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ladyjane · 10-18-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by manolos mom

Whats this....yourpup.com Estimated Worth $2598.8 USD by websiteoutlook

There are a lot of those sites on the internet. They estimate the value of a website. Means nothing

Nancy1999 · 10-18-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

There are a lot of those sites on the internet. They estimate the value of a website. Means nothing

I think it does tell a little about how much the site has been hit, and therefore the "value" of the name.

dianaww · 10-18-2009, 01:25 PM

I can still only find Jeffs for sale, has anyone found a link to Steves house for sale.

Blessed · 10-18-2009, 02:10 PM

Okay, I have a really dumb question... If ALL the pups (I don't want to look) look sick, why wouldn't a rescue, ASPC or Animal Control step in? I mean, that's what they do right?

dianaww · 10-18-2009, 02:12 PM

I wondered that too, how these puppy mills get away with it, but then again we have them here in the UK, we call them puppy farms, and I don't know why they aren't all closed down either. A very good question.

Nancy1999 · 10-18-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed

Okay, I have a really dumb question... If ALL the pups (I don't want to look) look sick, why wouldn't a rescue, ASPC or Animal Control step in? I mean, that's what they do right?

No, I don't think you can take away someone's dogs because they look sick, you have to prove that they are breaking state laws, and this isn't easy. We value freedom so much in the US, and you have to have some sort of proof of something before you can even get a search warrant. Not only that, many states have such lax laws that it's fairly easy to pass, that's why it's important to pass stricter laws regarding kennel conditions, and puppy lemon laws.

livingdustmops · 10-18-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed

Okay, I have a really dumb question... If ALL the pups (I don't want to look) look sick, why wouldn't a rescue, ASPC or Animal Control step in? I mean, that's what they do right?

Dogs are personal property and each state has laws. If the Dane brothers are following the laws then they are not doing anything illegal to take away the dogs. In many states you would be shocked at how sick animals can look and how they are kept and no one can step in. Go look at the Prisoners of Greed website and little dogs that are kept in wirecages and freeze to death in these cages..the laws protect the breeders. In many states people have killed animals and they still get their dogs back.

None of the organizations can step in an take away these dogs.

THE LAWS NEED TO BE CHANGED!!!!

Blessed · 10-18-2009, 02:37 PM

Oh my goodness... that is terrible! See, I'm so naive that I believe it should happen like on animal cops, if the pups look sick or abused they confront the owners and give them a chance to get the medical attention necessary and if they don't do what's right, they take um! As I type this that song is playing in my head "Bad Boys Bad Boys, whacha gonna do when they come for you, Bad Boys...lol
Okay, I'm all about getting the laws changed... Where do we go from here?

dianaww · 10-18-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed

Oh my goodness... that is terrible! See, I'm so naive that I believe it should happen like on animal cops, if the pups look sick or abused they confront the owners and give them a chance to get the medical attention necessary and if they don't do what's right, they take um! As I type this that song is playing in my head "Bad Boys Bad Boys, whacha gonna do when they come for you, Bad Boys...lol
Okay, I'm all about getting the laws changed... Where do we go from here?

I was naive, about the gasing part of it. It is beyond words how bad that is.

Blessed · 10-18-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dianaww

I was naive, about the gasing???? part of it. It is beyond words how bad that is.

Good Lord!!!

Gennies · 10-18-2009, 02:47 PM

I'm happy to hear that another horrible puppy mill is going down! Just wish the B#$@! would catch a few felony charges too. I can't stand a puppy miller or a BYB! It angers me so much that our county allows animals to be abused and they just look the other way.

Incase your following this thread and want to stop the gas chambers. YorkieShadow has kindly posted a thread with a petition that needs your signature to help ban these horror traps in our county! Please, speak out and add your signature!!! Thank you YorkieShadow!!!

livingdustmops · 10-18-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed

Oh my goodness... that is terrible! See, I'm so naive that I believe it should happen like on animal cops, if the pups look sick or abused they confront the owners and give them a chance to get the medical attention necessary and if they don't do what's right, they take um! As I type this that song is playing in my head "Bad Boys Bad Boys, whacha gonna do when they come for you, Bad Boys...lol
Okay, I'm all about getting the laws changed... Where do we go from here?

