Does this look like the same dog to you?

[WalnutHill]

Originally Posted by sheilacantoo

stop her, so she can't do it to other people too. I agree the dog is cute but its not what she told her she was getting.

[Teiya]

Originally Posted by KimberlySRN

Poor Emma. This entire situation is a mess and I think that both the seller and buyer need to take this matter private. A life is involved and needs to be handled as such. I can see many wrongs done with this sale, but that is the past and now instead of bickering on a forum, things need to be handled for Emmas sake. I do choose a side, Emma's.

I have tried to communicate with the seller privately. And the result was the same bashing and accusations here in public. She doesn't respond to my emails anymore because she doesn't want to do what and GOOD breeder will do. I want what's in Emma's best interest... a good home where she'll be loved and be the only dog. But clearly, the responsibility lies on Jasmanea, not me.

[ILoveBingoo]

I posted a Thread Of a Yorkie Rescue Site that I came across if anyone want's to look all the Yorkie's come in all different age's and some have special needs check it out if you come across it I post it alil while ago.

[LuvmyYorkies2]

Originally Posted by Teiya

I have tried to communicate with the seller privately. And the result was the same bashing and accusations here in public. She doesn't respond to my emails anymore because she doesn't want to do what and GOOD breeder will do. I want what's in Emma's best interest... a good home where she'll be loved and be the only dog. But clearly, the responsibility lies on Jasmanea, not me.

I thought she said she would refund you the money and take Emma back. Is she saying she's not going to do that anymore? You all have to try and communicate without hurling accusations and namecalling at one another...maybe just try to keep the email and/or phone call conversation at when/where the money will be sent, how/when/where Emma will be transported/cared for.

PLEASE try to keep Emma in mind through all of this! I wish all of you the best of luck!

[Teiya]

Originally Posted by LuvmyYorkies2

I thought she said she would refund you the money and take Emma back. Is she saying she's not going to do that anymore? You all have to try and communicate without hurling accusations and namecalling at one another...maybe just try to keep the email and/or phone call conversation at when/where the money will be sent, how/when/where Emma will be transported/cared for.

PLEASE try to keep Emma in mind through all of this! I wish all of you the best of luck!

I emailed her this morning asking her one last time to please take Emma back and find her the right home and let's split the shipping costs so we're both at an equal loss with an equal lesson learned.

She's yet to respond. If she doesn't respond, I will file a suit for fraud against her. I won't be left with any other choice in the matter. This is just plain dishonest and more money than I'm willing to throw away.

[LuvmyYorkies2]

Originally Posted by Teiya

I emailed her this morning asking her one last time to please take Emma back and find her the right home and let's split the shipping costs so we're both at an equal loss with an equal lesson learned.

She's yet to respond. If she doesn't respond, I will file a suit for fraud against her. I won't be left with any other choice in the matter. This is just plain dishonest and more money than I'm willing to throw away.

Well what you said sounds reasonable and I don't see any reason for her not to respond. Let's hope she does.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by Teiya

I emailed her this morning asking her one last time to please take Emma back and find her the right home and let's split the shipping costs so we're both at an equal loss with an equal lesson learned.

She's yet to respond. If she doesn't respond, I will file a suit for fraud against her. I won't be left with any other choice in the matter. This is just plain dishonest and more money than I'm willing to throw away.

That is very reasonable. Is it possible that she just does not have the money to refund you right now? If that is the case then she should be honest and try to work out something.

[ldvpool7]

Wow...I really dont think it is the same Yorkie. I hope this can be a win win for both of you.

[Teiya]

Originally Posted by bjh

That is very reasonable. Is it possible that she just does not have the money to refund you right now? If that is the case then she should be honest and try to work out something.

I don't know. I guess it's possible. I'm a VERY reasonable person. I'm willing to work out a reasonable time line to expect a refund and I'm even willing to take the losses on the vet bills I've incurred and the return shipping for Emma, but I still want my initial purchase price back so I can purchase the RIGHT dog for me when one comes along.

