Does this look like the same dog to you?

[dogbert]

Originally Posted by WalnutHill

My question exactly!

And why, if you have a dog in your house that you are afraid will hurt your children or other dog, would you not be actively looking for at least a temporary home for the animal until the issue is resolved. -Offer her for free to someone just to care for for a while - she needs to be in a loving home. I know the money is a point of contention, but that's NOT EMMA'S FAULT!!!!

Both sides of this have a LOT to answer for. Sort it out later! This "she-said, she-said" is getting out of hand. No one is talking about a resoultion that benefits Emma.

QUIT THE BASHING AND BICKERING - DO WHAT'S RIGHT!!!

FIND SOMEONE TO LOVE EMMA!

What kind of temp home should she look for? I would be afraid of the dog biting someone and getting sued. We live in a lawsuit happy society and even if warned ahead of time if it happened you could still get sued.

[Teiya]

Originally Posted by jasmanea

Oh and dave keep your personal comments about "psycotic..etc.. " to yourself. My father just passed this month and though I might not be in a particular frame of mind that you feel I should be.. I am in no way psycotic.
You are one rude individual and if you continue you can take it up with my husband. I promise he will be much more pleasant than I am. I have kept him out of it as much as possible. Gina why don't you do the same. He again wasn't there to hear all the conversation between us. Though my husband and I both heard you yelling and saying "why can't that jackass do something simple" when you were talking about him getting the wire out. You said "I could have done it a hell of alot faster". I held the phone out by my ear. A little surprised at the time, but NOT anymore!

You are so full of it and I'm not going to waste any more of my time even addressing this BS Christina.

You lied to me. Plain and simple. YOU LIED. You sent me pictures of Emma SWEARING that was her. My vet didn't even think it was the same dog. No one does. But whatever. You told me she was 5 lbs. NOT 6.12. YOu told me she gets along well with all other dogs she's ever been around. Never said anything about her being food aggressive. You said she was good with kids. Never mentioned that it's unless they have food in their hands.

Whatever! Seriously!

Are you going to take this dog back or not? Wylie's mom was willing to be a liason between us. If you had so many other people interested in her, then why not take her back and sell her to them?

[WalnutHill]

Originally Posted by dogbert

What kind of temp home should she look for? I would be afraid of the dog biting someone and getting sued. We live in a lawsuit happy society and even if warned ahead of time if it happened you could still get sued.

Well, someone honest and kind and loving.

I don't have any friends that would sue me, no matter what the situation.

[karlaparis88]

Originally Posted by jasmanea

UMM NO>..did you see me say that... let me answer.....NO/AND JUST AS MANY KNOW I DID NOT BECAUSE THEY CAN "SEE".

Well, I just got my question of my mind answered today. And this is what it looks like to me and the vibe that I am getting...

If you don't care for the pups you breed.

....I may be wrong, but this is my impression.

Yes you may have tried to work with her. But why are you stopping? Her attitude may be awful but that is still a pup that you bred, you watched or at least helped be brought into this world.

Yes it's still Gina's responsibility, but poor Emma is stuck in a situation because you two can't get over your differences. Someone, anyone, please help Emma.

I've realized the breeder isn't going to...I'm hoping she makes SOME additional effort.

This is my last post on this matter.

I'm going to be the first to apologize to you Christin, because you'll have to lie in the bed you've made for yourself.

I also apologize to YT, I just am soooo angry, I've been following this thread and the more she doesn't respond to what should or what could be done for Emma irritates me.

If you refunded her, let us know, so that this can be let go and we can see Emma have a happier ending.

[Britster]

LOL, I had to pipe in on this thread as I've been reading it as it went along out of pure curiosity.

I think it was really dumb to trust someone to send you the dog you are expecting after sending a MONEY ORDER with NO proof that you even gave this woman (the seller) money. But, I have made that mistake before with concert tickets, and I still am hitting myself every day. Dumb move. Never money gram cash to a person, no matter how much you trust them.

And personally, I find the seller to be annoying and immature. Stop pulling the "boo hoo" for me card. It doesn't matter what has happened in your life recently - it doesn't give you an excuse to do what you do. *shrug* I hate to sound impersonal, but I've gone through a lot of CRAP in my life in the last 2 years (including losing a 6 year old brother three years ago) but it doesn't give me an excuse to rip someone off, act like a fool, or be a loser.

That's my thoughts. And I'm out.

[Teiya]

Originally Posted by tumismom

Both the breeder and the op lied that's the bottom line. They both should be ashamed!!!!! I feel so sad for emma.

I didn't lie. I just don't want this dog in my house anymore. It's too much of a risk for me. That doesn't make me a bad person. I begged the seller publically and privately to take this dog back. Since she won't, I'd have to sell her myself to attempt to recoup some of my losses. Only I'd find her a home locally where people can actually come meet Emma.

The only way I'm putting this dog on a plane is if it's going back to Jasmanea. If she'd have been honest, the dog never would have come here to begin with.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by Teiya

I didn't lie. I just don't want this dog in my house anymore. It's too much of a risk for me. That doesn't make me a bad person. I begged the seller publically and privately to take this dog back. Since she won't, I'd have to sell her myself to attempt to recoup some of my losses. Only I'd find her a home locally where people can actually come meet Emma.

The only way I'm putting this dog on a plane is if it's going back to Jasmanea. If she'd have been honest, the dog never would have come here to begin with.

Yep.

And honestly, at this point - I wouldn't want the dog to go back to Jasmanea. You can probably find her a much better home.

