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Old 10-24-2010, 06:04 PM   #16
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I've read up about Puppy Mills and I def. dont' want to purchase from someone like that. But with her..I don't know. She told me she's been breeding Yorkies for 22yrs. She currently has 12 that she breeds. She told me that at some point or another one of the dogs is having puppies, so she always has them for sale.

She also told me that from time to time she will cross breed her yorkies and another dog (to make a "morkie"). She doesn't charge much for her dogs $500. I asked her about microchipping and she told me, "I dont' do that. If your dog gets lost I dont want it coming back to me"
She hasn't been breeding yorkie for 22 yrs, she's been exploiting yorkies for 22 yrs! And she has TWELEVE females? OMG she is a byb on the verge of puppymill. How can you even take care of 12 bitches not to mention her males??? Oh wait, YOU DON'T. Not properly anyway. She doesn't want those dogs getting back to her bc she doesn't give a flying flip about them. this woman makes me sick. she needs to sell some more stuffed bears and flowers and stop living off the backs of innocent animals. Now i'm in a really bad mood.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:58 AM   #17
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This is an AKC requirement, I said nothing about the government. If you are breeding your dogs must be identified; not collar. Tatoo was done priorly, however, it has gone to MicroChip. AKC sells their Chips/Scanners via their store. Pet ID, DNA of required Sires, Paper Work, identification of each dogs on crates. If you're breeding you need to go and read their requirements. There will be a time that they may inspect you. It doesn't matter if it's 1 litter or 7 litters a year.

By "we" do you mean you. We still have to identify via License, the government requires rabies.

By the way in since you quoted me, the "Hey" was addressing me wasn't it? Not being rude but, I do have a name.

my quotes were directly off the akc website and no where on there did i find that it was requirement to microchip or tattoo..i was asking for where that particular info was located so that i could read it

"hey" was a greeting...didnt think addressing you by name was necessary since i quoted you.
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This is an AKC requirement, I said nothing about the government. If you are breeding your dogs must be identified; not collar. Tatoo was done priorly, however, it has gone to MicroChip. AKC sells their Chips/Scanners via their store. Pet ID, DNA of required Sires, Paper Work, identification of each dogs on crates. If you're breeding you need to go and read their requirements. There will be a time that they may inspect you. It doesn't matter if it's 1 litter or 7 litters a year.

By "we" do you mean you. We still have to identify via License, the government requires rabies.

By the way in since you quoted me, the "Hey" was addressing me wasn't it? Not being rude but, I do have a name.

the "WE" was from a quote off the AKC website thats why there was quotation marks

i have not bred a litter of akc to date..i do have 2 akc yorkies

i know about the gov't requiring rabies

i swear i was generally interested in learning about the mandatory id requirements and all you can do it pick apart my post.

i was on the AKC site, and quoted AKC comments..i wasnt meaning you and me when i copied and pasted the "WE"

you get defensive because i said HEY

forget it...its not worth it
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just a heads up for anyone else that was interested in the required id through AKC

i just got off the phone with Ruth at the AKC headquarters in NY

and it is NOT required to id, mircrochip or tattoo by AKC or for AKC

feel free to check behind me 212.696.8200
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just a heads up for anyone else that was interested in the required id through AKC

i just got off the phone with Ruth at the AKC headquarters in NY

and it is NOT required to id, mircrochip or tattoo by AKC or for AKC

feel free to check behind me 212.696.8200
Who ever you spoke to gave you incorrect info. I've been at my breeder's house when the AKC rep had been there. And used his scanner to insure her dogs were microchiped. It is one of the requirements.
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just a heads up for anyone else that was interested in the required id through AKC

i just got off the phone with Ruth at the AKC headquarters in NY

and it is NOT required to id, mircrochip or tattoo by AKC or for AKC

feel free to check behind me 212.696.8200
By the way the workers in the know are at tne Raleigh offces not the NY offices.
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i just called and got AKC
i used the AKC number listed on the AKC website and got an AKC employee named Ruth
who explained that, that is not a requirement

i have no seen where all the for sale ads are selling akc puppies say micrcochipped
i purchased one not 6 months ago that was no id'd and one a year ago that was not id'd

the akc employee did mention that she had heard it before but that it was not AKC

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apparently there are two locations

ill call Raleigh...since you say the NY location is not knowledgeable of their own business
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Sigga at the Raleigh location just confirmed it is NOT a requirement
to microchip or tattoo or whatever your pup or a litter of pups

so now i have spoken with 2 AKC employees at 2 different locations and received the SAME info
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Hi Tammy.