Most laws can only be changed state by state...so first you have to understand your state laws. You might have to look up USDA and what the requirements are. Then begins the letter writing campaign to your congressman/senators. You might start searching the internet for groups in Oklahoma to see if they have already started campaigns. You can also join animal advocate organizations who lobby against some of the humane treatment..some organizations a large majority of people are against (Peta) and the Humane Society but you have to decide what you believe in. Best Friends is another organization that helps along with the Doris Day Foundation, Prisoners of Greed, and many, many others.

Nancy1999 · 10-18-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Blessed

Oh my goodness... that is terrible! See, I'm so naive that I believe it should happen like on animal cops, if the pups look sick or abused they confront the owners and give them a chance to get the medical attention necessary and if they don't do what's right, they take um! As I type this that song is playing in my head "Bad Boys Bad Boys, whacha gonna do when they come for you, Bad Boys...lol
Okay, I'm all about getting the laws changed... Where do we go from here?

Join YAP, it's a club here at Yorkietalk, Yorkies against Puppymills, and we try to inform members when certain laws are being passed that might effect your state. The Oprah show encouraged Pennsylvania to pass some good legislation that helped raise kennel conditions, and some of the same ideas are being considered in many other states. The bad news is that the commercial breeders lobby is very big, and they pass a lot of propaganda and scare tactics that have small and good breeders running scared, so they join in with commercial breeders in fighting the legislation. Even though the law will be very clear in saying things like this only applies to those breeders who have over 10 litters a year, small breeders are still scared and they think they will have to kennel all their dogs or abide by other regulations. It's almost impossible to fight with these lobbyists as they target small breeders and know how to influence them. On the other hand, as pet lovers we should be aware that there are groups that want to do away with all breeding and don't differentiate between a small hobby breeder or a commercial breeder, so the pet lover has to know which laws are good and which are dangerous. Unfortunately, the commercial pet lobby argues better than I do.

To join Yap, just click on the link in my signature, and we'll know where to find you!

jenn1381 · 10-18-2009, 03:01 PM

It breaks my heart to know that my Oliver spent at least the first year of his life in a place just like this. He was in someone's garage, there were cages up the ceiling.

I don't know when his birthday is, but we will forever celebrate March 28th as his rebirth - the day he came home with me!

Being a rescue owner, I'd sure like to know how ALL of the rescues can be listed as "loves kids and all other animals." Anyone with any experience with rescues knows that they pretty much always have some issues with people and animals. Sometimes you get lucky. Ollie LOVES animals, but isn't a big fan of people. Mostly men, but even a lot of women he tends to shy away from.

I just don't understand how someone could DO this sort of thing to animals... From the sounds of it they aren't shutting down, just moving. I really hope they are shut down one day soon and that all those poor babies are given a chance at LIFE. As I look at my baby boy who is currently napping by the fireplace my heart breaks with the knowledge the millions of others are currently shivering in cages...

livingdustmops · 10-18-2009, 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=jenn1381;2844692]It breaks my heart to know that my Oliver spent at least the first year of his life in a place just like this. He was in someone's garage, there were cages up the ceiling.

I don't know when his birthday is, but we will forever celebrate March 28th as his rebirth - the day he came home with me!

Being a rescue owner, I'd sure like to know how ALL of the rescues can be listed as "loves kids and all other animals." Anyone with any experience with rescues knows that they pretty much always have some issues with people and animals. Sometimes you get lucky. Ollie LOVES animals, but isn't a big fan of people. Mostly men, but even a lot of women he tends to shy away from.

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Good for you....

Rarely have I seen a Yorkie rescue say "loves kids" and in fact it is a sore subject on YT. Any of us that have been involved with rescue will not place them with children under 10 years of age and when you look at petfinder I almost never see they will adopt to a home with children. It used to be on the AKC website that Yorkies are not the perfect family dog. Most rescues might consider a child but only for a larger Yorkie.

Many of the rescues I got in were from private homes and were not beaten etc but were given up because they could not be potty trained and because the family was to busy for them.

I have had some come from breeders that were scared to death of humans.

