Do you approve of different colored yorkies?

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by lulababy

i like the look of the partis, biewers and the chocolate ones. i think you can register them akc though even though they arent the standard.. i also have a black/tan yorkie and I think shes beautiful.

Biewers can not be registered AKC.

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by lulababy

i like the look of the partis, biewers and the chocolate ones. i think you can register them akc though even though they arent the standard.. i also have a black/tan yorkie and I think shes beautiful.

You are right, an off colored yorkie born from 2 AKC registered parents, can be registered with AKC. I too love all the colors and have 2 black and tan yorkies (and 2 parti colored yorkies) myself.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

I guess I'll have to find some new illustrations to post to keep you happy (Big Wink). It is an illustration by a well known artist who was contracted to draw his pictures per the context of the book (dog sport and field trials, IIR). It was drawn just prior the time period when the yorkshire breed had officially become a breed and I think it gives one an idea of how different types of different dogs, ran freely together. Since they did not spay or neuter back in those days, well, I think you can see the picture I'm trying to paint.

The maltese color is the extreme expression of the spotting genes - basically they're just one big spot - and we are now seeing parti yorkies that are being born solid white in color like the Maltese. Maybe the parti gene has been produced in the Silky Terriers bloodlines ... I haven't researched that one yet!

I expect you to get on it then!LOL I would be interested to see if there are any parti silkies out there!!LOL

[lulababy]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Biewers can not be registered AKC.

thats odd, especially since partis can (i know i know they arent "the same")

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by lulababy

thats odd, especially since partis can (i know i know they arent "the same")

Biewers originated in Germany. AKC is an American registry...not German. Biewers have only been imported here since 2003.

[lulababy]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Biewers originated in Germany. AKC is an American registry...not German. Biewers have only been imported here since 2003.

oh ok

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by lulababy

thats odd, especially since partis can (i know i know they arent "the same")

Biewers and Parti are vastly different, and Biewer breeder are actually trying to breed to a "standard." Parti's are not listed in a special category in the AKC, but simply as Yorkshire Terriers. There is no standard for a Parti.

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Biewers and Parti are vastly different, and Biewer breeder are actually trying to breed to a "standard." Parti's are not listed in a special category in the AKC, but simply as Yorkshire Terriers. There is no standard for a Parti.

Biewers and partis came about the same way, from recessive genes in traditional colored Yorkshire terriers. The difference being that the German Tri colored yorkshire terriers were denied registration through the German registry unlike the american tri colored parti yorkies who are now allowed to be registered with AKC. As a result, instead of culling the the german tri colored yorkies (Biewers), they formed their own club with breed standards. There are a number of Biewer clubs, some with stricter standards than others.

[teffiemoore]

Originally Posted by AmourYorkies

I just want to know people's opinion on breeding different colored yorkies that aren't the AKC standard such as gold or chocolate.

I too am a stickler to the colors listed as standard! There is a reason for the standard, its boundaries to maintain what a Yorkies should look like..I feel like (and everyone is human..the ole give an inch and a mile is taken) if different colors are accepted, then different coats, eyes, ears, snouts, tail sets, you name it will be the next to want change in...then we will end up with and "anything goes" look for these little guys!!! There is already so much variation. I have so many ppl tell me, "well so and so has a Yorkie but, it doesn't look like yours", I hear this so much and I'll ask, well how is theirs different...and its either, "well the one I saw has a long skinny snout and longer legs", or ,"theirs is all black except for the head", or"theirs has curly hair and alot bigger ears"....I love all dogs and would have a herd of them here, whether they are Yorkie or not, but I like the look of what is standard!!!! There needs to be boundaries on them

[SMApup]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

Welcome Trevor!!! Sure hope you stick around and join in on some of our "colorful" discussions (which I'm sure we'll see here shortly).

I learned about genetics from raising colorful Morgan horses - perlino, cremello, palomino, buckskin and dun. I now have a few golden Miniatures in addition to my parti colored yorkies.

Thank you... I used to own a cremello quarter horse. I had intended on breeding her but she was only registered as a foundation quarter horse. AQHA (American Quarter Horse Association) only accepted single dilutes in their registry at the time so had to be very selective if I wanted to do so.
It is only in the past 6-7 years I believe that AQHA has started to accept Cremellos and Perlinos in their full registry. This was done so after a whole lot of petitioning from owners who wanted to exhibit their beautiful examples of the breed. Yes, many people thought the same as people do with yorkies... the dilutions are markers for genetic flaws.
However, it all takes time. And no they did not change the rest of the standard to incorporate color... QH must still have a very specific body type.
There has been more research done on horse colors and their variants than any other animal in the world. There are some very good websites that explain the inheritance of color out there for them. It can be applied to any animal and make sense. The only thing that changes is the locus and minor phenotypical expression.

Here are a few sites I like:
Color Calculator (this one is my favorite)
Home Page
Equine Color - Horse & Pony Color Genetics Information

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by SMApup

Thank you... I used to own a cremello quarter horse. I had intended on breeding her but she was only registered as a foundation quarter horse. AQHA (American Quarter Horse Association) only accepted single dilutes in their registry at the time so had to be very selective if I wanted to do so.
It is only in the past 6-7 years I believe that AQHA has started to accept Cremellos and Perlinos in their full registry. This was done so after a whole lot of petitioning from owners who wanted to exhibit their beautiful examples of the breed. Yes, many people thought the same as people do with yorkies... the dilutions are markers for genetic flaws.
However, it all takes time. And no they did not change the rest of the standard to incorporate color... QH must still have a very specific body type.
There has been more research done on horse colors and their variants than any other animal in the world. There are some very good websites that explain the inheritance of color out there for them. It can be applied to any animal and make sense. The only thing that changes is the locus and minor phenotypical expression.

Here are a few sites I like:
Color Calculator (this one is my favorite)
Home Page
Equine Color - Horse & Pony Color Genetics Information

The Morgans had the same High white/blue eye rule that the AQHA had. This rule denied registration for horses with white above the knee or horses with blue eyes. Lucky for me, our rule was repealed in 1996, and 3 months later my mare gave birth to an apron blazed colt with stocking over the knee and belly spots ... I named him High White Revolution, aka. "Rebel" (evil grin). From that day on, I was hooked on color genetics!

At least one of my morgans are pictured on the equinecolor.com site you posted, her name is Neverland Tiger Lily, she's pictured under the birdcatcher spots section Equine Color - Horse & Pony Color Genetics Information

Yes there was a lot of ignorance about cremellos and perlinos in the morgan world ... in 1998 in an interview in the Horse Illustrated magazine about color, the director of the registry was quoted in the piece saying "by breeding 2 palominos together, you could produce a lethal white." Two overos bred together can produce a lethal white; palominos bred together may produce a cremello. Oh, my, that was an embarrassing moment for us Rainbow Morgan owners.

Again, glad you are here ... your genetic knowledge far exceeds mine!

[LeosMama]

I don't much about the colors but I know I love my Yorkie. He's tan and his black is turning silverish color. As long as he loves me back I don't care what the color.

[*sophie's mama*]

I don't mind the color as long as they are healthy and produce healthy pups.

[scrapindee]

Yes there is a difference between Parti's and Biewers. The Biewers have a specific standard that the breeders adhere to.

[jrincon17]

all yorkies all beautiful and i accept the owners of the dogs. the yorkies have no choice what color they are.