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Old 04-22-2009, 02:32 AM   #181
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So I just finished a search, I was looking while I got your message, and my hypothesis is...Daisy's Dad must have been a red legged Yorkie...hence her long legs, and redish golden hair...vs shorter legs and blonder hair...Since apparently those genes are strong in breeding, it over powered the maltese.
Daisy though has lost her Yorkie coloring...she's now overall reddish blond, and her roots dont appear to be coming in dark anymore. Thanks Ladymom! I learned something new!
Hey Maybe Ksena is the same deal! minus the maltese lol
Funny!! How long did Daisy have the dark Yorkie colored hair? How old is she now?
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:51 AM   #182
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I found this article the other day and thought it was interesting......thought maybe some of you might be interested as well:

Reviewing Your Dog

People who go out seeking real handbags, want to make sure that they are buying real handbags...there are tons of fakes out there, and before you spend thousands of dollars on a handbag you research online how to spot the fakes right? I mean hell, it would suck to come home and find out a
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few days down the line that you Gucci bag that you just spent $2,000 on is in fact worth crap.

What about dogs though? I cannot tell you how many people go out seeking an expensive breed, only to discover that their dog is in fact a fake! I know it's awful to call a dog a fake...it is in fact a dog...so lets say you spend $2,000 on a Yorkshire terrier...but then your neighbor tells you the thing is a mutt. The fact of the matter is, it's wrong, and breeders nationwide are passing off these toy mutts as pure bred.

Here is my guide...my tips...and my warnings to all of you out there looking to buy yourself or someone else a pure bred Yorkshire Terrier.

My dog is a Chihuahua yorkie mix. He resembles a 'rare black yorkie' (as the vet labeled him). In fact my pooch is a mutt...the proper term for my mutt though is a yorkchi. Nice name for a mutt right? Honest sellers though would sell him as a yorkchi...those who were looking for a quick buck though, would sell my dog as an elusive rare black yorkie and make around $2,000 by using convincing words.

My moms dog is a pure bred Chihuahua.

You get where I'm going?

My mutt (yorkchi) mates with my moms Chihuahua and what do we get? More mutts of course. But my God, these mutts are convincing. In our litter of 4 we ended up having one dog that looked 100% Chihuahua, and 3 puppy's that looked like yorkies!

In reality we have 4 mutts. However, many people who wanted to purchase the puppies were 100% convinced that these mutts were pure bred. We could have played dirty and sold our pure bred mutts as pure bred pups...but that could land us in jail. It's fraud.

Where the heck was this article when I purchased....LOL!!!!
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Believe it or not Morkies are a very popular breed and among the top (mutts)
searched. I have a Shorkie, s**tzu 1/2, Yorkie 1/2. She looked 100 percent Yorkie when she was born including colors. Now her coors have been changing non stop. Thought she was going to be silver then, she srted changing colors again. She now has to liver spots on her head. That just broke the Yorkie on hr. The liver colored spots are her Mom coming thru. She is white and liver/red in coloring.
BUT, I knew I was buyig a Shorkie because that is what I was looking for.
Jemma turned 5 months on Monday and is now 3 pounds 9 ounces. She hit a growth spurt, lol. I'm hoping she'll hit between 6-8 pounds. The teeny weeny ones just scare me to death,as fragile as they are. I'm seeing way too many people changing the Yorkie to be a teeny breed. Too small IMO! And I suspect that they could have more medical problems. So sad. People will risk breeding to make them smaller, not considering the health problems that can occur. All for the love of money....sheesh
I've taken some pictures of my baby and am posting them now in her album.
Take a peek and see what a Shorkie looks like, lol

Carol and Baby Jemma
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Believe it or not Morkies are a very popular breed and among the top (mutts)
searched. I have a Shorkie, s**tzu 1/2, Yorkie 1/2. She looked 100 percent Yorkie when she was born including colors. Now her coors have been changing non stop. Thought she was going to be silver then, she srted changing colors again. She now has to liver spots on her head. That just broke the Yorkie on hr. The liver colored spots are her Mom coming thru. She is white and liver/red in coloring.
BUT, I knew I was buyig a Shorkie because that is what I was looking for.
Jemma turned 5 months on Monday and is now 3 pounds 9 ounces. She hit a growth spurt, lol. I'm hoping she'll hit between 6-8 pounds. The teeny weeny ones just scare me to death,as fragile as they are. I'm seeing way too many people changing the Yorkie to be a teeny breed. Too small IMO! And I suspect that they could have more medical problems. So sad. People will risk breeding to make them smaller, not considering the health problems that can occur. All for the love of money....sheesh
I've taken some pictures of my baby and am posting them now in her album.
Take a peek and see what a Shorkie looks like, lol

Carol and Baby Jemma
I know this is a stupid question but what does IMO mean???? I'll check her pics out now...
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IMO = In My Opinion

You may not have seen the ones I just posted this minute. the Album is called, sitting pretty at 5 months.

