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Old 10-27-2010, 04:46 PM   #91
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Did you not say you were new to AKC? You have not bred AKC yet, and you wanted to know you were doing it right? Yes, you did. You like to argue? I went directly off what you said. If you really cared to do it right you would not cross breed, or have started with CKC in the first place.

this is absurd

i am new to akc i wanted to know about the micrcochipping..

..some people like cross breeds some do not..i do it because i enjoy
i have never had a problem with selling them..i literally have a litter of yorkipoms now 3 and 4 yorkies..the yorkiepoms were are sold before they were born...2 to a lady that got one before and i had to CHOOSE btw 2 other families for the 3rd one... yet i still have yorkies available.
i look at it this way..if they didnt sell i wouldnt do it...doesnt really matter..the female is getting fixed and i have no more of her line..i thought about breeding one of her boys to another female but i havent decided that..i would like to continue her line because it has been so popular for me.

i had CKC to start with..if i didnt care would i have not moved on to AKC??? i am not against mixing but doest make me not care about the breed but i view it differently. im into pets..not show dogs..i dont believe that they should only be bred for shows..there are many people out there that want yorkies and i dont think its right to limit them because someone else thinks they shouldnt because they have kids or dont fit their questionaire or cant afford 3000.00 for a show quality yorkie...my reasons are different then the show breeders


there are others that agree with me but dont feel comfortable to post it
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:47 PM   #92
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This is an excellent point to why certain breeders should be help above others. It's like trying to compare Goodwill to Saks Fifth Ave.
Amen Sister. Some people wont listen. Hope the light bulb comes on one day.
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Tammy, you can turn this around and start doing the right thing. Please, I urge you. Stop crossbreeding. Where do your dogs come from? Do you know their lineage? Does your vet test for inherited diseases? You need to talk with some of the rescue people. Too many dogs getting euthanized because of this kind of breeding practices. My mentor has walls of Champions,over 150 and she can tell you all about great great great great great great grandparents and even further. Thats a person who loves this breed and only breeds for the betterment. She tells me about a dogs she took in the ring in 1970. Can you tell me anything about your YorkiePoms? Do you get it? There is more than tattooing or micro chipping.

im glad you have a great mentor..im not in it for showing..im in it because i enjoy the breed, i enjoy breeding and meeting the new owners and watching them grow and visiting with them
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this is absurd

i am new to akc i wanted to know about the micrcochipping..

..some people like cross breeds some do not..i do it because i enjoy
i have never had a problem with selling them..i literally have a litter of yorkipoms now 3 and 4 yorkies..the yorkiepoms were are sold before they were born...2 to a lady that got one before and i had to CHOOSE btw 2 other families for the 3rd one... yet i still have yorkies available.
i look at it this way..if they didnt sell i wouldnt do it...doesnt really matter..the female is getting fixed and i have no more of her line..i thought about breeding one of her boys to another female but i havent decided that..i would like to continue her line because it has been so popular for me.

i had CKC to start with..if i didnt care would i have not moved on to AKC??? i am not against mixing but doest make me not care about the breed but i view it differently. im into pets..not show dogs..i dont believe that they should only be bred for shows..there are many people out there that want yorkies and i dont think its right to limit them because someone else thinks they shouldnt because they have kids or dont fit their questionaire or cant afford 3000.00 for a show quality yorkie...my reasons are different then the show breeders


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WHAT!!! What hat did you pull that out of? Not true at all.
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im glad you have a great mentor..im not in it for showing..im in it because i enjoy the breed, i enjoy breeding and meeting the new owners and watching them grow and visiting with them
Tammy, how can you enjoy breeding? Sorry, I dont get that.
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i give respect to everyone until i feel it is no longer earned by me...

i have always been respectful on this site i have been here a very long time...but it seems when i start spending time on it..i am displeased ...it was better in 2006 then it is now..

i do things different, everyone does, it doesnt make me less then, or a bad breeder, or undeserving of respect

the marjority of all of this started because i greeted someone in my friendly way..yet has turned it all around about my breeding practice which i typically do not share on here..YT is not friendly of breeders who do not show and breed to the highest of high standard or cross breeding (there are alot of closet breeders on yt =) because of this attitudee)... i agree i was peeved and i did want to prove a point that why i DID the research and called the AKC companies...so that I KNOW what is correct
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Tammy, how can you enjoy breeding? Sorry, I dont get that.

???

how can you not enjoy it? i would think anyone who does it enjoys it?

i love the pregnancy, i love the delivery, i love watching them develope...

i think its incredible
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this is absurd

i am new to akc i wanted to know about the micrcochipping..

