs. In America the AKC is the only legitimate registry. Sure the American Pet Registry is fun your pound rescue pup can get papers but the isssue begins when people think these papers are in anyway official proof of anything.
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08-06-2012, 06:02 PM | #58 |
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| Oh my. I have a yorkie-poo, 2 pure bred Yorkies ( no Papers ), 2 Sorkie-Poos ( I guess you would call them that their Momma is a Silky and their Daddy is a Yorkie Poo and I have 1 pure bred AKC registered Silky Terrier. Not one of them is better than the other. I love them all the same and I would not trade one of them for anything. The most I paid for any of them was Sadie (Silky). Scooter was rescued from a puppy mill as was Molly and Little Dude Gizmo. Thor and Skatie are the result of my own ignorance but I have learned my lesson. All of my babies are fixed. Just wanted to throw in their that Sadie came from a bad breeder and she has the health issues where the rest of them are all in good health. Go figure she is the AKC registered one : (
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08-06-2012, 06:18 PM | #59 | |
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08-06-2012, 11:43 PM | #60 |
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| Very rrue eveb AKC oapers are only as legitimate as the breeder who sibmitted them but at least the AKC will investigate, and revoke registration rights so someone caught being fraudulent. AKC is pushing more and more for DNA banking but its no where close to required as of now, especially in this economy.
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