[Baxters Mommy]

Originally Posted by jasmanea

Oh and you think I trust myself with picking a good owner??? Look what one I chose. I was PROMISED.... she would have a forever home with her. I was told she knew behavioral therapy and that she could train her and that her dog was submissive so it was "ok if Emma was in charge" if that happened. I was assured, guarenteed,,, I turned down 2 different breeders because Gina promised me she would be the perfect home and that she would get her spayed. I don't feel I have a right to tell someone else not to breed a dog. Pot-Kettle, but I did chose the home that was supposed to be her forever and that was going to get her spayed. I did not know she was going to have her posted on Chelseys website as a "breeder dog that is about to go into heat soon. I never even told her when her heat was, as I didn't think it pertinant if she were to be spayed. I'm just tired of being persecuted and still don't know why people refer to a "reputation as a breeder" again see all my 900 something posts and tell me how many are lobbying puppies! (not directed at you chi)

Emma obviously was not the right fit for Teiya's home. And it APPEARS from the e-mails you posted from Teiya that she was willing to give it some time. Well, time's up, and Teiya still doesn't feel that Emma is right for her home. How can you NOT want Emma back? How do you KNOW that Teiya is giving Emma all the love she should be given? (Not insinuating Teiya isn't, just trying to make a point.) Do you care about Emma? Personally, and I'm not a breeder or an expert, but I would want my dog back to try and find a better suited home for her. Maybe the other interested buyers would still be interested? Who cares what Teiya posted or blah blah blah. Bottom line is that Teiya does not want Emma, and that SHOULD be enough for YOU to want EMMA back. This is not about y'all's argument anymore and who is right and who is wrong. It is about this poor, HELPLESS dog stuck in the middle. I just want Emma to have a caring, loving home that would best fit her personality just like every other YT member that has posted.

[Britster]

What's "funny" about this whole situation is how EASILY it could have been resolved.

Teiya gets the dog... it's not what she wanted/expected. Teiya contacts the seller and lets her know. Seller says "OK, you will be refunded your money for the dog - just ship her back to me." Refund money, ship dog back. End case.

[Baxters Mommy]

Originally Posted by Britster

What's "funny" about this whole situation is how EASILY it could have been resolved.

Teiya gets the dog... it's not what she wanted/expected. Teiya contacts the seller and lets her know. Seller says "OK, you will be refunded your money for the dog - just ship her back to me." Refund money, ship dog back. End case.

:thum bup:

I know, it just blows my mind.

[tumismom]

Originally Posted by Teiya

I didn't lie. I just don't want this dog in my house anymore. It's too much of a risk for me. That doesn't make me a bad person. I begged the seller publically and privately to take this dog back. Since she won't, I'd have to sell her myself to attempt to recoup some of my losses. Only I'd find her a home locally where people can actually come meet Emma.

The only way I'm putting this dog on a plane is if it's going back to Jasmanea. If she'd have been honest, the dog never would have come here to begin with.

according to the sale ad that chelsey posted, you discribed her as a great breeding dog with good temperment???? How she is coming into her heat? I am confused.

[WalnutHill]

Originally Posted by Britster

What's "funny" about this whole situation is how EASILY it could have been resolved.

Teiya gets the dog... it's not what she wanted/expected. Teiya contacts the seller and lets her know. Seller says "OK, you will be refunded your money for the dog - just ship her back to me." Refund money, ship dog back. End case.

It can still be resolved like that if both sides would stop dealing with semantics.

[DanicaBraggs]

Originally Posted by Mom2Lulu

Let me be the first to donate $50.00 to help Emma find a home. Come on everyone... put your money where your mouth is, even if it is only $10.00.

Ann, can someone at YT be responsible for holding the money and helping Emma?

I will donate $50,just tell me where to send it but I want her rehomed to someone who will not use her to just have puppies.You know what I bet I could make some calls and get more money donated my Mom and sister-in-law are big animal lovers and I have been sharing with them this story.come on YT members let's find her a good home and donate for her well being.

[Teiya]

Originally Posted by Britster

LOL, I had to pipe in on this thread as I've been reading it as it went along out of pure curiosity.

I think it was really dumb to trust someone to send you the dog you are expecting after sending a MONEY ORDER with NO proof that you even gave this woman (the seller) money. But, I have made that mistake before with concert tickets, and I still am hitting myself every day. Dumb move. Never money gram cash to a person, no matter how much you trust them.

And personally, I find the seller to be annoying and immature. Stop pulling the "boo hoo" for me card. It doesn't matter what has happened in your life recently - it doesn't give you an excuse to do what you do. *shrug* I hate to sound impersonal, but I've gone through a lot of CRAP in my life in the last 2 years (including losing a 6 year old brother three years ago) but it doesn't give me an excuse to rip someone off, act like a fool, or be a loser.

That's my thoughts. And I'm out.

It wasn't a money order. I wanted to pay with Paypal but she refused and insisted on a wire transfer. At least with the wire transfer, I have a case. It's a federal crime to use a wire transfer in connection with fraud.

The president of the avian society that I work with is a lawyer. I'm sure he'll help me with all the paperwork and filing the appropriate documents regarding this situation. so it won't cost me anything out of my pocket.

[MaddieBoo]

Originally Posted by Teiya

I didn't lie. I just don't want this dog in my house anymore. It's too much of a risk for me. That doesn't make me a bad person. I begged the seller publically and privately to take this dog back. Since she won't, I'd have to sell her myself to attempt to recoup some of my losses. Only I'd find her a home locally where people can actually come meet Emma.

The only way I'm putting this dog on a plane is if it's going back to Jasmanea. If she'd have been honest, the dog never would have come here to begin with.

It would appear you did lie when you put the ad up with Chelsy. You said:
-She was your friend
-That you got Emma as a present
-That she was a "good breeder" and "coming into her first heat"?????

And the picture that was on the ad was the one you claimed to have been scammed with!

As soon as you had that ad placed, you took about 20 steps back in making yourself sound credible.