Does this look like the same dog to you?

[Sugar's Mom]

Please contact yorkieinc.com Not a rescue per se, but a placement service for yorkies.

[jasmanea]

Yes I am beyond furious now after sitting back and having to read about 400 posts of crap and still seeing people siding with the buyer after she posted emma for sale with the same pics and advertising her as a breeder (those of you catching up that have no life-please see pages 17-18). How long should I sit back and keep listening. I have no reputation on YT and will say exactly what I feel on the matter. It is a bunch of B.S and I am amazed how fast people judge based on some heated exchanges without having all the facts. It reminds me of why our growth as human beings in so stagnant and why this world is just going to hell. I usually try to be patient, but hey guess what as of today... I have fallen OFF the bandwagon!!!!!!! I'm sure I will recoup soon and will again realize what a complete waste of time this thread is...but it isn't really fun to hear such people saying such negative crap even though they only know fragments of a situation. I sure hope none of you criticizing judgement people decide to post anything for sale on here. I bet you'll be judged as well. I know I am going to keep all these posts for reference.

[jasmanea]

Oh and dave keep your personal comments about "psycotic..etc.. " to yourself. My father just passed this month and though I might not be in a particular frame of mind that you feel I should be.. I am in no way psycotic.
You are one rude individual and if you continue you can take it up with my husband. I promise he will be much more pleasant than I am. I have kept him out of it as much as possible. Gina why don't you do the same. He again wasn't there to hear all the conversation between us. Though my husband and I both heard you yelling and saying "why can't that jackass do something simple" when you were talking about him getting the wire out. You said "I could have done it a hell of alot faster". I held the phone out by my ear. A little surprised at the time, but NOT anymore!

[jasmanea]

Originally Posted by jasmanea

Oh and dave keep your personal comments about "psycotic..etc.. " to yourself. My father just passed this month and though I might not be in a particular frame of mind that you feel I should be.. I am in no way psycotic.
You are one rude individual and if you continue you can take it up with my husband. I promise he will be much more pleasant than I am. I have kept him out of it as much as possible. Gina why don't you do the same. He again wasn't there to hear all the conversation between us. Though my husband and I both heard you yelling and saying "why can't that jackass do something simple" when you were talking about him getting the wire out. You said "I could have done it a hell of alot faster". I held the phone out by my ear. A little surprised at the time, but NOT anymore!

Of course those statement are irrelevant.. before anyone else decides to comment on it... but then again... SO ARE ALL YOUR OPINIONS on something you have NO FACTS on.

[karlaparis88]

Originally Posted by jasmanea

My REVIEWS for the Breeder.

1. I do not think you are a responsible breeder (everyone has opinions) which my opinion is very strong

2. I do believe that you do not care for Emma because of Gina's attitude (yes I am sick of her attitude and everyone else that is jaded.. what do you think I am just going to keep sitting back and continue to put "my opinion in") Again you wrote about Gina, why didn't you pin point the fact about Emma?


3. Why haven't you agreed to any other negotiation that has been posted on this thread? (again you don't know what you are talking about. maybe you should read it again) I read and yes you did put a negotiation but so did Gina and you ignored those... why not post a negotiation here on the thread so that WE THE PEOPLE know that you are trying to help Emma despite your uglyness towards Gina

4. YT probably won't harm your reputation for you selling your pups, but you may not be looked the same way ever again. (again your asking me to care what a few people without all the facts think?? Are you serious?) .yes, you have a business breeding... It matters to future buyers. I take much pride in my business, one customer can ruin the opinions of tens of other future buyers

5. It doesn't matter to me whether your mother bought you a new adult yorkie and her pup, I too think that is fishy, you did buy her right after you sold Emma and now you wont work with her? (Personally it is none of your business what I buy, do I criticize your yorkie purchases? Really now... ? and my finances are none of your business and DO NOT bring my mother into this.... ) Well since it was brought up that you aren't going to help Emma any longer I believe this is another reason, you no longer have the funds to help Emma. And you brought your mother into this... not me... I am just mentioning something you orginally typed...

6. Great breeders handle every situation with their pups privately so that it doesnt get to this (bashing threads, negative reviews, etc.) where it can affect their reputation whether it does harm or not.
Well did I start the thread.. NO.... you never saw the back and forth emails or or heard the telephone conversation... why is it your are posting??? I am posting because I CAN... and because i think you are disgusting. You hardly made a good word for your case... most of the time you got on here to bash. Oh goodness, just like I AM!! OMG!!! But at least i'm admitting to it and you didn't agree to anything so the buyer went public.... I see you couldn't handle the situation. And Gina couldn't either.

This is my review of the breeder. (I see you didn't post about the buyer-thats funny) I have much more to say but are not appropriate. I just think of the few posts that the seller has typed on this thread has given me a bad impression. And I am not taking sides.... Gina now knows her mistake and is now and has to keep maning up to it.... but the seller keeps on bashing. eh.... i have nothing more to say.Than why say anything in the first place

AGAIN, BECAUSE I HAVE THE RIGHT TO TYPE ANYTHING I WANT ON THE FREE FORUM!! AND THESE ARE MY OPINIONS AND I AM NOT ON EITHER SIDE.... just that you left a BAD BAD impression.

