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06-11-2008, 04:57 AM | #106 |
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06-11-2008, 04:59 AM | #107 |
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| Bingo! That is why today I am still trying to grasp the same concepts regarding these dogs as I was 2 1/2 years ago! Most of the time I just don't ask questions or comment at all for fear of how it's going to be perceived. (point in case, this thread) Like I said, God have mercy on the person who ever actually wanted to learn about Biewers. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 06-11-2008 at 05:00 AM. |
06-11-2008, 05:00 AM | #108 | |
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Yes, there are definitely some passionate people who care deeply about these dogs, but I guess we really wouldn't want it any other way. There has been some good information that has come through though and eventually all of these differences will be worked out. In the end, we all love this breed, and want to introduce healthy, happy dogs to people who are intrested in learning more about them. -Diana
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06-11-2008, 05:01 AM | #109 |
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06-11-2008, 05:04 AM | #110 | ||
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i've had parker for over a year and i was researching the breed about a year before i got him.. i do the same thing.. i read almost everything but never post or comment b/c i don't want to get attacked.. so i just keep my thoughts to myself! Quote:
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06-11-2008, 05:07 AM | #111 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | Kelz...there are several biewer breeders on this forum AND this thread...perhaps you could pm them with questions on Parker. I have always found them very willing to share their knowledge.
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06-11-2008, 05:18 AM | #112 |
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| I guess there's just no easy answers.. just lot's of questions and ton's of information to sift through. You need to make some decisions that you feel comfortable with. There are some people that you may feel more closly represent the way you feel and think than others and their ideas more closely follow yours.. well, then that's the club or group you tend to more closely associate with. That's the great part about having different clubs with different ideas. So, actually, this is all a good thing. Different ideas are always good, I guess we just need to work harder on listening and accepting others points of view and not thinking ours is the only way. -Diana
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06-11-2008, 05:32 AM | #113 | |
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Yorkshire Terrier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I am really appreciative of the conversation taking the direction it has taken. People offering their viewpoints in a constructive manner, without insult or accusations. I am enjoying reading this thread. It really is up in the air, in my opinion, how or what or if anything was introduced into the original Friedheck lines to produce the piebald color variation, and if so how was the color pattern bred in? If the Maltese was in fact in the history of the Yorkshire, is it possible that this is where the white comes from? and why it is in the Parti-Yorkie too? How were the 3 distinct colors and placement that you see in the Biewers (the ones holding to the original standard) bred in? Why does this not happen in the Partis? All just questions I ponder This is just personal opinion, but having a Biewer and a Yorkie and a Maltese, if I believed anything was crossed into the Yorkshire line, I would believe it was Maltese. JMO I do believe I have a Biewer Yorkshire A La Pom Pon, and that they are, at this point, purebred. Again, just offering MPO
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06-11-2008, 06:42 AM | #114 |
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| Living dustmop, Your club has been involved with research on the piebald gene for a couple of years, what are you learning from that and who are you working with. We are trying to set up a coat color program now and would like to know who might best fit our plans. Bama fan, No all the dogs don't test the same. |
06-11-2008, 07:01 AM | #115 |
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| Thanks for the reply. So I guess that leads me to other questions: If a test reveals that the dogs tested have had various other breeds introduced somewhere in the past, and the results are not the same then how could they be deemed a 'breed' of their own as they currently are? Wouldn't they all have to be yielding the same results? Would that be the next step to gaining recognition? Does the amount of time since the introduction of the outside breed play a role? (Assuming that is was so far back it can't be pinpointed and not dinstinguished by any test.) Last edited by BamaFan121s; 06-11-2008 at 07:03 AM. |
06-11-2008, 07:53 AM | #116 |
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| In order to understand what the tests indicate you need to look at the entire picture and the relation of where the Biewer is on the charts. The BTCA held a seminar where much of this was explained. Being that, if pedigrees hold true, all of the Biewers are related so they should all fall within the test results. This is too complicated to try and explain on a forum. There is more information on the BTCA web site and also there will be a CD soon with the seminar presentation which might better explain what the results revealed. |
06-11-2008, 09:00 AM | #117 |
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| I'm really looking forward to the release of the CD. Please let us know when it is available for purchase. I'm sure there will be alot of great information on there for all of us. Thanks Diana
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06-11-2008, 01:58 PM | #118 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | The seminar was excellent. The DVD will be of interest to the breeders and owners of the Biewers as well as to those contemplating getting one. It is clear scientific evidence over and beyond the MARS test. |
06-11-2008, 03:03 PM | #119 | |
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06-11-2008, 04:17 PM | #120 |
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| Getting back to the question........ I have Biewer Yorkshire a la Pom-pon . When asked what Buffy is, I say she is a Biewer Yorkie. Then When they say ...HuH Whats that? I reply that she is a German Bred Yorkie. I must say I feel a little silly saying the a la Pom- pon (It makes me think of a poodle) so although I have the upmost respect for Mr. Biewer if that part of the name was dropped off it wouldn't hurt my feelings. With that being said I also believe that she is a terrier. AND although she is a great companion dog she is definitely a terrier. Loves chasing vermin and was completely one mined about it when she entered the deepest mud puddle in the yard , belly deep and only nose and top knot showing.......and decided that there definitely was vermin or........maybe one of stacey invisible lizards....In that there puddle .... I had to pull her out myself growling and barking at that there puddle. So yes she is a hunter, Loves tunnels, and of course loves her people. I would like to thank posters for not getting this thread locked before I could post. |
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