When will you be getting the results back? Did you say a couple of weeks?
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IMO = In My Opinion

You may not have seen the ones I just posted this minute. the Album is called, sitting pretty at 5 months.

When will you be getting the results back? Did you say a couple of weeks?
Well, they should have gotten the DNA sample at the lab by Monday or Tuesday. They said it should be about 2-3 weeks. But I've ordered things before and they've said it'll take 4-6 weeks and it comes in the following week. I think they sometimes give you the latest possible time and if it comes in sooner you're thrilled, in which I will be!!! My vet said a day or so after they recieve it...Jonah and Ksena have a vet appointment on Thursday so I'll bug them then about it
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You may not have seen the ones I just posted this minute. the Album is called, sitting pretty at 5 months.

When will you be getting the results back? Did you say a couple of weeks?
No I saw the pics...sooooooo cute!!!! I mentioned on your profile how she has Yorkie legs and a s**tzu face....Very cute!!! Love the face!!!! Adorable!!!
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The entire article is here: http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...orkies.html</a>
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sorry there was more to the article and it didn't come thru.....here it is:

How To Spot The Fake Puppies:

1. Yorkie puppies will always have puffy hair.
Their hair should be thick and burly with curled tips.

-If the puppy you are looking at has thin stringy hair, know that the puppy is a Chihuahua yorkie mix. This puppy is worth $250. Not $2,500. Do not be afraid to point this out to the breeder...see what the scum bag has to say.

2. Look at the face! Mixed yorkies will have a longer narrower face and skull. Pure bred yorkies should have short stout little faces that will almost give off a gremlins type appearance.

3. Check the color/markings on the dog.

Yorkies come in gold and black, and silver and black. Their fur should have obvious markings and colors that are solid, if the colors run into one another which will create a calico type color, the dog is most likely a mutt.

4. Some sellers also like passing of their mutt inbred puppies. This occurs when they keep a male from a litter of puppies, and then that male mates with his mother. These puppies are very convincing... my greatest tip and easiest tip to follow is to check the teeth.

We had a group of inbred puppies before by accident. The puppies all grew a second row of teeth, and only one testicle formed on the male puppies that she had.

So check their teeth. One row and one row only should be present. If you see a weird straggler tooth in the back of the first row, odds are the pup is inbred.

Check male puppies and feel their 'private parts' to make sure their are 2 testicle bumps coming in, and not just one. You should feel two of course. The absence of a testicle is a sure sign the puppy is an inbred. The puppy may e convincing, the puppy may even be a pure bred puppy...but its an inbred pure bred puppy. Not cool.

5. Ask to see the parents of the puppy if you are buying from a breeder. The parents should be on the premises. If the parents are not pure bred, or don't look pure bred, don't buy unless you are okay with the non-pure bred.

6. Be careful in pet stores. I see more fake yorkies here than I have at any breeders house. These puppies are always very obvious, and always have the stringy hair I mentioned earlier. If you are buying a pure bred yorkie try and locate a reputable breeder.

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7. If the dog is cheap; too cheap that it is almost too good to be true...then it probably is.

Yorkie mixed with Chihuahua are the easiest puppies to pass off as real yorkies or 'Chihuahuas'. Don't be fooled.

Keep in mind what I mentioned while buying your pure bred yorkie.

The key is the hair. If the hair is not thick and puffy, you are looking at an expensive
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-If you do not mind that the dog is not a pure bred, then at least make sure you are getting the puppy for the fair $250 range of price. Anything more is robbery.
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I know, I almost fell over when I saw her pic!!! I almost thought Ksena was a Pom....Maltese is surprising!!!! I thought a Maltese has a blocky head????
I have a Maltese and I see nothing of Maltese in Daisy.
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I'm not in agreement with the teeth, the testicles nor the coat. Purebred Yorkies can have one testicle drop only. Any breed can. If you go to YorkiePassion
Yorkie puppy coat color stages within the first two years of maturity - yorkie hair color

Read it all. Sparse thin hair/coat will double and triple in length

Wolly,thin coats do not achieve great length. It is a neat site chock full of info, growth chart too!



