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07-29-2009, 12:37 PM | #16 | |
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07-29-2009, 12:38 PM | #17 | |
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actually i've said several times i DON'T WANT any opinions on the matter anymore, but some of you can't read and figure that out!! | |
07-29-2009, 12:40 PM | #18 |
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| Thanks, my goodness thanks, i could really use one, i'm going to have heart failure or a stroke before i can even worry about my dog because i can't seem to say anything on here without someone rehashing the old thread and bringing the crap back up again....my goodness, i just want to be left alone when it comes to that topic, forget it, let it go, and move on, i want to learn to take care of Sadie, not get re lectured 400,000 times about her background info. |
07-29-2009, 12:45 PM | #19 |
and Bernie's mom too!" Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pennsylvania
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| Rachel, No one here is being a snob. There is a lot of background information here and a tremendous wealth of knowledge that they are trying to share with you. His website is full of red flags. I agree that no one should buy from this person, once they have the facts, and I understand that you are going to anyway. Please understand, that many here work VERY hard to have these kind of operations put out of business. No one is saying your pup will def. be sick, but simply by buying the pup you keep this kennel in operation. I've grown to have a great deal of respect for some of the people who are posting on your threads. Many of them have proven to have a wealth of knowledge. You've already seen that we will help answer your questions about raising Sadie, in your threads about that you've gotten lots of advice. The only difference, is that the advice you are getting here is advice you don't want. What if everyone knew the food you were choosing was horrible, but then you talked about the food you use. Would you expect them not to speak up? This isn't about being a snob. Really, it isn't. It's sad that this isn't getting across. edited: This time I'm really done, you won't hear from me on it again.
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07-29-2009, 12:47 PM | #20 | |
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HOWEVER, puppy mills are a disgusting and terrible thing and I would NEVER purchase a puppy from a pet store or from someone that sells multiple breeds and not allowing you to come into their house like you're purchasing from. It's one thing if you buy a dog from a pet store not knowing... many people do and find out the hard way about mills. But you are on this website now, you do not have a puppy yet and you are getting a wealth of information, yet you still refuse to listen. So that's fine! Your pup will most likely be perfectly healthy, may not, may be. But bottom line is you contribued to this: (Please watch this show!) And on that note, I wish you and your puppy nothing but total happiness. But just thought I'd give you another perspective since I am very much like you on the AKC, etc. I'm not one of those "snobs" (and neither are 99% of the people on this site, even if you think they are...) and I'm more of an old fashioned dog owner in a way... but puppy mills are one thing I stand strong on. Please watch the YouTube video I posted.
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07-29-2009, 12:47 PM | #21 | |
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And i love how you call AKC a snob registry... maybe you need to do some more research on your registries... No one is saying that all AKC dogs are healthy and You are offending many breeders here by calling show breeders snobs. The show breeders that are on this forum are extremely helpful and knowledgable and not snobish at all.
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07-29-2009, 12:49 PM | #22 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | My dog is not AKC registered either. I bought him as an adult from someone who bought him from a pet store, so for all I know he is a mix. He is an adorable dog and I love him with all my heart, but he is a million miles from show quality. I am not posting out of malice. I am pushing the point again, even though I know you are tired of it, because it is so important, and I can't quite believe that someone with the information you have now would still be okay getting this dog. The registry matters not because your dog has to be "good enough", it matters because it is a registry commonly used by unscrupulous breeders. Please consider the health of your lifelong companion, and the welfare of dogs in general.
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07-29-2009, 12:52 PM | #23 | |
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07-29-2009, 12:59 PM | #24 |
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| No one here is being a snob. You keep posting thread's, then you get upset when memeber's respond's back. Why is that? They only trying too help you out here. And I also notice that you are a memeber on another yorkie forum as well............Why do you keep posting thread's on the other forum, saying not so nice thing's about yorkietalk forum? Thats why I say this to you, whats really going on here?