..some people like cross breeds some do not..i do it because i enjoy
i have never had a problem with selling them..i literally have a litter of yorkipoms now 3 and 4 yorkies..the yorkiepoms were are sold before they were born...2 to a lady that got one before and i had to CHOOSE btw 2 other families for the 3rd one... yet i still have yorkies available.
i look at it this way..if they didnt sell i wouldnt do it...doesnt really matter..the female is getting fixed and i have no more of her line..i thought about breeding one of her boys to another female but i havent decided that..i would like to continue her line because it has been so popular for me.

i had CKC to start with..if i didnt care would i have not moved on to AKC??? i am not against mixing but doest make me not care about the breed but i view it differently. im into pets..not show dogs..i dont believe that they should only be bred for shows..there are many people out there that want yorkies and i dont think its right to limit them because someone else thinks they shouldnt because they have kids or dont fit their questionaire or cant afford 3000.00 for a show quality yorkie...my reasons are different then the show breeders


there are others that agree with me but dont feel comfortable to post it
And so what is the difference between a PET and a SHOW quality YOrkie? Ummm? What should it be? Very Little in my view. Both parents health tested, both parents very very good representatives of the breed and champions.
There is no excuse for poorly bred dogs, that are fosted off on the unsuspecting public, under the guise that they are JUST PETS.

There is no such thing as just a PET. Pets are deserving of the best of breeding practices, the best of health testing and genetic screening. The very best chance to live a happy and healthy life.
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this is absurd

i am new to akc i wanted to know about the micrcochipping..

..some people like cross breeds some do not..i do it because i enjoy
i have never had a problem with selling them..i literally have a litter of yorkipoms now 3 and 4 yorkies..the yorkiepoms were are sold before they were born...2 to a lady that got one before and i had to CHOOSE btw 2 other families for the 3rd one... yet i still have yorkies available.
i look at it this way..if they didnt sell i wouldnt do it...doesnt really matter..the female is getting fixed and i have no more of her line..i thought about breeding one of her boys to another female but i havent decided that..i would like to continue her line because it has been so popular for me.

i had CKC to start with..if i didnt care would i have not moved on to AKC??? i am not against mixing but doest make me not care about the breed but i view it differently. im into pets..not show dogs..i dont believe that they should only be bred for shows..there are many people out there that want yorkies and i dont think its right to limit them because someone else thinks they shouldnt because they have kids or dont fit their questionaire or cant afford 3000.00 for a show quality yorkie...my reasons are different then the show breeders


there are others that agree with me but dont feel comfortable to post it
It's clear to me that you do not understand why breeders show, breeders don't breed to show, but they show to gain approval of their breeding stock, and by approval I mean, they need to know if their dogs are a good representative of the breed. If breeders are breeding poor representatives of the breed, we will lose the look and attitude of the Yorkshire terrier, as we know it. Your main goal is to sell dogs, and at one time this wasn't such a bad thing, but right now we have more pets than homes for them. Mixed breeds are a problem because no one can predict what the offspring will look like and how they will behave and many mixed breeds end up in the pound because people are disappointed with the looks of the adult. Also, what makes you think that people are spending $3,000 for pet yorkies? Are you talking about breeding dogs or pets? Why would you be able to breed a mixed breed cheaper than a purebred, vet costs are the same.
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And so what is the difference between a PET and a SHOW quality YOrkie? Ummm? What should it be? Very Little in my view. Both parents health tested, both parents very very good representatives of the breed and champions.
There is no excuse for poorly bred dogs, that are fosted off on the unsuspecting public, under the guise that they are JUST PETS.

There is no such thing as just a PET. Pets are deserving of the best of breeding practices, the best of health testing and genetic screening. The very best chance to live a happy and healthy life.
Amen Gail.
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It's clear to me that you do not understand why breeders show, breeders don't breed to show, but they show to gain approval of their breeding stock, and by approval I mean, they need to know if their dogs are a good representative of the breed. If breeders are breeding poor representatives of the breed, we will lose the look and attitude of the Yorkshire terrier, as we know it. Your main goal is to sell dogs, and at one time this wasn't such a bad thing, but right now we have more pets than homes for them. Mixed breeds are a problem because no one can predict what the offspring will look like and how they will behave and many mixed breeds end up in the pound because people are disappointed with the looks of the adult. Also, what makes you think that people are spending $3,000 for pet yorkies? Are you talking about breeding dogs or pets? Why would you be able to breed a mixed breed cheaper than a purebred, vet costs are the same.
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It's clear to me that you do not understand why breeders show, breeders don't breed to show, but they show to gain approval of their breeding stock, and by approval I mean, they need to know if their dogs are a good representative of the breed. If breeders are breeding poor representatives of the breed, we will lose the look and attitude of the Yorkshire terrier, as we know it. Your main goal is to sell dogs, and at one time this wasn't such a bad thing, but right now we have more pets than homes for them. Mixed breeds are a problem because no one can predict what the offspring will look like and how they will behave and many mixed breeds end up in the pound because people are disappointed with the looks of the adult. Also, what makes you think that people are spending $3,000 for pet yorkies? Are you talking about breeding dogs or pets? Why would you be able to breed a mixed breed cheaper than a purebred, vet costs are the same.

didnt say anything on the vet cost

its not that i dont get why they do what they do..i choose not to go that route..its not something i want to do..and there more people out there less interested in the showing aspect then just wanting a pet.

i do know what my mixes will looking like..always the same features, same hair, some times there is a vary in color...its either golden, blonde or the yorkie black n gold..all have been 3-5lbs full grown, great temperaments
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this is absurd

i am new to akc i wanted to know about the micrcochipping..