10-18-2009, 01:25 PM	#63
dianaww YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 483	I can still only find Jeffs for sale, has anyone found a link to Steves house for sale. __________________ Teddy Born Aug 06 Max (Mar 95 - Sept 06) Levi (Mar 97 - Aug 09)

10-18-2009, 02:10 PM	#64
Blessed Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 136	Okay, I have a really dumb question... If ALL the pups (I don't want to look) look sick, why wouldn't a rescue, ASPC or Animal Control step in? I mean, that's what they do right? __________________ Happy Thanksgiving Cathleen, Shy'la & GiGi

10-18-2009, 02:12 PM	#65
dianaww YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK Posts: 483	I wondered that too, how these puppy mills get away with it, but then again we have them here in the UK, we call them puppy farms, and I don't know why they aren't all closed down either. A very good question. __________________ Teddy Born Aug 06 Max (Mar 95 - Sept 06) Levi (Mar 97 - Aug 09)

10-18-2009, 02:37 PM	#68
Blessed Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 136	Oh my goodness... that is terrible! See, I'm so naive that I believe it should happen like on animal cops, if the pups look sick or abused they confront the owners and give them a chance to get the medical attention necessary and if they don't do what's right, they take um! As I type this that song is playing in my head "Bad Boys Bad Boys, whacha gonna do when they come for you, Bad Boys...lol Okay, I'm all about getting the laws changed... Where do we go from here? __________________ Happy Thanksgiving Cathleen, Shy'la & GiGi

10-18-2009, 02:47 PM	#71
Gennies Donating YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,865	I'm happy to hear that another horrible puppy mill is going down! Just wish the B#$@! would catch a few felony charges too. I can't stand a puppy miller or a BYB! It angers me so much that our county allows animals to be abused and they just look the other way. Incase your following this thread and want to stop the gas chambers. YorkieShadow has kindly posted a thread with a petition that needs your signature to help ban these horror traps in our county! Please, speak out and add your signature!!! Thank you YorkieShadow!!! __________________ Gennie, mommy to my two loves: Bambi & Bijou

10-18-2009, 03:01 PM	#74
jenn1381 YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 427	It breaks my heart to know that my Oliver spent at least the first year of his life in a place just like this. He was in someone's garage, there were cages up the ceiling. I don't know when his birthday is, but we will forever celebrate March 28th as his rebirth - the day he came home with me! Being a rescue owner, I'd sure like to know how ALL of the rescues can be listed as "loves kids and all other animals." Anyone with any experience with rescues knows that they pretty much always have some issues with people and animals. Sometimes you get lucky. Ollie LOVES animals, but isn't a big fan of people. Mostly men, but even a lot of women he tends to shy away from. I just don't understand how someone could DO this sort of thing to animals... From the sounds of it they aren't shutting down, just moving. I really hope they are shut down one day soon and that all those poor babies are given a chance at LIFE. As I look at my baby boy who is currently napping by the fireplace my heart breaks with the knowledge the millions of others are currently shivering in cages... __________________ Oliver & Mya are my

10-18-2009, 03:23 PM	#75
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	[QUOTE=jenn1381;2844692]It breaks my heart to know that my Oliver spent at least the first year of his life in a place just like this. He was in someone's garage, there were cages up the ceiling. I don't know when his birthday is, but we will forever celebrate March 28th as his rebirth - the day he came home with me! Being a rescue owner, I'd sure like to know how ALL of the rescues can be listed as "loves kids and all other animals." Anyone with any experience with rescues knows that they pretty much always have some issues with people and animals. Sometimes you get lucky. Ollie LOVES animals, but isn't a big fan of people. Mostly men, but even a lot of women he tends to shy away from. QUOTE] Good for you.... Rarely have I seen a Yorkie rescue say "loves kids" and in fact it is a sore subject on YT. Any of us that have been involved with rescue will not place them with children under 10 years of age and when you look at petfinder I almost never see they will adopt to a home with children. It used to be on the AKC website that Yorkies are not the perfect family dog. Most rescues might consider a child but only for a larger Yorkie. Many of the rescues I got in were from private homes and were not beaten etc but were given up because they could not be potty trained and because the family was to busy for them. I have had some come from breeders that were scared to death of humans. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!