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Old 03-15-2006, 10:48 AM   #91
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....you just have to look at it like training a HUMAN BABY.....and HUMANS take up to 3 YEARS to train.....
I never thought of it like that... but is sooooo true
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:33 AM   #92
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My toby seems like he did well, but he had his accidents. He's finally got the idea that going around in circles catches my attention and I head to the door quickly while I get excited while saying let's go potty. My new baby, Lexi, is only 10 weeks but I swear she's been better about heading to her paper. She has accidents, but she hits the paper more often than not. I think just watching and seeing her signs (dropping the chew toy, not interested in playing with big bubba and then running with her nose to the ground). I was running and picking her up and putting her in her enclosed pen where the paper is all the time and saying to her to go potty. Now, she tends to head that direction herself. Her mommy just has to remember to keep the gate open for her. I tend to just scold her a little and say "paper" lexi, but I'm also saying with in a calm, low voice so she focuses on me. I just have to laugh at her because she just knows she missed. I think the key is just praise, praise and praise when they do go on it. I'm waiting for the nice weather and finishing all her shots, but she wants to go outside with big bubba now. Make a big deal and love on them when they get on or close - especially if they attempted to find a spot on the paper. I keep the paper in a larger corner all the time, so she knows where it is. Keep calm and have a glass of tea to calm your nerves. I did almost the same thing with three kids and two dogs. They pick up on your nerves but react real well to excited praise.
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:25 PM   #93
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put him on the pad and repeated pee pee about 50 times but still he wont pee,
Hi, Right now I am reading a book about positive training methods. It is very helpful in teaching the correct time to associate a word (like pee pee or sit or down) to the dog's actions. What you are doing right now by saying pee pee while he is standing on the pad looking at you, is to teach him to stand on the pad and look at you when you say pee pee. What you need to do is to have some treats handy for when he pees on the pad. As soon as he pees say pee pee and then give him a treat. Do this many many times before you actually tell him to go pee pee. When you do finally put him on the pad and say pee pee you want to be pretty sure that he knows what he is suppose to do. Otherwise you are reinforcing to him that pee pee means standing on the pad staring at you. I hope this was clear enough and helps out.
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...I kept him gated in the kitchen and went back after 10 min and put him on the pad and repeated pee pee about 50 times but still he wont pee...
from obedience class i've learned that you shouldn't keep repeating commands. dogs don't actually understand the word "pee pee". but if you place him on the pad and keep repeating "pee pee" about 50 times, he'll get the impression that you'd have to repeat "pee pee" about 50 times before you finish giving the command and he can go pee. ie, saying "pee pee" means nothing. saying "pee pee" 50 times means pee on the potty pad.

when i was teaching bunjee the "go potty" command, i'd place him on the potty pad and say "go potty" once. if he wanders off the pad, i'd place him back on the pad and say "go potty" again. and keep repeating placing him on the potty pad and saying "go potty" once. or if he says on the pad, i'll repeat the "go potty" command after a minute or so. when he's actually peeing, i'd repeat "go potty" while he's going and add "good potty" and other praises when he's done and ready for a wipe and his treat.
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:47 PM   #95
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I wonder how her day went today! Hopefully alot better than yesterday, for the puppy's sake! Poor thing!
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:12 PM   #96
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I noticed she stopped replying after things here on the thread got a little out of hand (so to speak). Kudo's to Kim for clearing out the icky notes.

I hope she does come back to let us know how things are going. If she took all the good advice she got here today and only used 1/3 of it, she should still be able to get her pup positively and properly trained.

Come back and tell us! We are always curious to see how things turn out!
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Well I would like first of all to thank all of you who gave directions and good advice and to let the others ( who judged me ) that when i said i spanked him, I didn't mean I tortured him, it was just a little spank on his bum, but i agree i should not have yelled at him and by the way im not willing to sell my puppy or give him to a loving home . He has all the love he needs .
As for today he did well pee and poo on the pad andhe got treats like cheerios and cottage cheese and peanut butter, so far just one accident that i completely ignored . So thanks again for the advice and rest assured he is not a " poor puppy " instead he is a lucky puppy who gets the best vet, groomer and toys and lots of playtime . when i said i will keep him gated in the kitchen all day long it was just anger i cant stand to let him gated when im home for more than 5 min .
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Im glad to hear that he did better today and I hope that he continues to do so! Good luck!
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That's wonderful! Great to hear Thanks for the update!
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Thats good news, but little spank or big, my sister hit Spike all the time and now he is a nervy quaky dog.
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i'm so glad to hear that hes doing better. keep up the training!
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So happy to hear that today was better! Keep up the good work! I keep thinking "one step forward,two back" with my pup,until eventually it was the other way around!
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Myriamha, I am so happy to read your note! By the way you write, I just know that you are intelligent and thoughtful, and perfectly capable of potty training your pup in a positive and patient manner.

I hope you understand that there are a few thousand people who frequent this board, and when you have such a big mix of humans, you are bound to have a huge mix of opinions. Most people on here would never consider hitting a pup. Some of those folks had a little difficulty keeping their reactive anger in check, and unfortunately, your post got them stirred to the boiling point. The way they felt was probably pretty close to how you felt that day you smacked your pup. They smacked you in with the written word.

The power of positive training has been successfully proven over and over. I know that you are now on the right track, and will be able to accomplish your goal while keeping your pup AND you happy and healthy. All the best to you, Myriamha, and I congratulate you for having the courage to post your note in the first place, and ask for help. You got the help you needed, and that's the important part.

Hugs to you and your puppy!
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myriamha ...It's great that you came on and posted....I posted to you and want to tell you - I personally wasn't at a boiling point or anything...but WAS upset anyone could hit a puppy...Hopefully you'll see those responses for what they were.....comments & help from people who really love dogs.....

as you said....you didn't torture him... but with very small young puppies....It really can hurt them and I think after you read all the posts - you probably do know this.

You were honest in your thread and I really hope you have better luck training him...it really can take up to a year or more with some of them....and good luck to you. When you get frustrated....just remember....he WANTS to please you

being so young ...it can take a while before his body responses to catch up...but most all yorkies can be trained...some just take longer than others.
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Well i love my dog to death he goes to the best vet, the best groomer, i spend a fortune on toys, its just that i lost it today .



I'm glad you are open about your feelings etc... i can understand you get upset about this issue, but like everyone else said "patients" is the key! My Chanel turned 1 year this past monday and she still has accidents, i dont have carpets, but expensive wooden floors throughout my house, she has peed on them and im sure she will continue to do so from time to time, as i ignored the accidents on my cheap tile flooring in my other house, i ignore her accidents on these wooden floors and praise her everytime she gets it right. Its SO much nicer for them and us to praise instead of punish them. They DONT understand "punishment" - your baby wants to please and love you Just hang in there and take a deep breath next time he makes a mistake

Never lose your temper on your pet, you WILL regret it!!

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