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Old 07-29-2009, 09:40 AM   #1
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Teeth Maybe next weekend~Update on Sadie's Arrival

Well the breeder just called and he'd like to wait one more week and see how things go with our puppy before letting her come to us.

If you know the situation, you are probably rejoicing because this will give her more time with her mom and littermates.

I am pretty glad as well, because i know that it is important for her to have all the time with them she can.

So it's looking like my girl will come home to us MAYBE on the 7th of August, rather than this weekend. We'll just have to wait and see.

Marvin just didn't feel comfortable this week and I am more than okay with that, i want her to be a little older as well. Despite all the arguing and upsetting things on the previous threads, i was secretly hoping he'd call and tell us he was waiting another week or two, and that's what happened.

My mind is clear that he's responsible and he's doing what is best for the puppies, if he's not feeling comfortable with them leaving, he keeps them until he knows that they are truly doing fine and ready to go.

So anyways, another week to wait, but it's totally worth the wait, both because i'll wait forever for Sadie and also because she'll get more bonding time with mom.

Thanks for checking in and have a great day.
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Well the breeder just called and he'd like to wait one more week and see how things go with our puppy before letting her come to us.

If you know the situation, you are probably rejoicing because this will give her more time with her mom and littermates.

I am pretty glad as well, because i know that it is important for her to have all the time with them she can.

So it's looking like my girl will come home to us MAYBE on the 7th of August, rather than this weekend. We'll just have to wait and see.

Marvin just didn't feel comfortable this week and I am more than okay with that, i want her to be a little older as well. Despite all the arguing and upsetting things on the previous threads, i was secretly hoping he'd call and tell us he was waiting another week or two, and that's what happened.

My mind is clear that he's responsible and he's doing what is best for the puppies, if he's not feeling comfortable with them leaving, he keeps them until he knows that they are truly doing fine and ready to go.

So anyways, another week to wait, but it's totally worth the wait, both because i'll wait forever for Sadie and also because she'll get more bonding time with mom.

Thanks for checking in and have a great day.
Well thats great news, at least she will be able to grow a bit more, do you know what her weight is currently? Maybe hes waiting for her to gain some more weight!

Also just to add, it sounds like he has decided to let mom stay with the pups longer? That is great that he changed his mind about taking her away from them at six weeks!
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This really is good news. I'm glad you're ok with it.
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Well thats great news, at least she will be able to grow a bit more, do you know what her weight is currently? Maybe hes waiting for her to gain some more weight!

Also just to add, it sounds like he has decided to let mom stay with the pups longer? That is great that he changed his mind about taking her away from them at six weeks!

yea i think he's taking her out for a half day during the daytime and leaving her in there all night, he plays with them all day so they don't get lonely and is feeding them ground up pup food now, he's working on em, but yea i'm truly glad and relieved that he's waiting a little bit longer, yay for progress
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Hi, I went back and read the two threads on the place Sadie is from.

I want to urge you again to reconsider. The website and the registry make it clear that this is at the very best a major BYB operation. It is very common for scammers to offer to meet you away from their homes. They say it is for your convenience, or so the dog can meet you on "neutral" territory, but it is really so that you don't see the conditions the dogs are raised in.

As has been stated repeatedly, you are opening yourself up to a world of heartache if it turns out that this puppy is sick. Think about how attached you are to her already, and she doesn't even live with you yet. There is zero chance that you will return her in six months, no matter what her condition is, and the breeder is counting on that.

Against all the red flags on the website and this dog's registration and the fact that you haven't seen the dog's home, you are stacking against it that this man seems very nice. Lots of people can be SUPER nice when they are selling you something. It doesn't mean he is honest.

Please also consider that by buying this puppy, you will almost certainly be perpetuating the cycle of misery of abused dogs forced to breed unhealthy puppies, many of whom will end up euthanized in shelters because unethical breeders don't care about pet overpopulation.

A lot of us have puppy mill dogs - I have one - but most of us did not know what we do now about puppy mills and bad breeding practices. You have this information now. Please use it to make the right choice, both for you and for all dogs, who have no one to speak for them.

By the way, in MO, I don't think you would need to spend $1K to get a well-bred puppy, $700 would probably be enough. A rescue or an older dog is also an excellent option. Please keep in mind how much money you are going to need for vet costs EVEN IF the pup is healthy - several hundred in the first year, easily.
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Also, regarding the age thing - it's my understanding that in the UK, the KC says 7-8 weeks is okay, though again for a small breed like yorkies, I can understand that 12 weeks might be better. So it's not the age that concerns me, it is everything else, including the fact that a YT member called this breeder and basically got confirmation that the breeder does not have his puppies interests at heart. How much can he love his dogs with that many different breeds, all having puppies at the same time? You can't love forty puppies at once.
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Hi, I went back and read the two threads on the place Sadie is from.

I want to urge you again to reconsider. The website and the registry make it clear that this is at the very best a major BYB operation. It is very common for scammers to offer to meet you away from their homes. They say it is for your convenience, or so the dog can meet you on "neutral" territory, but it is really so that you don't see the conditions the dogs are raised in.

As has been stated repeatedly, you are opening yourself up to a world of heartache if it turns out that this puppy is sick. Think about how attached you are to her already, and she doesn't even live with you yet. There is zero chance that you will return her in six months, no matter what her condition is, and the breeder is counting on that.