A puppy whose coat appears sparse or thin will, as an adult, have a thick, long coat of the correct fine silky, glossy texture. This coat’s growth is like a human’s hair, in that it is born with very little but by adulthood has an abundance of hair, the quantity having doubled and redoubled all during puppyhoor childhood). Both colors will be totally clear.

A puppy whose coat appears sparse or thin will, as an adult, have a thick, long coat of the correct fine silky, glossy texture. This coat’s growth is like a human’s hair, in that it is born with very little but by adulthood has an abundance of hair, the quantity having doubled and redoubled all during puppyochildh. Both colors will be totally clear.
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I'm not in agreement with the teeth, the testicles nor the coat. Purebred Yorkies can have one testicle drop only. Any breed can. If you go to YorkiePassion
Yorkie puppy coat color stages within the first two years of maturity - yorkie hair color

Read it all. Sparse thin hair/coat will double and triple in length

Wolly,thin coats do not achieve great length. It is a neat site chock full of info, growth chart too!



A puppy whose coat appears sparse or thin will, as an adult, have a thick, long coat of the correct fine silky, glossy texture. This coat’s growth is like a human’s hair, in that it is born with very little but by adulthood has an abundance of hair, the quantity having doubled and redoubled all during puppyhoor childhood). Both colors will be totally clear.

A puppy whose coat appears sparse or thin will, as an adult, have a thick, long coat of the correct fine silky, glossy texture. This coat’s growth is like a human’s hair, in that it is born with very little but by adulthood has an abundance of hair, the quantity having doubled and redoubled all during puppyochildh. Both colors will be totally clear.
If you reread the article, the author said puppies with only one testicle are "inbred", not that they aren't purebred. I think the author meant that since cryptochordism is genetic, a puppy with only one testicle is a red flag that you are not dealing with a reputable breeder. Males with only one testicle or who produce a cryptochord puppy should not be bred..

I had no idea Yorkies were so commonly mixed with Chihuahuas. That explains some of the huge ears I see in pictures here.

I know poorly bred Maltese often have Bichon in their background. Bichons are larger so they have less complicated deliveries and produce more puppies, just what greeders want. Those puppies grow up to be supersized (over ten pounds) adults with curly coats, not what their naive owners thought they were getting.
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If you reread the article, the author said puppies with only one testicle are "inbred", not that they aren't purebred. I think the author meant that since cryptochordism is genetic, a puppy with only one testicle is a red flag that you are not dealing with a reputable breeder. Males with only one testicle or who produce a cryptochord puppy should not be bred..

I had no idea Yorkies were so commonly mixed with Chihuahuas. That explains some of the huge ears I see in pictures here.

I know poorly bred Maltese often have Bichon in their background. Bichons are larger so they have less complicated deliveries and produce more puppies, just what greeders want. Those puppies grow up to be supersized (over ten pounds) adults with curly coats, not what their naive owners thought they were getting.
Wow, what people will do for an extra buck....they should get a job...LOL! I can't believe all that I've learned!!!! It's amazing!!!! Who's to say some of the people have a mixed and just believe it's not....DNA, I'm buying stock...hahahahaha
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Wow, what people will do for an extra buck....they should get a job...LOL! I can't believe all that I've learned!!!! It's amazing!!!! Who's to say some of the people have a mixed and just believe it's not....DNA, I'm buying stock...hahahahaha
DNA testing is so new, just a couple of years old. It will be interesting to see how many people like you who suspect their puppy is not purebred will have it DNA'd. I'm waiting for the first court case using DNA evidence..... maybe you?
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If you reread the article, the author said puppies with only one testicle are "inbred", not that they aren't purebred. I think the author meant that since cryptochordism is genetic, a puppy with only one testicle is a red flag that you are not dealing with a reputable breeder. Males with only one testicle or who produce a cryptochord puppy should not be bred..

I had no idea Yorkies were so commonly mixed with Chihuahuas. That explains some of the huge ears I see in pictures here.

I know poorly bred Maltese often have Bichon in their background. Bichons are larger so they have less complicated deliveries and produce more puppies, just what greeders want. Those puppies grow up to be supersized (over ten pounds) adults with curly coats, not what their naive owners thought they were getting.
I read somewhere that people were throwing Chihuahuas in with Yorkies to produce smaller version Yorkies.........."teacups" are so marketable...but apparently the term is made up...like the inexperienced breeder of my male said "a Yorkie is a Yorkie, no such thing as a teacup!!!!"
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