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07-29-2009, 01:10 PM | #25 |
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| to be completely honest with you, i'm not into puppy mills either, it's sad and sickening and if i truely believed this guy to be an owner of one don't you think i'd take my money elsewhere, he doesn't refuse anyone access to his home, i have no flippin' clue who started that rumor because i've not one time said that i couldn't go look at his facility if i wanted to, i just choose not to drive over four hours to do so, i am taking a gamble that he is trustworthy and fine with that, but had i felt i needed to drive and check him out i totally could and would be way more than welcome. I've heard Marvin say they've had people drive from California to pick out a pup from them and they've even let the person stay in their home overnight after they made the trip. i'm really really really really 1000 times sure that this is not a puppy mill operation, or i PROMISE you all i wouldn't buy there. i am not a heartless person that wants to support a puppy mill, and i am not ignorant and stupid, i just know my own judgment has never led me astray so far in 21 years, not only that but my husband agrees with me that we both feel good about this person. please please, let it go, i'm not inhumane and i'm not trying to ignore your concerns and advice, but i'm not getting my pup from a puppy mill, and you all won't seem to understand that and leave it alone. |
07-29-2009, 01:13 PM | #26 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO
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| i'm feeling attacked, i can't post a single thing on here that seems to stay on track or on topic, every single time i post anything at all, it ALWAYS get attacked and leads back to the stupid puppy mill thing. why can't you all just let it go? i just want to be left alone. forget it, i'm done, i'm not talking on YT anymore, you have lost someone who could have been a great friend and a really great source of learning and information. hope you all are happy, i give up on this website |
07-29-2009, 01:18 PM | #27 |
YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA
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| I hope your new yorkie puppy is healthy. If not, your going to be in for a whole lot of pain and heartache , because i know how much you love this baby already. Everyone on YT was only trying to help you, however each time you chose to become highly defensive at the possibilty of your pup not coming from a reputable breeder .Sometimes , people need need to learn the hard way> (sigh) AKC , my yorkie female is pure bred , she does not have papers, my shih tzu puppy is AKC and came with papers, the difference is I can see right there her breeding background, the little puppy. It is NOT snobby at all, where in the world did that come from ? As I read your posts where you are getting your precious puppy from , I do need to comment, this sounds like a huge breeding operation, a enormous for profit , dare I say it, (puppy mill) those people will say anything to their customers to sell a puppy. I am not trying to be rude or insensitive towards you. The picture of your little yorkie is very cute, You have been fore warned by many YT'ers , who really know about this type of stuff, and are scared for you . They are not trying to bash you. Or make you angry. Best wishes to you. Hope your puppy is going to be one of the few lucky ones, who are not going to be sick when you bring her home.
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07-29-2009, 01:19 PM | #28 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | I am sure you are a caring person, so as aggravating as it may be, please think about what we are saying here. This is not just coming from one or two members, or people with show dogs, or from animal activists. There are so many reasons not to go with this breeder. I am not sure he qualifies as a puppy mill -- I think he is a large scale BYB, which still perpetuates pet overpopulation and poor animal welfare. I don't understand how you can be so certain he is not a BYB simply because you have talked to him. Surely you know there are excellent con men out there. How do you account for the other things people are saying here: the shady registry, the calls another YT member made, the willingness to release puppies way too early, the fact that the mother is kennelled, the red flags on the website, the shaky health guarantee? Also: if you are lucky, you will have this dog for twenty years. Isn't that worth an eight hour drive to check the conditions she lives in? Have you considered that there may even be better breeders who live closer to you? I am appealing to your heart here, and it is genuinely done out of concern. I volunteer at an animal shelter, and I have to tell you, it is so important to breed responsibly, and to support responsible breeding.
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07-29-2009, 01:20 PM | #29 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | Also, I understand that you feel attacked and frustrated, and I would not be posting if I did not think this was incredibly important. I generally do not go out of my way to offend new members.
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07-29-2009, 01:47 PM | #30 | |
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