She's attacked my integrity that's really upsetting for me. I spent 5 years active in westie rescue took a few years of a break and now I'm the rescue director for Wasatch Avian Education Society. My WHOLE life has been dedicated to helping animals in need but I'm just not set up to deal with the problems Emma is presenting in my home. If I didn't have small children and a tiny Yorkie, things might be different and I'd take her on. But I can't place any more at risk.

If Emma were MY responsibility, I never would have placed her in my home to begin with. As rescue director, I pride myself on placing the right parrot in the right home based on environment, situation, experience and the needs of the bird. As a breeder, I expect the same thing. After all, I don't get monetary compensation for what I do. She does. Therefore, she should take a little more interest in what she does. I feel the seller knew it wasn't a good fit and that's the reason she got combative when I initially contacted her and then again, here on the forum.

I'm at a loss. I don't know what to do here. But I do know that if I have to file charges for fraud, I'll be asking for way more than my initial purchase price. I want to thank everyone for the support and the links for Florida fraud. That's very helpful information and very kind of you.

[cpuff35]

Wow, I just read through most of this thread and I'm really sorry to hear that things are not working out with Emma. I hope the seller responds to you soon and that Emma will be able to find her forever home.

[roxies_mom]

I was looking at those pics back and forth and back and forth comparing. There is no way that is the same dog and not sure what some see that makes it the same. If you look closely below it's chest, in one you can see black hair on the lower part of the chest. In the first one it's golden all the way down to it's belly. I don't know about anyone elses yorkies but Roxie didn't darken as she got older, she lightened. Plus the nose has a bunch more black on the bridge and just looks a little longer in the snout.

[drabinowitz43]

I've just come across this thread and it poses several interesting issues. First, I am no expert except to the extent that I spend the greater part of my life lately staring at Yorkie pictures on here and, to me, that doesn't even come close to looking like the same dog. But whether it is or isn't, I just want the OP to know that bringing a lawsuit for fraud may feel morally right to you, but it will be a huge headache trying to bring someone from across the country into small claims court. I feel for you so much. Purchasing a pup on the internet is risky, but sometimes we don't have a lot of options. If you live near me, I have not found one Yorkie breeder anywhere near me. Pet stores are not an option. Even if you do get to meet the pup before you purchase, there is still so much risk involved. My breeder boasts on her website that she promises you will get a healthy, well socialized puppy. I spent almost $1,200 to get a pup with a liver shunt who, since being diagnosed last month, has already cost me between $4,000 and $5,0000 dollars in medical expenses and that's just the beginning. My breeder didn't give me a dime or an ounce of emotional support. Can I sue her for fraud? I doubt it. I don't want to hijack this very upsetting thread. Just want to tell you that I feel for you and understand how you feel betrayed by someone in this community. The upside to my situation is that I do have a wonderful dog that I love dearly and who fits in with my family. I just hope you don't get into a protracted legal mess that will cost a lot more than Emma. If the breeder ignores you and there is no hope for training, then maybe you should concentrate on finding her the best possible home. You will be out the money, but you will have the satisfaction of knowing you did the best thing for Emma and probably got her out of a situation where she wasn't wanted anyway. A breeder who cares about her Yorkie would never respond like this.

[Teiya]

Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

A breeder who cares about her Yorkie would never respond like this.

I'm starting to get the impression that she really doesn't care and is just glad to be rid of the dog. What a shame. She set this dog up for failure and then refused to take any accountability for doing so. I really hope no one else has to go through what I have here.

[cedarpointe]

I saw this dog on KSL.COM for sale right now search yorkie. (The little yorkie in the cage) She looks like the same dog

[Missiemiss]

I know your situation is very real to you and I don't want to minimize it at all.

I will say though - this situation hurts every REPUTABLE BREEDER. Yes, it does. People will remember if they are looking at a new breeder.

*walking away shaking head*

Best of luck in both of you to get this worked out in a fair manner to both. Please hug that little girl for me!