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In addition, I have to think that there is not as much criticism of the black coats being an off color because the exclusion of them is such a recent change. | |
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If there is a coordinated effort to have a standard set and recognized and eligible to show, then I am all for that. The problem is, the lack of movement to do that. What large scale, coordinated efforts are being made to set a standard, form a unique breed (or variation of breed) club? There are many people claiming they are trying to set a standard to justify breeding off colors. (And please realize that I don't mean this to imply EVERYONE who breeds off colors does this.) I guess that is my concern--kind of hard to put into words. | |
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That is where most people are confused. They wonder: How can these champion yorkies be carriers of this "awful" gene that results in these new colord offspring. | |
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| ![]() Well maybe you gals aren't...but I think the concern of many is that some of the people out just to produce dogs that may be a 'rare, trend' are breeding in something else. I know that it certainly would be grounds for me to question them. |
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As sue "pinehaven" has pointed out many times, the white does not come from the maltese because the maltese does not carry the spotting gene. I believe they mixed in the maltese to get the silky coat. At one time the maltese and the yorkshire Terrier were both shown in the same group as broken haired scottish terriers. So it stands to reason that they would have bred them together. There is a picture of Scotch Terriers by Edwin Landseer Titled "Ratcatchers" It cleasrly shows one Terrier wite with a black spot on the back. I could only find a thumbnail of this painting. I enlarged it but the quality is poor. ![]() | |
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Mine are all descendents of Ch. Rolls Royce Ashley, sire to the first AKC registered parti colored yorkie, Nikko's Mickey Spillane. | |
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| ![]() I understand your point but as I wrote, The Paisley Terrier weighing up to 16 LBS is alot different then some or most of our Yorkies today.... I see alot of women with teeny tiny Yorkies weighing only 3-4 LBS. I don't think thats what the original breeder had in mind...My point is.... you don't think multi-colored Yorkies would improve the breed but teeny 3# yorkies are ok. What would the difference be in the color or the weight??? The clysdale Terrier...This breed, originally exhibited as Skye Terriers, are simply the more silky-haired specimens of this variety. Skye Terrier enthusiasts have always regarded them as bad-coated specimens, more fitted for the drawing-room than the cairns, just as Fox Terrier experts would regard a soft-coated WireHaired as a bad Fox Terrier. The silky-coated dog, however, has his devotees, and along in the eighties a division was made in the Skye Terrier classes, the hard-coated, long and low variety being accorded, by weight of public opinion, the title of Skye Terrier, to which their character, working fitness, and tradition gave them an irresistible claim,, while the leggier and more silky-coated specimens were given the name of Clydesdale or Paisley Terriers. Since then the Clydesdale fanciers have developed the differences in the two dogs and by selection have cultivated the silkiness and lighter colors of the coat, which they have made a sine qua non of the variety. In all other essentials the character and conformation of the two varieties are practically one and the same. The coat of the Clydesdale should be long, straight, and silky; in both texture, color, and quality it should resemble that of the best Yorkshire Terriers, which has been largely used in its manufacture. The Clydesdale Terrier was a small, silk-coated dog with shades of blue and tan and weighing up to eighteen pounds. The Clydesdale was extinct by the end of World War I. The Paisley terrier was a small, silky-coated dog of various shades of blue and light blue, weighing up to sixteen pounds. One interesting aspect of this breed is that it once was considered it’s own breed until the clydesdale eventually merged with the paisley terrier to become a single breed. Kat |
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| ![]() Of course they are. Researching the breeder and pedigrees should always come as a general rule of thumb, regardless of breed. But when you have a dog that has a BIG difference in appearance or structure that varies form what is consdiered the 'norm', particularly when they are being marketed as 'rare' and for unusually high prices, I think that is grounds for increased concern and skepticism. |
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That's just it; they are being "marketed" as something unique, the YTCA forbids use of those words. I object to anyone breeding as a business, it should only be done to improve the breed, of you are interested in the profit factor of it, you will not be looking out for the long term affects on the breed. Many of us love the Yorkie just as it as, and want to preserve those qualities.
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