I would look up Mardelin's name. She is highly reputable here in California. I do not think she was meaning to be rude by any means...but you know how boards go--no facial expressions or gestures so they can be taken rudely.

I talked at great lengths with breeders here and Mardelin is right, if the AKC were to inspect them they do check for microchips. They need to know where puppies are coming from. I like the requirement personally. Keep people responsible.When we purchased my puppy the breeder explained everything that goes on when they inspect because I was very interested as you seem to be. A good breeder wants to offer all they can.
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i did find something on the site..but it pertains to LARGE number of dogs (its states 20 plus dogs), kennels, pet stores and that some time of identification is required to maintain information on how old, who the parents are, akc registration number...be it a tag, a tattoo or chip...sounds more like if your a puppy miller you need to keep tabs on who's who

im calling for clarification

spoke to Sarah in Raleigh


collars are acceptable forms of id, tags, ur supposed to id your dog but it does not have to be micro chipping so an every day collar and tag is fine

if you have 20 or more dogs you are required to have good identification and can CHOOSE to microchip and they have scanners to confirm the chips when they visit
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You get what you pay for...and it might mean tons of money and lots of heartache down the road if you get an ill-bred puppy. I'd say don't even consider buying from this woman.

I really dislike this statment..Im not defending this 'breeder" at all, but you can spend thousands of dollars and get a sick dog. I have never paid over 600 hundred dollars for my "pets".. they are not show quality and other than a few belly aches and a ear infections.. they all have been relativly healthy. If you are only looking for a pet quality dog, then why is it so wrong to only spend a hundreds of dollars on a dog and not thousands???

i agree with most of what has been posted about this topic, you should probably look for another breeder.
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i just called and got AKC
i used the AKC number listed on the AKC website and got an AKC employee named Ruth
who explained that, that is not a requirement

i have no seen where all the for sale ads are selling akc puppies say micrcochipped
i purchased one not 6 months ago that was no id'd and one a year ago that was not id'd

the akc employee did mention that she had heard it before but that it was not AKC

call your self

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New York, NY 10016
Telephone: 212.696.8200
Office Hours: 8:15 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. ET
weekdays (Monday - Friday) except holidays

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AKC Operations Center
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apparently there are two locations

ill call Raleigh...since you say the NY location is not knowledgeable of their own business
NY location is headquarters for all the muckie mucks.

Now, I think there is a bit of confusion going.

No, the AKC does not require you chip the pups you sell.

However, if you are operating a kennel your breeding dogs must be identified. Tatooing was the preferred method until Mircochipping entered the picture. Again if you are breeding dogs your breeding dogs must be identified. AKC does sell chips an scanners by a manufacturer of their choice.

In addition individual crates must have the dog's information on them. Registered Name, DOB, Sire & Dam names, registration number, DNA #, Chip #.
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i did find something on the site..but it pertains to LARGE number of dogs (its states 20 plus dogs), kennels, pet stores and that some time of identification is required to maintain information on how old, who the parents are, akc registration number...be it a tag, a tattoo or chip...sounds more like if your a puppy miller you need to keep tabs on who's who

im calling for clarification

spoke to Sarah in Raleigh


collars are acceptable forms of id, tags, ur supposed to id your dog but it does not have to be micro chipping so an every day collar and tag is fine

if you have 20 or more dogs you are required to have good identification and can CHOOSE to microchip and they have scanners to confirm the chips when they visit
# of dogs has no bearing, I know breeders that have no more than 6 breeding dogs. If you are breeding the requirements are the same, a permanent, nonremovable id on the dog, info on crate and all paper work in order; Breeding dates, whelping dates, who you sold your pups to, DNA info, shot info.......
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Mardelin is one of our finest Breeders/Exhibitor that is a YTCA member and has been Mentored by only the Best and has Championed many Yorkies. tammy8833 just wondering if you are a Breeder? I looked on your site and it seems like you Breed Yorkies. Just wondering.
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