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Old 02-16-2007, 05:51 PM   #61
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I know personally speaking that I often use the same statement about my husband of many, many years, "I can't take him anymore". It's just venting my frustration about his many negative habits. He's still here and so am I and he'll never change.
I think Thor has a better chance of changing back to his old self once he gets over the hurdle of so many changes in his life. Dogs hate change and are creatures of habit.
I wish I could help. All I can suggest is making a schedule and sticking to it. I have a tough Yorkie that was misrepresented to me by his breeder plus 2 other dogs. I have had to protect them from him. I have worked on obediance with him and praise, praise, plus reward when he gets it right, not perfect but right. He's getting better and I let him play with the others with my supervising. I never thought we'd get where we are at now. If you can get Thor to do something to warrent praise and make a big deal over him, it's a start to building up his confidence, after so many changes he must feel so insecure and confused. He doesn't understand what you expect from him.
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I Bet You Are Sorry You Bothered To Write This Now Arnt You?

Try Not To Take It Too Personally, And Concentrate On All The Good Advice Given.

I Too Think You Should Try And Persevere At Least For A Week With The Crate, But Suggest A Blanket Over The Crate may Help Him Settle.

He Is Trying You Out And Testing His Luck, In The Hope That If He Causes A Big Fuss - He Will Win This Battle. I Understand He Has Been Through Some Changes, But Give It Time And He Will Settle In The End - It Is Whether You And Your Boyfriend Can Cope Until Then....

It Will Be Worth It In The End - Because I Believe You Need Your Own Time Apart With Your Boyfriend.

Good Luck - Thinking Of You......
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Old 02-16-2007, 06:04 PM   #63
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My goodness! I just got home from work and what in the world happened to this thread?! How sad that we treat each other this way. When I read some of these posts, it makes my heart sad. Stop and think about what you post and how it sounds to others before you hit that "submit reply" button.

As Moderator has said, many of us don't know Thors Mama, so withhold judgement until you do. I'm glad so many of you stepped up to defend and encourage her.

Hanna, take the support and dump the crud. And everyone else, if you believe, send up a prayer for Thor and Hanna that things will get easier real soon.
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Im sorry you are feeling bad about all this, But I do agree in some ways. You cant spoil a dog rotten then just up and change his whole world on him over night. Im not trying to be mean and I know it must be hard on you too. But Man what this little dog must be going thru with so many changes in his life. I dont see what or why it would hurt your BF for the little dog to sleep in your room. I mean even if he wakes up a few times a night atleast hes not barking and crying in his crate all night. If Having a BF has changed so much for you and your little dog then you need to set down and talk to him about it, And I dont understand jealous .....how can a man be jealous over a little dog? If the problem cant be fixed then Id think about rehoming Thor. He just wants what hes always had and thats his mommys attention.
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Hey Hannah! I know I don't personally know you very well on YT yet.. but I've read some of your posts and I really know that you love your pup so much. I too have been frustrated beyond belief with my dogs sometimes as well, and needed a place to vent. It doesn't change the love you have for your pup.

Is bringing the crate into the bedroom when you're not sleeping a possibility? Maybe if he gets some treats in his crate and can rest quitely or play while you're in there but it's not night time.. he'll start to adjust. Just keep at it girl, it WILL all work out and your pup and boyfriend will both be happy.

If you ever want to talk, feel free to pm me and good luck girl! Don't let some of the comments on here getcha down!

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Secret I can empathize!

I have gone through a similar scenario with my toy poodle

It used to be just me and her until I got married.........

She really got rebelious and 'upset' because mommy put a man in OUR bed



It took a few months before she got used to it. When we adopted our cat, same thing.........she was just too jealous but got over it soon. When Bobbi came along............she was appalled (goodness, not another canine ) but it didn't last long either........she LOVES her siblings too much now

I think it will be temporarily until Thor gets used to the changes............until then, best wishes to you
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I just don't know what to do with Thor anymore. My nerves are GONE. I am stressed to the MAX. I can barely breath normally because of the weight I've been caring around.

Last night I reinstated crate training at night. He used to be fine with his crate but now he hates it. Everyone said just let him whine, and do not attend to his whining behavior. Well did you know that dogs can whine/bark from 1.30 until 4.30???????? I've simply had it. Finally when he shut up whining, I thought he was dead, cause he was hyperventilating so much.

Thanks for hearing me out. I've had a really tough 3 weeks with and the move and all that.
I wanted to come back and post and point out a few things.
In your Post you said you can barely breath normally because of the weight you have been caring around.
This sounds like Anziety stress attacks. You should have that checked out.
Thor is probaly going thru the same thing. with his many changes and yours. He may think hes being punished by being crated, when he use to sleep with you. and he prob dont know whats going on and hes feeling the stress from you too and its bring anziety for him too.
Dogs unhappy about their surroundings may howl, bark,whine experience stress and be generally miserable. the stress experienced from the many changes may also raise his pulse and breathing rate and may even result in fear and anxiety.
You said that he was use to being around other pets, well im sure hes missing his play mates and has found himself very bored.
I hope you work this out soon for the both of your well being. Good Luck and try and relax and think about what poor Thur is going thru too.
Is it you or your BF that does not want Thor in the bed? If its him and not you that might be the problem that you are feeling so much stress. being pulled both ways. I just hope it works out for you both.
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Why don't you try and give him some Rescue Remedy at night to lower his anxiety level while he gets used to the crate? People often think that using some sort of anti-anxiety supplement or even medication is only covering symptoms, but I'm here to tell you it's not. My brother in law is a psychotherapist and recommends using an anti-depressant now and then (for his human patients) because it helps your brain burn new neurological pathways so that the anxiety is no longer the default mode for your brain whenever certain triggers pop up. So I say, use what's available until your furbaby stops stressing. There are a lot of stress triggers for your dog right now. And Yorkies are stubborn. They like things the way they like them.