Also you keep posting that ad and saying that Gina misrepresented Emma as well...

Are you admitting to misrepresenting Emma from the get go???

[jasmanea]

Am I venting. Hell yes I am... I have.......

what 400 posts to catch up with??? Good way to get numbers up I suppose and also vent.

[jasmanea]

Please feel free to go back and read pages 17 and 18 before that is lost sight of as well.

[jasmanea]

Originally Posted by karlaparis88

Than why say anything in the first place

AGAIN, BECAUSE I HAVE THE RIGHT TO TYPE ANYTHING I WANT ON THE FREE FORUM!!

Also you keep posting that ad and saying that Gina misrepresented Emma as well...

Are you admitting to misrepresenting Emma from the get go???[/QUOTE]



UMM NO>..did you see me say that... let me answer.....NO/AND JUST AS MANY KNOW I DID NOT BECAUSE THEY CAN "SEE".

[ChantalB]

In my opinion, as a breeder.

1. Emma should be return to the Seller.

2. The Buyer should paid for shipping cost

3. The buyer should not get a refund for vet bills and original shipping. You got that dog, It was your choice to get it ship.You should assumed part of the lost.

4. The Seller should give a refund to the Buyer for the dog.

5. The Seller should get Emma neuter, and start looking for a forever home for her.

I understand both side anger, but you are going to have to come down, forget about yourself for a minute and focus on that poor Emma.

And the sooner the better.

[Lolasmom1211]

I have totally stayed out of this thread until now.

I just have one simple question - How can anyone that supposedly loves their dogs, knowing that their dog is in a place where it is not wanted and leave it there? Jasmanea - are you going to do anything about this little girl?

[tumismom]

Both the breeder and the op lied that's the bottom line. They both should be ashamed!!!!! I feel so sad for emma.

[WalnutHill]

Originally Posted by Lolasmom1211

I have totally stayed out of this thread until now.

I just have one simple question - How can anyone that supposedly loves their dogs, knowing that their dog is in a place where it is not wanted and leave it there? Jasmanea - are you going to do anything about this little girl?

My question exactly!

And why, if you have a dog in your house that you are afraid will hurt your children or other dog, would you not be actively looking for at least a temporary home for the animal until the issue is resolved. -Offer her for free to someone just to care for for a while - she needs to be in a loving home. I know the money is a point of contention, but that's NOT EMMA'S FAULT!!!!

Both sides of this have a LOT to answer for. Sort it out later! This "she-said, she-said" is getting out of hand. No one is talking about a resoultion that benefits Emma.

QUIT THE BASHING AND BICKERING - DO WHAT'S RIGHT!!!

FIND SOMEONE TO LOVE EMMA!

[dogbert]

Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

I've just come across this thread and it poses several interesting issues. First, I am no expert except to the extent that I spend the greater part of my life lately staring at Yorkie pictures on here and, to me, that doesn't even come close to looking like the same dog. But whether it is or isn't, I just want the OP to know that bringing a lawsuit for fraud may feel morally right to you, but it will be a huge headache trying to bring someone from across the country into small claims court. I feel for you so much. Purchasing a pup on the internet is risky, but sometimes we don't have a lot of options. If you live near me, I have not found one Yorkie breeder anywhere near me. Pet stores are not an option. Even if you do get to meet the pup before you purchase, there is still so much risk involved. My breeder boasts on her website that she promises you will get a healthy, well socialized puppy. I spent almost $1,200 to get a pup with a liver shunt who, since being diagnosed last month, has already cost me between $4,000 and $5,0000 dollars in medical expenses and that's just the beginning. My breeder didn't give me a dime or an ounce of emotional support. Can I sue her for fraud? I doubt it. I don't want to hijack this very upsetting thread. Just want to tell you that I feel for you and understand how you feel betrayed by someone in this community. The upside to my situation is that I do have a wonderful dog that I love dearly and who fits in with my family. I just hope you don't get into a protracted legal mess that will cost a lot more than Emma. If the breeder ignores you and there is no hope for training, then maybe you should concentrate on finding her the best possible home. You will be out the money, but you will have the satisfaction of knowing you did the best thing for Emma and probably got her out of a situation where she wasn't wanted anyway. A breeder who cares about her Yorkie would never respond like this.

If you were sold a pup with a liver shunt you should have returned it to the breeder for your money back or pick of the next litter. If you kept the pup then you paid the vet bills. I had this happen to me once and those were my options.

[weeloves06]

I can understand your disappointment in what you received. I think this dog needs somebody to work with her to get her under control, she is the pack leader. It is not the dogs fault, and I am not blaming you. If I was the person that sold you a pup you were not happy with, by all means i would take it back and refund the money, however, only after I re-cooped the funds. I took one back because the family was having problems, but did not refund all the money until she was sold again, that was agreed upon with the buyer. Good luck, it is hard to deal with a strong pack leader dog. I have one, she is 3 lbs also, but a tough girl, she is now understanding I am the boss, lol.

[morrislaz]

sorry, but that does not look like the same dog. As far as the temperament I would give that some time with the change in home, people, etc.