Does this look like the same dog to you?

[dogbert]

Originally Posted by DogLovingOwner

What ended up happenin? I read to page 3 then skipped to the last page. Hahaha.

The jury is still out............

[Borinal]

Originally Posted by Sunnie

Sad... sad.... sad! I know I already stated that I am sure this is the same dog in the pictures and also mentioned that the seller DID disclose in her ad that the dog had some aggression issues. That was not meant to insinuate that the OP should have known better. Just that greater care should have been taken.... possibly a contract written up to accept the dog on a trial basis. That being said it is too late for that now. Jasmanea, as the breeder/seller of this dog, I truly believe it is in your best interest to bring this little girl home and refund the original purchase price plus one way shipping to the buyer at the very least. If you truly believe that this girl was represented fairly, you will have no problem rehoming her to the RIGHT home. Don't ruin your reputation by letting this go. Honestly, as a breeder, I would want my puppies/adult dogs to go to the RIGHT loving home where they will be well taken care of and where they will be safe. I hope you step up and do the right thing and contact the buyer to arrange return of Emma.

To the buyer, I can see you are doing everything in your power to work with the seller. I wish you the best of luck. I wish Emma a happy loving home.

I absolutely agree and she'll be put on a plane and returned home as soon as the seller is ready to do what is right and refund us. We aren't a payday loan center. Why should we be stiffed with the bill here when we aren't the ones that did anything wrong other than trust the word of the otherwise seemingly reputable seller. If only the person that returned Emma the first time around had stood up and said something we would have been properly informed and this wouldn't have happened to a second family.

[jmdt]

Originally Posted by Borinal

We weren't adopting a rescue. We were adopting a laid back timid but playful mate for our other yorkie and children. You can preach all that you want but I guess the bottom line is that you don't support the purchase of a yorkie or any animal for that matter over the internet. Which unfortunately due to dishonest misrepesentation I have to agree with. It is however a widely accepted and common thing. We have a friend that is a breeder of Beagles locally that took first in show at Westminister. When you use her as a benchmark of what to expect from breeders we obviously misplaced a lot of trust in the Seller expecting some integirty from someone that is involved with overseeing the well being of a fragile and deserving life such as Emma and expected that she wouldn't lie to us and put her into a situation that obviously was not a good fit for her, but hey, it's not her problem anymore now is it?

I wasn't taking a position but I have to agree with you. If I put myself in your shoes. You just wanted to add another baby to your family. You would expect to get the truth about a baby. You spent alot of money to get just the right one. It is really sad. I would be mad too if I were you as I have children also and a smaller yorkie. It's just not the idea of not the right fit it's a real problem for your children and your little one. I'm so sorry this didn't work out for you. I'm sure there is a little one out there that is right for your family. This one was clearly not. I also agree that that is not the same dog in the picture imo. They do change, yes, but come on not that fast, 1 month, no way. To insinuate that you are mistreating this little one is just not fair. Just look at the hair on the chest. it's golden in the first picture and black in the second one. And that's not mud come on!! I think you were duped. Next time go look at the dog with your kids and make a decision. I know hindsight is 20/20. Good luck!!

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by Borinal

We weren't adopting a rescue. We were adopting a laid back timid but playful mate for our other yorkie and children. You can preach all that you want but I guess the bottom line is that you don't support the purchase of a yorkie or any animal for that matter over the internet. Which unfortunately due to dishonest misrepesentation I have to agree with. It is however a widely accepted and common thing. We have a friend that is a breeder of Beagles locally that took first in show at Westminister. When you use her as a benchmark of what to expect from breeders we obviously misplaced a lot of trust in the Seller expecting some integirty from someone that is involved with overseeing the well being of a fragile and deserving life such as Emma and expected that she wouldn't lie to us and put her into a situation that obviously was not a good fit for her, but hey, it's not her problem anymore now is it?

You sound like a decent person that made a bad choice. No I dont think buying a grown dog on the internet is wise at all especially when small children are involved.Unless you visit the dog first. But what should happen now is a 100% refund and a one way ticket back . This dog must not be sold but given to a person that has no children and no pets.In the wrong hands this poor dogs fate is not good.

[MaxwellHouse]

The black coloration on the bridge of the nose makes it seem that it would have to be a different dog. I know black coloration gets lighter, but gold hair on snouts don't turn black. Come on Seller, do what's right for Emma.

[DogLovingOwner]

Did the OP get a new user??

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by DogLovingOwner

Did the OP get a new user??

No it's her husband's username.

[yorkie mad]

i dont think the buyer or the seller deserves this dog. Your like children arguing over a toy. This is a living creature that needs love. Theres too much talk about money and not enough about the needs of the dog. The buyer should always see the dog before buying ,we all know that. Find a puppy in your own hometown and save the poor animal from travelling.

[Borinal]

Originally Posted by jmdt

I wasn't taking a position but I have to agree with you. If I put myself in your shoes. You just wanted to add another baby to your family. You would expect to get the truth about a baby. You spent alot of money to get just the right one. It is really sad. I would be mad too if I were you as I have children also and a smaller yorkie. It's just not the idea of not the right fit it's a real problem for your children and your little one. I'm so sorry this didn't work out for you. I'm sure there is a little one out there that is right for your family. This one was clearly not. I also agree that that is not the same dog in the picture imo. They do change, yes, but come on not that fast, 1 month, no way. To insinuate that you are mistreating this little one is just not fair. Just look at the hair on the chest. it's golden in the first picture and black in the second one. And that's not mud come on!! I think you were duped. Next time go look at the dog with your kids and make a decision. I know hindsight is 20/20. Good luck!!