In the book, "Don't Shoot The Dog" the author, a renown animal trainer and researcher, points out that in order to train any mammal, regardless of type, you must reward behavior that even comes close to the behavior you want to encourage. So when she trained llamas for instance to come to them, and llams being extremely leary of humans, she had to reward even one little step towards her, until the llamas were walking right up to her. And it is extremely important to do so immediately. So my suggestion would be to first reward your dog for even voluntarily going towards the crate, regardless of time of day. Then reward the dog for going up to the crate, then reward for going into the crate, then reward for staying in the crate, then reward for staying in the crate while you walk away (not stay away at first but just walk away and then come back), then reward for walking away and staying away 30 seconds, then reward for staying in the crate while you walk away and stay away for a few minutes, the reward for staying in the crate while you walk away and stay away for 5, then 10, then 15 minutes and so on.

It sounds tedious, but terriers are smart and they learn quickly, so it won't take you that long. You may be able to train your dog in a couple of days with this method.

And when you get to thinking it's too overwhelming, read "Don't Shoot The Dog". You'll find it very encouraging reading and her methods are simple but very effective.
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Hannah, I hope you can see that the majority of us are here for you. I gotta say, I'm very proud of Gypsy and Me, Simon & Hallie, Tink's mom, and OTHERS for the way they came to your defense.

IMO, this thread went down hill because of one person who hasn't even proven themselves here yet. Please don't let it get you down.

We've all been to that frustration level with our animals, at least I know I have. That does not mean we do not love them and are not taking care of them. Hang in there, ignore the bashing (please) and take note of all the great FRIENDS you have here!!!
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I hear ya about the noise. I really do. Our Tobey likes to bark. Even when there's not anything even possibly bothering him. We've got him used to the crate though. (We let our pomeranian sleep in there with him.)
If you have the space, maybe try moving him as far away from where you sleep as you can until he gets used to the crate. (Maybe try earplugs?) Also, turning on a radio or leaving the tv on for em helps sometimes.
Only advice I've got I'm sorry I'm not more help.
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I hope things get better for you soon.
(And...I know I'm new and don't know you, but I wouldn't worry about anybody that's puttin you down and actin all holier than thou. You've had a big change too, sounds like, not just your pup...and venting is healthy. Just try to find some "me time" for yourself. An extra long hot shower and a warm chai works wonders for frazzled nerves. Be sure to take you some b vitamins along with a multivitamin too. The little boost from the b vitamins will help you feel better, 'cause I bet a lot of what you're feeling is lack of energy from lost sleep.)
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I know personally speaking that I often use the same statement about my husband of many, many years, "I can't take him anymore". It's just venting my frustration about his many negative habits. He's still here and so am I and he'll never change.
I think Thor has a better chance of changing back to his old self once he gets over the hurdle of so many changes in his life. Dogs hate change and are creatures of habit.
I wish I could help. All I can suggest is making a schedule and sticking to it. I have a tough Yorkie that was misrepresented to me by his breeder plus 2 other dogs. I have had to protect them from him. I have worked on obediance with him and praise, praise, plus reward when he gets it right, not perfect but right. He's getting better and I let him play with the others with my supervising. I never thought we'd get where we are at now. If you can get Thor to do something to warrent praise and make a big deal over him, it's a start to building up his confidence, after so many changes he must feel so insecure and confused. He doesn't understand what you expect from him.
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Hi Hannah,

I am sorry I don't know much about crate training (we are just trying this ourselves!) but there is something you said in one of your posts that struck me...you mentioned that your boyfriend is jealous of the time you spend with Thor?
If you don't mind this suggestion, maybe find something you and your bf can do together with Thor? Maybe plan a day out to go shopping for new toys for Thor (we did this with Maddie when we first got her....took her shopping and let her pick her own toy...maybe that will help Thor with his own stress too?) Then maybe have one evening a week when you put Thor in his crate for a short amount of time and do something with your bf...like rent a movie and during the movie Thor has to be crated so your bf has you all to himself?

I don't know if these will help, but I think a good deal of the stress maybe lies in with the jealousy between bf and thor...if the bf is jealous of thor then it is very possible the Thor is jealous too. Keep your chin up sweetie, things will work out!

Oh and does Thor maybe have a favorite toy or blanket that you can put in the crate with him? And during that movie, make sure Thor and his crate are in a completely different room! Shoot it could be a nice dinner at home instead of a movie, but make it all about your BF and not Thor...that might help ease the jealousy.

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Hi Hannah,

You may want to try and put a shirt of yours in his crate with him at night so he can smell you. You can also put a small heat pack (they have them at the Petsmart) it is a little rice bag inside of a cute little stuffed dog. You just have to be VERY careful to make sure it isn't too hot. Also maybe the aromatherapy spray? I haven't used the spray but it may be worth a shot. GOOD LUCK to you!!
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im sorry but i remember those days when i just got tyler he use to be just like that its hard and frustrating but try putting a blanket over his cage and move him in another room far from you that worked for me
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