Against all the red flags on the website and this dog's registration and the fact that you haven't seen the dog's home, you are stacking against it that this man seems very nice. Lots of people can be SUPER nice when they are selling you something. It doesn't mean he is honest.

Please also consider that by buying this puppy, you will almost certainly be perpetuating the cycle of misery of abused dogs forced to breed unhealthy puppies, many of whom will end up euthanized in shelters because unethical breeders don't care about pet overpopulation.

A lot of us have puppy mill dogs - I have one - but most of us did not know what we do now about puppy mills and bad breeding practices. You have this information now. Please use it to make the right choice, both for you and for all dogs, who have no one to speak for them.

By the way, in MO, I don't think you would need to spend $1K to get a well-bred puppy, $700 would probably be enough. A rescue or an older dog is also an excellent option. Please keep in mind how much money you are going to need for vet costs EVEN IF the pup is healthy - several hundred in the first year, easily.
I know where your coming from on this Quick Silver but isn't it best that she gets her rather than someone with no knowledge of Yt?
At the end of the day these cute pups are going to be sold to someone and by going by Rachels thread she is aware of the consequences.
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Are you aware that she is too young to be vaccinated? Puppies get maternal antibodies from nursing that block the first vaccines if they are given too soon after weaning. At six weeks old, she only has a 25% chance that a vaccination would have any effect. The first vaccination shouldn't be given before about nine weeks when the ability to respond rises to about 40%.

Breeders who sell puppies too young will just go ahead and vaccinate anyway just to say the puppy has had "shots". Not only does this leave the puppy totally unprotected from deadly puppy diseases, it means she will need an extra set of vaccinations as the final set should be given between 16-18 weeks for full immunity. Over vaccinating can cause all sorts of health problems, both short and long term.

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Are you aware that she is too young to be vaccinated? Puppies get maternal antibodies from nursing that block the first vaccines if they are given too soon after weaning. At six weeks old, she only has a 25% chance that a vaccination would have any effect. The first vaccination shouldn't be given before about nine weeks when the ability to respond rises to about 40%.

Breeders who sell puppies too young will just go ahead and vaccinate anyway just to say the puppy has had "shots". Not only does this leave the puppy totally unprotected from deadly puppy diseases, it means she will need an extra set of vaccinations as the final set should be given between 16-18 weeks for full immunity. Over vaccinating can cause all sorts of health problems, both short and long term.

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good to know! thanks
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I know where your coming from on this Quick Silver but isn't it best that she gets her rather than someone with no knowledge of Yt?
At the end of the day these cute pups are going to be sold to someone and by going by Rachels thread she is aware of the consequences.
I also see where YOU are coming from , but no, I do not think ANYONE should buy from this breeder, PARTICULARLY if they are paying a yorkie-type price. Doing this perpetuates the cycle of misery. You are not just potentially hurting yourself by getting a sick dog, you are hurting the parents, who are almost certainly suffering, and you are hurting all the other future dogs that will be used in this operation's breeding program. The only way these people will stop is if they **stop getting money**.
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Given the registry and the fact they acknowledge mixing breeds...there is no way for you to definitely know she's a purebreed yorkshire terrier.
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Wink do we have to go through this again??

i've heard it all before, and i'm sure this isn't the end of it, but if you have read my previous posts, you already know that i've made up my mind and am very happy with my choices.

please no more posting about puppy mills, if i hear that word again i could puke, i'm just tired of it all people, i know who my breeder is, and i know everything's clean and taken care of, i'm comfortable with the situation and that's all that should matter.

be happy that i'm getting a yorkie period and please enough with rehashing this!!

i'd like to be able to move on from here and learn about taking care of a yorkie instead of ALWAYS having to go back to the subject of where my baby came from would that be alright with you guys? please!!???

Thanks for the understanding and cooperation! Let's be adults here and get over this and move on can we?

She's going to be almost 8 weeks old when i get here, still young, but better than before, so let's look at the bright side and let go of the negative stuff, no more worries, no more negative posts, happy thought people, happy, loving, and encouraging thoughts!!

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Given the registry and the fact they acknowledge mixing breeds...there is no way for you to definitely know she's a purebreed yorkshire terrier.
i've been thinking this the whole time. and since they're not AKC registered the "breeder" can just do what he likes with the papers so they will say the pup is a purebreed. I too think its unwise for you to purchase a pup from this man but haven't said anything because you obviously don't care. even though you've asked many times for opinions on the matter you really don't care what anyone else has to say. your gonna do what you want because your excited to get a puppy. I just hope she's healthy...but be prepared because she probably isn't going to be.

In all the pictures she looks really really small. how much does she weigh now?
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what makes you honestly think that just because my dog is not AKC (snob registered) and she's not 1000 or more that she's going to automatically get sick and die??

where the heck did you get that information from, nowhere on earth does it say that you have to have an AKC dog to have a healthy dog.

My goodness people now you're just getting ridiculous, and showing yourselves for who you really are. It's like no matter what if the breeder is not AKC and if the breeder is not up to your ridiculous show quality (uppity snobbish) standards you instantly scream puppy mill, well that's just not even worth talking to you over.
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