..some people like cross breeds some do not..i do it because i enjoy
i have never had a problem with selling them..i literally have a litter of yorkipoms now 3 and 4 yorkies..the yorkiepoms were are sold before they were born...2 to a lady that got one before and i had to CHOOSE btw 2 other families for the 3rd one... yet i still have yorkies available.
i look at it this way..if they didnt sell i wouldnt do it...doesnt really matter..the female is getting fixed and i have no more of her line..i thought about breeding one of her boys to another female but i havent decided that..i would like to continue her line because it has been so popular for me.

i had CKC to start with..if i didnt care would i have not moved on to AKC??? i am not against mixing but doest make me not care about the breed but i view it differently. im into pets..not show dogs..i dont believe that they should only be bred for shows..there are many people out there that want yorkies and i dont think its right to limit them because someone else thinks they shouldnt because they have kids or dont fit their questionaire or cant afford 3000.00 for a show quality yorkie...my reasons are different then the show breeders


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I usually try to stay out of breeding threads because I am not a breeder and I have no intentions on becoming one. I do, however, take issue with some of your statements. And I feel that I can't be the only one offended by these statements. It seems to me that your sole purpose of breeding is to make a profit. You like breeding YorkiePoms because they sell. Period. It seems like you are only concerned with profit.

Have you considered that people looking for a pet could go other avenues? There are mixed breeds (and purebreds too) overcrowding every shelter and rescue in the U.S. Millions and millions are euthanized every year. I know that my local rescue has at least 4 Yorkie mixes right now that are looking for homes. That isn't even considering all of the breed-specific rescues around. You are catering to the demand for hybrid "designer" dogs with cutesy little names that sell for a high price. That is my personal issue with purposeful, profit-seeking cross-breeding.

You have stated that your purpose is breeding pets. Plenty of reputable breeders breed pet-quality Yorkies. They go to pet homes (and hopefully on a spay/neuter contract). Not every reputable breeder charges outrageous prices for their Yorkies. In fact, I'm sure there are reputable AKC breeders out there whose prices are comparable to yours.
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Breeding is something I do not enjoy; although when I do it, it's with a great deal of planning. Checking pedigrees, knowing what I'd like to correct and understanding how to correct it. I do not take it lightly, each time I breed, I do so with nerves, apprehension, and concern for my dam and her puppies. When I observe my girls experierncing her first hard contraction I always break out in tears. After all they are living breathing little creatures who trust us implicitly.....and I hold their little lives in my hands.
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i give respect to everyone until i feel it is no longer earned by me...

i have always been respectful on this site i have been here a very long time...but it seems when i start spending time on it..i am displeased ...it was better in 2006 then it is now..

i do things different, everyone does, it doesnt make me less then, or a bad breeder, or undeserving of respect

the marjority of all of this started because i greeted someone in my friendly way..yet has turned it all around about my breeding practice which i typically do not share on here..YT is not friendly of breeders who do not show and breed to the highest of high standard or cross breeding (there are alot of closet breeders on yt =) because of this attitudee)... i agree i was peeved and i did want to prove a point that why i DID the research and called the AKC companies...so that I KNOW what is correct
Enjoying breeding is just a lame excuse for making a buck off the back of your dogs. It is inexcusable IMO to even try to raise yourself to the level of the show breeders on this forum. Anyone that mixes breeds when the shelters are over run with poorly breed dogs dying every day for the sole purpose of creative puppies for sale is just low. There is no accountability for all of the dogs that are dying every day. Have you ever visited your local shelter? Seen all of the scared innocent faces pleading to save their lives? Have you held in your arm a sick dog who is so weak from lack of proper care that you didn't think he would make it through the night? Do you know what it is like to pick up your dog and feel the LP popping in their legs? Have you donated your time or money to a rescue to help with the care of irresponsible breeders? Have you cried because you knew a dog would die because there was no room for him? That is what goes on daily in shelters and rescues all over this country. As I am sitting here I see all of the pleas for help popping up from Facebook contacts. This dog is in danger, this one has been hit by a car, this one had puppies and is dying. It becomes overwhelming. Then I come here and see lame arguments about why someone wants to breed a Porkie.

As for the "closet" breeders they should stay in their closets. Hopefully, someone will prop a great big chair under the doorknob and they can stay there forever. Mixing and breeding substandard dogs adds to the crisis in this country.

I think its a great idea that you chip each and every one of your puppies so if they end up in a kill shelter the local rescue will to be further overrun with cast off from irresponsible breeding practices. They can call you and you can step up and bring that dog back to health.


Breeding should be a privilege and so many feel it's their right. It's a lifelong (for the dogs) decision that should be taken very seriously.

You should be part of the solution and not part of the problem.
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