Yeah, it is a very real problem. Hindsight is always 20/20. Anyone IMHO would be just as upset if it were them. If it had changed that dramatically "I" would have expected her to not say "Yes, she looks exactly the same." but rather to send updated pictures and let us know. She knew that size was a concern for us with Teiya being so small. Nearly 2lb's is a huge difference. I'm just lost as to where to go from here. I really don't want it to go down this road but if she isn't willing to take ownership of this I have no other choice than to lie down and take it or persue legal recourse, and I cannot lie down and take it, though I feel deeply for Emma, on one hand I feel so bad and on the other I didn't put her in this situation and it doesn't make me feel any less bad for her, but it does help me to not feel guilty about whatever we have to do to resolve this even though it will impact emma to goto another home.

[WalnutHill]

So, what is going on? I got to page 10 and had to stop - nothing new is being said anyway.

It's a different dog, no question, or at least a terribly misrepresented dog by using a really old photo for the ad (I think it's a different dog). In my experience, lighting can make a HUGE difference - more lighting can make the hair appear fuller and lighter, but that's not the same dog.

Are you guys working something out or are you looking for a new home for her? I would love the opportunity to help in any way I can. - Like findhing her a new home, etc.

Honestly, as a breeder, I would refund every cent and drive to Florida to pick her up if there were a problem. Especially with an adult Yorkie, a good fit in a new family is a MUST. We have rehomed a few older Yorkies, and always there was the expectation that if for ANY reason it didn't work out, we would happily take the Yorkie back and find it a new home - I want to know where all of our babies are, how they are being cared for, who they are with, etc. Personalities with older Yorkies can be tricky when you take them out of their normal environment, so a breder should always spend a lot of time in making the right family choice when rehoming a Yorkie.

Anyway, I've thrown in my two cents.

Here's an example of how lighting can make a Yorkie look different - same dog, one outside with natural light and one inside under bright lights with a flash - taken about 6 days apart.

[DanicaBraggs]

Ok I am a new member and I have been keeping up on this all day.I had to take my little guy Jasper in for his second shots today and came home and got back on.I am so worried about what is going to happen to this little girl,man if I had that money I would just buy her from you,get her fixed and let her live the rest of her life with me but sadly I don't have that kind of money.All I have is the love of a furbaby who needs a forever home which at this time she doesn't have.I would take her in a heart beat and train her as I have all my others.Like I said before all my dogs are rescues except Jasper he is our only one who was bought from a breeder which Thank the Lord it was my Aunt who we knew very well that we got him from.I am telling you all I want is for this furbaby to find her a forever home so if anyone wants to loan me 1150 I would glady take her Maybe I will get a knock on the door and someone will hand me the money.I will be praying for this little girl to find a home she truely needs.
God Bless everyone involved and hopefully everything will be worked out.

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by yorkie mad

i dont think the buyer or the seller deserves this dog. Your like children arguing over a toy. This is a living creature that needs love. Theres too much talk about money and not enough about the needs of the dog. The buyer should always see the dog before buying ,we all know that. Find a puppy in your own hometown and save the poor animal from travelling.

I really understand the buyers points. Why should they take over $500 hit?
Any responsible reputable seller will always take their dogs back. This dog was clearly mis-advertised. All of this could of been avoided if the seller did the right thing in the first place. I feel the buyers are being more than fair.

[Borinal]

Originally Posted by yorkie mad

i dont think the buyer or the seller deserves this dog. Your like children arguing over a toy. This is a living creature that needs love. Theres too much talk about money and not enough about the needs of the dog. The buyer should always see the dog before buying ,we all know that. Find a puppy in your own hometown and save the poor animal from travelling.

I really do feel bad for Emma. But if we base the situation off of this I'd have gone to the animal shelter and I'd be taking in even more pets than we already do with avian rescue. It's just not the hard reality of things and I'm sorry if some of you don't like that. I hate to be a dick but if you feel so strongly put your money where your mouth is and adopt her. What we ALL want and what is realistic are two very different things. At some point in your life every single one of you have had to draw the line on selflessness. Call me selfish but I'm definitely no fool.

[dogbert]

Originally Posted by Borinal

Yeah, it is a very real problem. Hindsight is always 20/20. Anyone IMHO would be just as upset if it were them. If it had changed that dramatically "I" would have expected her to not say "Yes, she looks exactly the same." but rather to send updated pictures and let us know. She knew that size was a concern for us with Teiya being so small. Nearly 2lb's is a huge difference. I'm just lost as to where to go from here. I really don't want it to go down this road but if she isn't willing to take ownership of this I have no other choice than to lie down and take it or persue legal recourse, and I cannot lie down and take it, though I feel deeply for Emma, on one hand I feel so bad and on the other I didn't put her in this situation and it doesn't make me feel any less bad for her, but it does help me to not feel guilty about whatever we have to do to resolve this even though it will impact emma to goto another home.

If you go the legal route I hope the judge will reqire the dog be spayed and proof be supplied to the judge in due time that it has been done.

[TLC]

I looked back at the photos. I think this is the same dog, (eyes and snout area look the same shape and size) - HOWEVER, I do think that the seller posted VERY, VERY Young photos of this dog - so misleading to me